Wanderers v Coventry

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Yes and I think the admin/ FV have judged this one wrong.

They’ve misjudged the expected demand and misjudged the price what people in two minds would pay. 

It was all set up for an offer to get a big bumper crowd on but they chose the safe option. 

People do get prices wrong sometimes. Just like when we’ve had ticket offers on for mundane shit wank mid week games against Gillingham or whoever. Compete waste of time and they misjudged the situation.

Just like the admin have here. 

First home game of the season, fresh start, new regime and a ticket offer would have the place packed. However as everybody knows once you get past the 11-13k ardent lot, it doesn’t take much to tip the balance the other way for the rest of em. 

Some say fuck em. Some say it’s wasted chance to fill the ground. There’s no problem with either. 

Well they are going to lower them so I assume they agree. 

[hughmungus]

14 minutes ago, Breightmet Boy said:

Why, Bolton have done it before, why not now?

Because any Police resources will cost more especially the closer the kick off before they agree resource numbers. Its not like they, the Ambulance and St Johns lot have a magic reserve of people that drop everything for a match. The club has to factor all the costs into the equation and as they are still in debt to them all I would have thought any grace period is well gone.

[ErnestTurnip]

Presume they will have to open the upper tiers to fit everyone in who will rock up at the lower prices?

[DirtySanchez]

1 hour ago, mickbrown said:

The price of a game if you had bought a season ticket, which 10k of us did last season and loads of us still want to.

So cost of season ticket in lower tier divided by the number of games.

Just as an aside, the cheapest adult season ticket at Man City works out at £18 a game.

Do people who didn't buy a season ticket last season or intend to this season get it for the same price or are they expected to pay more? After all they might say they will buy one but might not 

It was £21 at Wycombe last week and our support was lauded. It cost me £8 in a taxi to the ground and whilst I paid a lot less in train fares than anybody coming from Bolton that's quite an outlay even before you start supping 

But some of the folk who laud the support complain about watching the same kids for £24 need to give their head a shake. I can't make it due to a prior arrangement though

And if Iles has his theories about the prices then write an article in the BN and put your name to it rather than stirring up shit on twitter 

[Eavesy]

50 minutes ago, gonzo said:

For my family of four it’s £72.

If It was £52 more families of four would go.

Im not really sure why it’s so difficult for some to compute this. I’m also not really sure whats wrong with saying it. 

It doesn’t make you disloyal or anti bolton to suggest tickets for Saturday may be slightly too high given the occasion. Nor does it suggest your not going yourself. 

Polarisation at its very best. 

 

But it doesn’t make more families go.

weve reduces tickets countless times and it’s had zero impact. 

Simply reducing ticket prices does not make more people go

[Tommy Banks]

Surely if it was because they’re going to reduce prices then it would have been done by now. I’m no IT expert but I’m pretty sure it doesn’t take 3 hours to change the details on the software.

[HomerJay]

Just now, Tommy Banks said:

Surely if it was because they’re going to reduce prices then it would have been done by now. I’m no IT expert but I’m pretty sure it doesn’t take 3 hours to change the details on the software.

it doesnt. if this is what is happening...

more complex is what are they doing with those who have already purchased.

 

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Casino said:

are we not alll better off than normal as we havent paid for season tickets?

The voice of reason

no place for such rationality 

[jeep]

36 minutes ago, Ani said:

I am pretty sure that the administrator will have to run any event as profitable or as close to break even as possible. So the pricing will reflect this rather than any longer term pricing. 

Say we get 12000 at £24 a ticket. 

We would need nearer 16500 at £20 a ticket. Given Cov sell out either way. You are looking at an extra 4500 extra Bolton fans. So to make numbers simple (no calculator) assume 2k from Cov. And this is fixed number. You would need 45% extra Bolton fans. 

Good points. 

But if we sell 16500 father than 12000 then the there will be additional costs- more stewards, more police, more match day staff, etc.

Therefore less profit, if any....

Saturday at Wycombe was superb. It's a pity that feel good factor is gone already....

[gonzo]

4 minutes ago, Eavesy said:

But it doesn’t make more families go.

weve reduces tickets countless times and it’s had zero impact. 

Simply reducing ticket prices does not make more people go

It would do on this occasion imo.

might not work overall has sometimes not worked in the past. But Saturday? Of course it would. 

 

[Tommy Banks]

3 minutes ago, HomerJay said:

it doesnt. if this is what is happening...

more complex is what are they doing with those who have already purchased.

 

It could be but wasn’t the suspension put in place before they went on sale at 9.am

[Okocha10]

7 minutes ago, HomerJay said:

it doesnt. if this is what is happening...

more complex is what are they doing with those who have already purchased.

 

No one managed to purchase any tickets did they, pulled it before anyone could? But why did they not stop the tickets hours before if it's to do with prices, surely it's not took them to 10 to 9 to change a decision. 

