Guest Posted August 7, 2019 Posted August 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Leyther_Matt said: The costs of hosting the game would only be played once it has taken place so the ticket money would account for it you'd have thought, plus we must surely be due some EFL money? As Iles says there were up front costs - and you have to pay police etc... Admins aren't allowed to commit to future costs either if they can't fund it so FV are underwriting future costs. This is a terrible position we're in. Quote
Jol_BWFC Posted August 7, 2019 Posted August 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said: Its the administrators job to run the business IF cash is available to run it with. If cash runs out then they have to liquidate the business. Correct. If there is a shortage of funds in the business, I believe that you sometimes see a costs indemnity from the lender who appointed the administrators, so that they will fund the administration in order to facilitate a sale of the business. Escobarp is fairly clued up on this sort of stuff - perhaps he could confirm? Quote
burnden Posted August 7, 2019 Posted August 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, Ani said: It seems pretty straightforward. The admin have to run the club as close to break even as possible. To do this they have come up with a price, they have agreed this with the preferred bidder. There is not the option to use this game to thank and reward fans for their loyalty. Until we are out of Admin all decisions will be based on the idea of minimising losses. Agree with all that , think it would have been prudent for the administrators to have issued a statement alongside the pricing structure for this game maybe? Quote
Zico Posted August 7, 2019 Posted August 7, 2019 2 hours ago, Ani said: As I said no one ( or virtually no one) thought he was the messiah. He was a necessary evil. Do you really think the title of thread was serious ? no one thought it was the messiah but for a fair few he was beyond reproach because he was the only show in town and all that - plenty also took his side against Vince from FGR when that all kicked off when there wasn't really an excuse for how he conducted his business even now, Chris C is trying to defend or excuse his actions as a result of the media coverage he received Quote
Zico Posted August 7, 2019 Posted August 7, 2019 (edited) FFS Edited August 7, 2019 by ZicoKelly Quote
Zico Posted August 7, 2019 Posted August 7, 2019 (edited) FFS Edited August 7, 2019 by ZicoKelly triple post shit Quote
Leyther_Matt Posted August 7, 2019 Posted August 7, 2019 Heard you the first time, Zico... (FWIW, after seeing how many chances Doidge missed for Hibs on Saturday, we probably dodged a bullet on that one) Quote
Guest Posted August 7, 2019 Posted August 7, 2019 7 minutes ago, burnden said: Agree with all that , think it would have been prudent for the administrators to have issued a statement alongside the pricing structure for this game maybe? They didn't set prices. FV aren't going to say anything till they are officially in charge - IF.... Quote
Lt. Aldo Raine Posted August 7, 2019 Posted August 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Roger_Dubuis said: Biggest crowd of 2000/01 - 24,000 on a Tuesday night in February v Grimsby - because it was a fiver for anybody Biggest crowd in third tier under Ken - 23,000 v Chesterfield because it was a fiver for anybody It's offers like Season ticket holders can buy a ticket for a mate for a tenner that don't increase the crowd much. Reducing ticket prices alone won't result in a huge increase in attendance. Normally, there has to be something else to pull people in as well - a team playing good football, or on the way to promotion in the instance of the Chesterfield example. I have thought our current circumstances might well have been that added incentive this time around, but it would have been a big gamble for the administrators/FV. Quote
Casino Posted August 7, 2019 Posted August 7, 2019 25 minutes ago, snowball said: So Casino theres your answer cheers so, the cnuts at fv are funding previous debts of a business they may never own twats you can see why it seems so unbelievable Quote
HomerJay Posted August 7, 2019 Posted August 7, 2019 30 minutes ago, Ani said: It seems pretty straightforward. The admin have to run the club as close to break even as possible. To do this they have come up with a price, they have agreed this with the preferred bidder. There is not the option to use this game to thank and reward fans for their loyalty. Until we are out of Admin all decisions will be based on the idea of minimising losses. Agreed. I assume the only input FV would have had would have been purely advisory. Quote
Chris Custodiet Posted August 7, 2019 Posted August 7, 2019 20 minutes ago, ZicoKelly said: no one thought it was the messiah but for a fair few he was beyond reproach because he was the only show in town and all that - plenty also took his side against Vince from FGR when that all kicked off when there wasn't really an excuse for how he conducted his business even now, Chris C is trying to defend or excuse his actions as a result of the media coverage he received Completely wrong. I've never argued nor expected Ken Anderson to be some kind of saint or martyr and neither have I defended nor excused any actions where there is evidence of any wrongdoing or illegality. But I have criticised fake news, falsehood, misrepresentation, prejudice, bias, and rabble rousing and there's been a tsunami of it. Quote
