Take Over

[bwfcfan5]

58 minutes ago, Tombwfc said:

 

Sell it to somebody equally potless but without a track record of dishonesty and taking millions out of struggling football clubs?

As for the ST, I didn't sign up and still haven't because there was never a clear plan of what that money was going to be spent on. I think in the end a chunk of it was spunked on fancy leaflets (which you'd think would please Sluffy, but hey ho).

It still is a bit messy and without a clear purpose, but I'll never understand why it gets more shit on here than someone like Ken ever did. Even if all they do is pointless down-with-this-sort-of-thing meetings and statements, it's harmless and all being done by people who's hearts seem to be in the right place. 

Who? It’s easy to say ‘sell it to someone else’. Fact is nobody else was in. Basran had walked and his investors only wanted us in admin on the cheap.

[ErnestTurnip]

The ST could do with a figure head who isn't McGinlay, a proper plan, and some people who are happy giving their time and experience without having their names plastered all over the website etc but they're a tainted brand now for a lot of people so it's hard to see what the current set up could do - they're financially and influentially impotent and as a last resort they are pointless.

The idea is probably a good one but they've royally fucked it up and aren't fit for purpose.

Edited April 21, 2019 by ErnestTurnip

[Big E]

2 hours ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Who said I was happy with the trust? I am happy that they exist in case there is no other alternative, you got invite to meet the board you didn’t take that opportunity up, I had same opportunity and met them, said my piece and it was well received and taken on board. By the way the trust played a part in the successful game and event well attended by fans and raised money for charity, sponsored a number of players and paid money to get the fanzone back on, maybe if you engaged some of your ideas could be taken forward. Sadly it seems you are entrenched in your opinions and that’s a shame because you’ve plenty to offer. 

They got their player sponsorship for free from what I heard. To keep them sweet. 

Its nice they raised money for charity but was it much more than the 10k to put it on. There job is to be there for the club not run “charity” matches 

[Big E]

3 hours ago, Mounts Kipper said:

I don’t follow nightingale no idea what he’s said, but no doubt that’s his personal opinion is not necessarily all board members/ trust members view,   allansons business life is his business and if fans / trust members want him removed then they can vote for someone else.

See mounts this is what’s frustrating. You comment on us being entrenched then pretend you don’t know because you don’t “follow” them. They are crooks with a chequered history. He wasn’t an elected body he’s just another bum chum of the board. The whole thing stinks. I don’t know why it’s hard to accept

[Mounts Kipper]

2 hours ago, jules_darby said:

Lauded. Course he was. 

for the millionth time he was the only show in town. Don’t imagine anyone said don’t treat with caution.

He played some good moves and many bad. 

Fair to say everyone is glad he’s gone. Let’s see what happens next but it’s Like Anewman saying “we are shit and going down”; eventually it will become true....doesn’t mean that view was right at every point in time

come on Mounts, stop being a teenager 

 

 

FFS he was lauded even named as king ken on here, for the record I was happy he did take us over and did attempt to sort out some of the issues at least for 2 years.

It was clear to any sensible and right thinking fan that until we saw his end game then we should all reserve judgement.  Sense and right thinking left many on here when the ST questioned Ken and tried to hold him to account (seems they were right given the rumours debt has increased above and beyond) shame really but that’s how it is and still some fans can’t accept that and aren't prepared to move on. 

Edited April 20, 2019 by Mounts Kipper

[Tombwfc]

49 minutes ago, Casino said:

Sounds simple

Wonder why eddie sold to dodgy dean and dodgy Ken sold to dodgy bassini?

 

I've no idea why Ken sold to Bassini and not Basran or Gaspard. Better lines in bullshit, being two peas from the same pod.

https://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/sport/10073568.company-of-former-watford-owner-laurence-bassini-owes-hornets-parent-company-15m-but-club-accept-possibility-of-non-payment/

Whatever it is, the answer isn't 'because he has £30m he wants to spend on us'.

 

[Casino]

And he's still the only one

Unless there's a whole queue of billionaires being refused as the mistrust would have us believe

[Tombwfc]

1 hour ago, Ani said:

Everything they do is pompous and condescending.

There are people on here who have followed the club for years and a few who may well have offered to help/support but there has been no approach. Add to that their reaction to any challenge and question you should understand the reaction. 

They slag the club off for not being open and communicating then do exactly the same themselves. 

