Duck Egg Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Mounts Kipper said: It would not surprise me, the Andersons still sticking knife in BWFC after they’ve left the building, also see LA involvement in the Matthews to palace, these 2 really are lowlife scum. Sluffy mustn't be up yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, Mr Grey said: Have you seen the released list from all the other clubs, some decent players on there, yeah it sounds easy, but there's better managers than Parkinson out there, Fresh start, fresh players, new era, start again.... all without that cunt in charge, club badly needs it, fans badly need it, keep him and we are fucked, hes a big part of the problem and he's driven fans away in their hoards. Those wanting him to be given another chance are fucking sadistic! Let’s face it he’s had plenty of time to be looking at the market Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rizlar Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, radcliffewhite1 said: Let’s face it he’s had plenty of time to be looking at the market Hopefully plenty of 6foot plus players who can't pass score goals are available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 19 minutes ago, Mr Grey said: And you would trust Parky to buy 5 decent players 🙄 We’re fishing in a shit pool of players, looking back to the last couple of campaigns he made couple of great signings in Morais and Karl Henry, that gives a little hope he can bring in the right players, granted it’s difficult given the situation we are in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rizlar Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 20 minutes ago, Cheese said: On what planet does 4000 x 52 = 1000000???? My thinking as well cheese unless mounts counting all the coaches etc in that figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 Just now, Rizlar said: My thinking as well cheese unless mounts counting all the coaches etc in that figure. See Jayjayoghani post above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white noise Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 (edited) We could have had Messi up top last season and still been relegated due to dreadful tactics Edited July 5, 2019 by white noise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted July 5, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted July 5, 2019 8 minutes ago, Rizlar said: My thinking as well cheese unless mounts counting all the coaches etc in that figure. Ah, I think he means if we keep Parkinson, we will save £1M in compensation - which could be spent on 5 players on 4k a week. I think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, white noise said: We could have had Messi up top last season and still been relegated due to dreadful tactics And if we'd had Messi up top do you think we'd have played like that? Come on. We tried playing differently in the period when Oztumer came into the side. We looked very poor doing it too. And as Oztumer admits himself - he didn't perform. If you remember the Blackburn home game we had so much ball and threatened so very little. Passing it sideways because we weren't good enough to open them up with a forward pass. There is a balance here. Was Parky too stubborn to change things sometimes? Absolutely. But we lacked in quality and whereas the season before we compensated for that with effort most of the time, last season the effort faded as the situation off field got worse and worse. I'd be happy if we changed managers but I think people have to be realistic about what the change would be and also what it would mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rizlar Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 11 minutes ago, Cheese said: Ah, I think he means if we keep Parkinson, we will save £1M in compensation - which could be spent on 5 players on 4k a week. I think? That's how I read it now too early in the morning for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted July 5, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted July 5, 2019 At an average of say £400 apiece, 2500 season tickets would cover £1m If PP is in charge, we could easily see more than that number of renewals drop off. All about the money when it comes down to it, can the new owners afford to gamble? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 1 minute ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: At an average of say £400 apiece, 2500 season tickets would cover £1m If PP is in charge, we could easily see more than that number of renewals drop off. All about the money when it comes down to it, can the new owners afford to gamble? We aren't selling an extra 2500 tickets at £400 whatever happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 (edited) If we’re making numbers up then: Parky’s on what, £5k per week so it will cost us £250k (of our frankly unknown budget) to get rid. Average season ticket cost, probably about £250 (might be a bit lower with kids but fuck it we’re making numbers up). Based on the small sample size of WW it seems like you might get an extra 15-20% of people buying season tickets if we have a new fresh face in and not Parky. If we say we will get 6,000 hardy souls buying a season ticket regardless, but the announcement of a new manager adds another 1,000 on, then that alone pays to pot Parky. We’re roughly net nil. Obviously all this is made up, just like 95% of the rest of this thread, but this is genuinely the type of market research that I expect successful business people will be doing to fully understand the picture and make an informed decision. Edit - Tonge Moor beat me to it. Different numbers but same principle, there are variables to consider and I would assume they (FV) are. Edited July 5, 2019 by Eddie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted July 5, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted July 5, 2019 Makes no sense whatsoever. There's likely to be a drop off from last year. Keep Parky and that drop off could easily be 2500 more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 Just now, Eddie said: If we’re making numbers up then: Parky’s on what, £5k per week so it will cost us £250k (of our frankly unknown budget) to get rid. Average season ticket cost, probably about £250 (might be a bit lower with kids but fuck it we’re making numbers up). Based on the small sample size of WW it seems like you might get an extra 15-20% of people buying season tickets if we have a new fresh face in and not Parky. If we say we will get 6,000 hardy souls buying a season ticket regardless, but the announcement of a new manager adds another 1,000 on, then that alone pays to pot Parky. We’re roughly net nil. Obviously all this is made up, just like 95% of the rest of this thread, but this is genuinely the type of market research that I expect successful business people will be doing to fully understand the picture and make an informed decision. The reported figure to pot PP was 1 million, not sure if that also includes his back room team though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted July 5, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted July 5, 2019 1 minute ago, Mounts Kipper said: The reported figure to pot PP was 1 million, not sure if that also includes his back room team though. It must do. He's never of 20 grand a week, surely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 9 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: It must do. He's never of 20 grand a week, surely. You’d hope he’s not, 10k wouldn’t be a surprise though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrener Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 26 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said: And if we'd had Messi up top do you think we'd have played like that? Come on. We tried playing differently in the period when Oztumer came into the side. We looked very poor doing it too. And as Oztumer admits himself - he didn't perform. If you remember the Blackburn home game we had so much ball and threatened so very little. Passing it sideways because we weren't good enough to open them up with a forward pass. There is a balance here. Was Parky too stubborn to change things sometimes? Absolutely. But we lacked in quality and whereas the season before we compensated for that with effort most of the time, last season the effort faded as the situation off field got worse and worse. I'd be happy if we changed managers but I think people have to be realistic about what the change would be and also what it would mean. We had le fondre up top he still played it long, the guys a dinosaur he can only play one way. Get over yourself!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/fa-league-cups/bradford-hero-phil-parkinsons-paltry-pay-packet-8464124.html%3famp ok a few years ago but currently now I reckon 6-8k a week with us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErnestTurnip Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 7 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: You’d hope he’s not, 10k wouldn’t be a surprise though. You'll be not far off and it kind of pushes me further towards the idea that some put forward that most managers actually don't matter and have very little influence - if the lad in charge is on the same as a 30+ yr old centre-half then no-one is putting much value in him are they? Throwing a guy in the pub ITK thing into the mix, think Keith Hill was on around £125k a year before any bonuses at Dale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 8 minutes ago, Mr Grey said: If it was performance related pay, he would owe us 😀 I’d say only for last season, the 2 before were decent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 5 minutes ago, Mr Grey said: If it was performance related pay, he would owe us 😀 Granted that link was a fair few years and he was also a championship manager for 2 years, I’d presume bonuses would be introduced rather than a whopping wage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masi 51 Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 Pot him while in administration save 75 per cent of his salary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wakey Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 If FV have a manager lined up who can come in immediately, that has to be plan A. I personally wouldn't include Lee, Darby or Phillips as sensible options here (despite the obvious "at least they're not Parkie" appeal). If not, it has to be Parkinson for the time being. Either way, it'll be seat of the pants stuff for the foreseeable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 (edited) 16 minutes ago, masi 51 said: Pot him while in administration save 75 per cent of his salary All football debtors are paid at 100%. Edited July 5, 2019 by Mounts Kipper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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