chrisw99 Posted August 7, 2019 Posted August 7, 2019 15 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said: Reducing ticket prices alone won't result in a huge increase in attendance. Normally, there has to be something else to pull people in as well - a team playing good football, or on the way to promotion in the instance of the Chesterfield example. I have thought our current circumstances might well have been that added incentive this time around, but it would have been a big gamble for the administrators/FV. It's going to be a struggle to pull people in whilst we have that -12, which is going to be a big noose around our necks for a while even if everything is sorted and we're playing well. It's hard to pull the crowds in if you're rock bottom and heading for relegation. I'm just going to go and join mickbrown in his shed, as I know that's where he keeps his homebrew... Quote
Burndens Bogs Posted August 7, 2019 Posted August 7, 2019 11 minutes ago, chrisw99 said: I'm just going to go and join mickbrown in his shed, as I know that's where he keeps his homebrew... I get the feeling there may be a fair few in Micks shed come Saturday afternoon. Quote
zurichwhite Posted August 7, 2019 Posted August 7, 2019 Given that people paid for Brentford and as far as I’m aware, not been paid back, and we have a bunch of kids playing, plus ST holders expect to pay 15-18 quid on average as they will attend all the games, a certain amount of goodwill would be in order for this particular game ie 15 quid. Quote
ROVERS F.C. Posted August 7, 2019 Posted August 7, 2019 Come on Bolton fans FFS...your club right now has no viable income yet some appear to be moaning at £24? Do some of you actually believe it should be free... Quote
Traf Posted August 7, 2019 Posted August 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, ROVERS F.C. said: Come on Bolton fans FFS...your club right now has no viable income yet some appear to be moaning at £24? Do some of you actually believe it should be free... Sadly, this is where we're at. Quote
ROVERS F.C. Posted August 7, 2019 Posted August 7, 2019 That's the going rate we were paying at Ewood when we dropped a few seasons ago. Your club needs every penny right now,I'd be backing them to the hilt. Quote
awandering Posted August 7, 2019 Posted August 7, 2019 5 minutes ago, ROVERS F.C. said: Come on Bolton fans FFS...your club right now has no viable income yet some appear to be moaning at £24? Do some of you actually believe it should be free... Sadly plenty would still say it was over their budget or have an alternative excuse lined up Quote
Tommy Banks Posted August 7, 2019 Posted August 7, 2019 What ever the cost you either pay it or don’t go. No point in trying to convince people who think it should be cheaper. What’s concerning me is it seems to be taking a long time for updated information. But then that’s par for the course right now. Quote
Ruba Mustafa Posted August 7, 2019 Posted August 7, 2019 Just been up to the club shop. not on sale yet. Imo it's an it issue. only taking cash payments for merchandise. im no expert tho! :lol: Quote
Matty Posted August 7, 2019 Posted August 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, Tommy Banks said: What ever the cost you either pay it or don’t go. No point in trying to convince people who think it should be cheaper. What’s concerning me is it seems to be taking a long time for updated information. But then that’s par for the course right now. Takes a long time to set prices. Quote
DomRepWanderer Posted August 7, 2019 Posted August 7, 2019 Bolton Wanderers Official 6 mins · 📰 CLUB STATEMENT: Saturday’s Sky Bet League One game against Coventry City is going ahead. We will issue a further update on ticket sales tomorrow morning. We apologise for any inconvenience this has caused and we thank you for your continued patience. Quote
chrisw99 Posted August 7, 2019 Posted August 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Ruba Mustafa said: Just been up to the club shop. not on sale yet. Imo it's an it issue. only taking cash payments for merchandise. im no expert tho! They were only taking cash payments towards the end of last season as the club hadn't paid the bills for the card machine functionality. I bet that's what's happened now - people have turned up at the shop to buy tickets, with a credit/debit card, and they've realised they can't sell them. Quote
Tommy Banks Posted August 7, 2019 Posted August 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, DomRepWanderer said: Bolton Wanderers Official 6 mins · 📰 CLUB STATEMENT: Saturday’s Sky Bet League One game against Coventry City is going ahead. We will issue a further update on ticket sales tomorrow morning. We apologise for any inconvenience this has caused and we thank you for your continued patience. It gets worse by the hour Quote
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