 

I don't disagree. A while back there was a bloke from the ST on here, and generally the interactions were a positive from what I remember.

They absolutely should have someone who comes on here and other Bolton forums, and be more communicative with what their aims are. 

So they're far from perfect, but let's be honest, the reason they've got the amount of stick they have on here is the same reason Iles, Vince, Moxey, Amos, McGinlay, Bonnar, LOV etc. all have.

I'd like to think now he's out of the way things can be less divisive, but probably not if we do end up with Ken in a red hat.

[Tombwfc]

1 minute ago, Casino said:

And he's still the only one

Unless there's a whole queue of billionaires being refused as the mistrust would have us believe

 

Did the Basran & Gaspard bids not want to buy the club?

[stevieb]

28 minutes ago, Tombwfc said:

 

Did the Basran & Gaspard bids not want to buy the club?

Not once they did due diligence and realised the amount of debt. 

Bassini hasn't done due diligence he says. 

[birch-chorley]

Has the Williams / Richards rejection been confirmed? 

Big blow to Bassini’s credibility if so 

 

[MancWanderer]

1 hour ago, ErnestTurnip said:

The ST could do with a figure head who isn't McGinlay, a proper plan, and some people who are happy giving their time and experience without having their names plastered all over the website etc but they're a tainted brand now for a lot of people so it's hard to see what the current set up could do - they're financially and influentially impotent and as a last resort they are pointless.

Been listening to that "The Wanderer" podcast. That Maggie Tetlow comes across as a really reasonable lady. Doesn't give it "the big 'un" and I listen to her hoping for something substantial. Anything to make me have faith in the trust. Genuinely, anything. She's committed, obviously has love for BWFC, is stressed to fuck with what's going on, but.....offers nothing. Nothing. Nada. Fuck all. The trust is a busted flush. I'm sure that there are people within there who care, are committed, and want the best, but, much as I've tried, I cannot see what they actually offer

I won't be nasty about them, as I'm sure that, as I've said, some of them have their hearts in the right place, but other than "seeming to be doing something" they offer nowt imo

[Sweep]

4 hours ago, Tombwfc said:

 

Did the Basran & Gaspard bids not want to buy the club?

Clearly not....

[bwfcfan5]

11 hours ago, Tombwfc said:

 

Did the Basran & Gaspard bids not want to buy the club?

If they’d wanted to they’d have done it. It’s one thing to say you are interested another to actually do it when you see the level of debt. We may still find out that this is a problem for Bassini.

But let’s be serious. Nobody was queuing up to buy us. The Trust’s fantasy bullshit is worthless in the real world. 

[Chris Custodiet]

11 hours ago, MancWanderer said:

Been listening to that "The Wanderer" podcast. That Maggie Tetlow comes across as a really reasonable lady. Doesn't give it "the big 'un" and I listen to her hoping for something substantial. Anything to make me have faith in the trust. Genuinely, anything. She's committed, obviously has love for BWFC, is stressed to fuck with what's going on, but.....offers nothing. Nothing. Nada. Fuck all. The trust is a busted flush. I'm sure that there are people within there who care, are committed, and want the best, but, much as I've tried, I cannot see what they actually offer

I won't be nasty about them, as I'm sure that, as I've said, some of them have their hearts in the right place, but other than "seeming to be doing something" they offer nowt imo

On the contrary the Trust does have something to offer. Its most consistent offering to date has been an insipid concoction of thoughtless assertions and unproven propaganda poured out for the benefit of Beeno readers and the easily led.

Anyone come up with any ideas about the mystery of the missing million yet?

Maybe John Galt will tell us what he thinks about Mr Rigby's, so far unattested, claim that Holdsworth spent nearly  a million quid on fees in confident anticipation of Eddie Davies giving him and his erstwhile mates the Burnden Leisure Group for nowt.

Or maybe someone would like to ask Mr Rigby what evidence he relied on last Monday.

[Wanderlust]

50 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said:

 

But let’s be serious. Nobody was queuing up to buy us. 

So you give no credibility to the idea that of the dozen or so foreign consortia and billionaires that according to the media and occasionally Anderson himself had enquired about buying the club over the last 18 months, all were just "tyre-kickers"  and/or" unable to  provide evidence of funds" - and not in reality unwilling to deal with Anderson/meet Anderson's ridiculous personal demands?

