Breightmet Boy Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 22 minutes ago, dazl1212 said: My thoughts exactly. I'm no fan of Ken since he said he doesn't give a fuck what happens to the club but unless we get bought out I don't see any alternative. Do you think he said it? Even if he did he was not being threatened by Vegan Vance and not getting his own two-penneth in. If he makes a success of us he sells for over £25m, if he doesnt he gets £5m. I personally dont always believe the 1st person that opens their mouths and im quite happy with KA's version of things. Doesnt mean im happy how behind the scenes are, but thats not my worry anyhow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger_Dubuis Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 29 minutes ago, Ani said: Lets say there will 12,000 Bolton fans at the game be good to know how many they are expecting to join the protest. Just hope they remember not joining the protest does not mean you love Ken. True, this protest is too tame to achieve anything A personal visit to Ken's home when he isn't expecting it with like- minded others would be more to my taste When Rio Ferdinand received a similar home visit from several fans for discussions about his failed urine test he began to show more respect to Manchester United. Im not suggesting violence just a "good chat" about the values expected at the football club Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazl1212 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 8 minutes ago, Breightmet Boy said: Do you think he said it? Even if he did he was not being threatened by Vegan Vance and not getting his own two-penneth in. If he makes a success of us he sells for over £25m, if he doesnt he gets £5m. I personally dont always believe the 1st person that opens their mouths and im quite happy with KA's version of things. Doesnt mean im happy how behind the scenes are, but thats not my worry anyhow. I suspect he did, but he may have his reasons aside from not caring. Maybe he was calling his bluff? Either way I hope he's successful as if he is its good for the club. The behind the scenes stuff is important as it must have an impact on the performances is the pitch. Plus we need reinforcements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 I'm not convinced it was said how Dale reports it. I mean, Dale hasn't got an agenda here, has he? it was probably an off the cuff bravado outburst. We've all said things we don't actually mean if it gets to piss someone off we're arguing with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted January 10, 2019 Moderators Share Posted January 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Traf said: Who is Chris Mann? manny from the old forum days not manning/kane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 10, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted January 10, 2019 1 hour ago, MickyD said: https://www.burndenaces.co.uk/2019/01/10/a-note-to-bolton-supporters-a-call-to-action.html Good grief! Not for me that. Rather folk turned their backs for a minute or some such. Each to their own I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breightmet Boy Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 18 minutes ago, Traf said: I'm not convinced it was said how Dale reports it. I mean, Dale hasn't got an agenda here, has he? it was probably an off the cuff bravado outburst. We've all said things we don't actually mean if it gets Dale wanted cash early, KA said 'no its no what we agreed', Dale spat the dummy out and recalled HIS player. KA didnt send him back, they told their employee to return. Bollocks to them and their chairman i say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalcolmW Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Traf said: I'm not convinced it was said how Dale reports it. I mean, Dale hasn't got an agenda here, has he? it was probably an off the cuff bravado outburst. We've all said things we don't actually mean if it gets to piss someone off we're arguing with. If BWFC goes out of existence then there is an extra promotion spot from both Leagues One and Two. This increases FGR's chances of getting an automatic promotion place (and also increases their chances of a play-off place). Edited January 10, 2019 by MalcolmW g&p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 10, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted January 10, 2019 1 hour ago, dazl1212 said: So Anderson thinks "fuck you" and walks, then what? I've wondered that, and frankly don't know. As owner, he'd still have responsibility, whether he wanted it or not. Presumably, club employees would continue to do their jobs; just don't know how financial issues are undertaken- does Ken authorise payments personally, or does he just tell whoever not to pay a bill when it suits him to delay it? There is no board as such, so fuck knows to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: I've wondered that, and frankly don't know. As owner, he'd still have responsibility, whether he wanted it or not. Presumably, club employees would continue to do their jobs; just don't know how financial issues are undertaken- does Ken authorise payments personally, or does he just tell whoever not to pay a bill when it suits him to delay it? There is no board as such, so fuck knows to be honest. If no one bought the business and it couldn’t pay its creditors wouldnt it go into liquidation? That’s if money to run it in admin wasn’t forthcoming. Edited January 10, 2019 by Mounts Kipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted January 10, 2019 Moderators Share Posted January 10, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: I've wondered that, and frankly don't know. As owner, he'd still have responsibility, whether he wanted it or not. Presumably, club employees would continue to do their jobs; just don't know how financial issues are undertaken- does Ken authorise payments personally, or does he just tell whoever not to pay a bill when it suits him to delay it? There is no board as such, so fuck knows to be honest. to walk away, either he or a creditor puts it into admin ken has no further influence but he could look to buy it back our biggest immediate issue is that the cash will soon run out so without somebody to take up the slack, we go bust Edited January 10, 2019 by Casino Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 10, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted January 10, 2019 15 minutes ago, Casino said: to walk away, either he or a creditor puts it into admin ken has no further influence but he could look to buy it back our biggest immediate issue is that the cash will soon run out so without somebody to take up the slack, we go bust Yes I can see that- a formal leaving. I wasn't sure the question was as if ken just upped sticks and pissed off back to Switzerland without doing anything formally. A sort of 'ah bollocks to it all' attitude. Not that I think he would, just what I read the question as. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiley Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Breightmet Boy said: Dale wanted cash early, KA said 'no its no what we agreed', Dale spat the dummy out and recalled HIS player. KA didnt send him back, they told their employee to return. Bollocks to them and their chairman i say. However, if Dale was paying Doidge's wages because SK couldn't afford to - he was probably getting a bit suspicious/nervous/concerned about not receiving the initial £250K payment from Bolton. Guess we don't know the truth in this. Has Dale responded about asking for the money earlier than first agreed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombwfc Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 10 minutes ago, Smiley said: However, if Dale was paying Doidge's wages because SK couldn't afford to - he was probably getting a bit suspicious/nervous/concerned about not receiving the initial £250K payment from Bolton. Guess we don't know the truth in this. Has Dale responded about asking for the money earlier than first agreed? I don't think he has responded to Ken since, but on Monday he said that (after we'd failed to pay on time) he and Ken initially reached a different agreement to 'accommodate' us, before Ken called back to say that was off too. It's quite possible that the new agreement would've involved pushing the initial payment back, but bringing others forward. Which would be helping us out with our short-term cash flow issues, or using the situation to squeeze more money out of us quicker, depending on whether you are Dale or Ken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breightmet Boy Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 9 minutes ago, Smiley said: However, if Dale was paying Doidge's wages because SK couldn't afford to - he was probably getting a bit suspicious/nervous/concerned about not receiving the initial £250K payment from Bolton. Guess we don't know the truth in this. Has Dale responded about asking for the money earlier than first agreed? Not as i know, i reckon theyll both keep stump now until any court case. KA said Dale wanted the August payment early, which wasnt agreed, i doubt we'll hear anything for a bit about this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sluffy Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 3 hours ago, Kane57 said: Yeah ok but I'm not speaking on their behalf, perhaps that's a better way of describing it ??? But you are though - why else is your name prominent on the call for the fan protest march and walk out from (let's be honest) the only proper site involved (the rest are more or less one man band efforts - including Burnden Aces) calling for the protest? You put your name to the initial 'protest call' as well! Surely you are either involved 'officially' and that's why your name is there, or not and presumably your name should not be being shown - which if so makes one wonder how many other names are 'fake' also? A call to action We have an update to Monday's statement By Will H Jones, Chris Manning, eddieskelly, Matt_Wood34, Alastair Sledge, TJenkins14, Ian_Rosbottom, Dave_C_, Liam O'Meara, Nicbarnes, Jarvisan, robilaz, AdamK21, and moss-j Jan 10, 2019, 9:00am GMT https://lionofviennasuite.sbnation.com/2019/1/10/18176021/a-call-to-action A joint statement from the Bolton Wanderers blogs The time has come to make our voices known By eddieskelly, Will H Jones, Jarvisan, TJenkins14, Chris Manning, Liam O'Meara, AdamK21, RCJ_97, robilaz, Ian_Rosbottom, Dave_C_, Matt_Wood34, moss-j, Nicbarnes, and Alastair Sledge Jan 7, 2019, 9:00am GMT https://lionofviennasuite.sbnation.com/2019/1/7/18171140/a-joint-statement-from-the-bolton-wanderers-blogs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolton va va Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Two things I don't get at the moment......are we not under some transfer embargo so couldn't buy Doidge anyway ? ....& surely we wouldn't be paying for him until we got our EFL money in a week or two anyway ? Either way, Swampy can go & fuck himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kane57 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 I'd quote you Sluffy but there's too much there. I support it yeah but I'm not speaking for that website or any website. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazl1212 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 2 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: I've wondered that, and frankly don't know. As owner, he'd still have responsibility, whether he wanted it or not. Presumably, club employees would continue to do their jobs; just don't know how financial issues are undertaken- does Ken authorise payments personally, or does he just tell whoever not to pay a bill when it suits him to delay it? There is no board as such, so fuck knows to be honest. Fair enough. I just would like an answer as to what people would replace him with, in a similar vein to the Parky out brigade, who do we replace him with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sluffy Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, Kane57 said: I'd quote you Sluffy but there's too much there. I support it yeah but I'm not speaking for that website or any website. You are shown as one of the authors so you must be speaking for the website. If you are not then your name should not be there. Presumably you will be asking for a printed apology from that site and your name being removed from both articles. Perhaps T-shirts could be printed on your behalf with a slogan of No Love LoV, perhaps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted January 10, 2019 Moderators Share Posted January 10, 2019 9 minutes ago, Kane57 said: I'd quote you Sluffy but there's too much there. I support it yeah but I'm not speaking for that website or any website. christopher, youre a bright lad if ken says fcuk it, without finding a buyer (which i doubt he will) how do you think it plays out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kane57 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Sluffy I won't be doing that because I have a life. As for how it'll pan out then I think we both know that he'll end up being alright but our future is just as murky. I don't see anyone queuing up to pick us up from the floor than another version of Ken. Suppose Bamber Bridge FC is only a couple of miles down the road from me otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 4 minutes ago, Casino said: christopher, youre a bright lad if ken says fcuk it, without finding a buyer (which i doubt he will) how do you think it plays out In the same way its going to play out if Ken doesn't find a buyer despite best efforts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted January 10, 2019 Moderators Share Posted January 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Kane57 said: As for how it'll pan out then I think we both know that he'll end up being alright but our future is just as murky. I don't see anyone queuing up to pick us up from the floor than another version of Ken. didnt mean kens future if nobody has a picture of the future (in their mind) why try to force him out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kane57 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 It's a fair point but I think for some, sitting back and doing nothing is worse than doing something even if nothing comes of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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