I find it more credible that Bassini was the only one who was prepared to overlook Anderson's "economy with the truth", negotiation "style" and demands for a personal payout despite what he has done to the club's finances. 

Each to their own opinion but as things stand, nobody knows what has really gone on behind the scenes as regards potential new owners and their approaches to buy the club, and they won't be queuing up to tell us seeing that Anderson hands out NDA's like sweeties, but there is certainly no evidence in the public domain yet that "nobody else was queuing up to buy us".

 

Edited April 21, 2019 by Hoppy510

[bwfcfan5]

53 minutes ago, Hoppy510 said:

So you give no credibility to the idea that of the dozen or so foreign consortia and billionaires that according to the media and occasionally Anderson himself had enquired about buying the club over the last 18 months, all were just "tyre-kickers"  and/or" unable to  provide evidence of funds" - and not in reality unwilling to deal with Anderson/meet Anderson's ridiculous personal demands?

I find it more credible that Bassini was the only one who was prepared to overlook Anderson's "economy with the truth", negotiation "style" and demands for a personal payout despite what he has done to the club's finances. 

Each to their own opinion but as things stand, nobody knows what has really gone on behind the scenes as regards potential new owners and their approaches to buy the club, and they won't be queuing up to tell us seeing that Anderson hands out NDA's like sweeties, but there is certainly no evidence in the public domain yet that "nobody else was queuing up to buy us".

 

Anderson sold his shares for under half a million in the end. What personal demands were these?

Basran agreed terms with KA then pulled out during due diligence as the debt level emerged.

[jules_darby]

1 hour ago, Hoppy510 said:

So you give no credibility to the idea that of the dozen or so foreign consortia and billionaires that according to the media and occasionally Anderson himself had enquired about buying the club over the last 18 months, all were just "tyre-kickers"  and/or" unable to  provide evidence of funds" - and not in reality unwilling to deal with Anderson/meet Anderson's ridiculous personal demands?

I find it more credible that Bassini was the only one who was prepared to overlook Anderson's "economy with the truth", negotiation "style" and demands for a personal payout despite what he has done to the club's finances. 

Each to their own opinion but as things stand, nobody knows what has really gone on behind the scenes as regards potential new owners and their approaches to buy the club, and they won't be queuing up to tell us seeing that Anderson hands out NDA's like sweeties, but there is certainly no evidence in the public domain yet that "nobody else was queuing up to buy us".

 

Why would anyone sane queue up to buy us?

[Chris Custodiet]

15 hours ago, Casino said:

Do something about it?

Allanson wasn't elected

He was added cos he's mates with someone

If what he's done doesnt bring the trust into disrepute, it says a whole lot about them

 

And mounts, nightingale said,at the forum, from the front bench, we need to be rid of the likes of James and Warburton

He's either thick as fcuk or not fit for the role

Or both

[Wanderlust]

1 hour ago, bwfcfan5 said:

Anderson sold his shares for under half a million in the end. What personal demands were these?

No doubt by the end he'd take anything he can get, but that wasn't always the case was it?

Perhaps he should have cashed in with one of those tyre-kicking bankrupt billionaires as he likes to describe them?

[Tonge moor green jacket]

20 minutes ago, Hoppy510 said:

No doubt by the end he'd take anything he can get, but that wasn't always the case was it?

Perhaps he should have cashed in with one of those tyre-kicking bankrupt billionaires as he likes to describe them?

We also don't know how much he has sold them for, nor indeed, if a transaction has taken place. If he doesn't pass FPP, then he's not going to spend his money.

[Wanderlust]

Any idea when the decision will be made?

[Tonge moor green jacket]

8 minutes ago, Hoppy510 said:

Any idea when the decision will be made?

I reckon your guess is as good as anybody's!

 

[bwfcfan5]

41 minutes ago, Hoppy510 said:

No doubt by the end he'd take anything he can get, but that wasn't always the case was it?

Perhaps he should have cashed in with one of those tyre-kicking bankrupt billionaires as he likes to describe them?

So by the end any of these serious better options could have done a deal but chose not to. So the only option in reality was Bassini. 

[Mounts Kipper]

7 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said:

So by the end any of these serious better options could have done a deal but chose not to. So the only option in reality was Bassini. 

Until the end of the month, as I cannot cannot see him paying wages for March and April. 

Edited April 21, 2019 by Mounts Kipper