Edited August 7, 2019 by Okocha10

[1969]

Don't worry lads and lasses st have put out a statement 

[Traf]

My only issue about the pricing is that U-12's are charged the same as U-18's. 
Some concession could have been made there.

[Leyther_Matt]

45 minutes ago, Ani said:

I am pretty sure that the administrator will have to run any event as profitable or as close to break even as possible. So the pricing will reflect this rather than any longer term pricing. 

Say we get 12000 at £24 a ticket. 

We would need nearer 16500 at £20 a ticket. Given Cov sell out either way. You are looking at an extra 4500 extra Bolton fans. So to make numbers simple (no calculator) assume 2k from Cov. And this is fixed number. You would need 45% extra Bolton fans. 

That's the long and short of it.

Come the eventual change of ownership then it will be the time to look at long-term pricing strategies, building the fanbase and whatnot, but until then the decisions are being made by people who are being paid to get in as much money as possible as soon as possible, regardless of PR or anything else.

Yes, it probably is a wasted opportunity and maybe it is being reviewed with that in mind, but anyone who spent the best part of £100 to go to Wycombe (it cost me £19 just for me and t'lad in Burger King at Hilton Park services on the way back FFS) surely isn't really in a position to say they're not bothering because of the cost.

For what it's worth, I agree with Gonzo's point to a certain extent and would look at retaining the £24 adult price but vastly reduce the kids price so that it becomes more affordable for a family while still retaining the income of single adults etc.

[Big E]

The biggest issue is that when the tickets get announced as £15 each it will be sadly too late for the folk who weren't going until it was £15 as the buses are now £5 / people have made plans for saturday now......boooooooooo

[Roger_Dubuis]

22 minutes ago, Eavesy said:

But it doesn’t make more families go.

weve reduces tickets countless times and it’s had zero impact. 

Simply reducing ticket prices does not make more people go

Biggest crowd of 2000/01 - 24,000 on a Tuesday night in February v Grimsby - because it was a fiver for anybody

Biggest crowd in third tier under Ken  - 23,000 v Chesterfield because it was a fiver for anybody

 

It's offers like Season ticket holders can buy a ticket for a mate for a tenner that don't increase the crowd much.

 

[Spider]

21 minutes ago, 1969 said:

Don't worry lads and lasses st have put out a statement 

Where?

[gonzo]

Highest ever gate at reebok v Leicester was a ticket offer. So was highest ever attendance in Europe. 

[burnden]

4 minutes ago, Spider said:

Where?

Message from BWFCST board

After the announcement of ticket prices for Saturday's game, the BWFCST board sent the following email to Paul Appleton (Rubins), the football club administrator, last night. We await his response:

"Good evening Paul,

Further to the announcement on the club website this afternoon, the BWFCST is appalled at the pricing of tickets for this coming Saturday's first home game of the season.

We are therefore issuing an immediate plea for you to reconsider the pricing structure as a matter of urgency before ticket sales commence at 9.00am tomorrow morning.

We join with other BWFC fans groups in registering our dismay at this treatment of not only the BWFC fans, but also the visiting Coventry City supporters. 

The patience and loyalty of our club's amazing supporters, on show for all to see at Wycombe last Saturday, is being tested and disrespected yet again.

Circumstances do alter cases and in the ongoing distressed situation at our club, we would ask that you reconsider pricing. Surely a maximum level not exceeding £20 for full price ticketing would encourage the support in numbers that the name of Bolton Wanderers deserves?

We would also ask you to reconsider allowing sales on the day and we are at a loss to understand why this facility is being denied to supporters.

We hope that you will reconsider and treat the supporters of both clubs with more respect than is currently on show.  

BWFCST Board"

[Cheese]

They put that out last night. 

[mickbrown]

40 minutes ago, DirtySanchez said:

Do people who didn't buy a season ticket last season or intend to this season get it for the same price or are they expected to pay more? After all they might say they will buy one but might not 

It was £21 at Wycombe last week and our support was lauded. It cost me £8 in a taxi to the ground and whilst I paid a lot less in train fares than anybody coming from Bolton that's quite an outlay even before you start supping 

But some of the folk who laud the support complain about watching the same kids for £24 need to give their head a shake. I can't make it due to a prior arrangement though

And if Iles has his theories about the prices then write an article in the BN and put your name to it rather than stirring up shit on twitter 

Was just a thought. I ain’t going so they can charge whatever the fuck they want to be honest. 

I’m past caring until the season tickets are announced 

[Casino]

9 minutes ago, burnden said:

Message from BWFCST board

After the announcement of ticket prices for Saturday's game, the BWFCST board sent the following email to Paul Appleton (Rubins), the football club administrator, last night. We await his response:

"Good evening Paul,

Further to the announcement on the club website this afternoon, the BWFCST is appalled at the pricing of tickets for this coming Saturday's first home game of the season.

We are therefore issuing an immediate plea for you to reconsider the pricing structure as a matter of urgency before ticket sales commence at 9.00am tomorrow morning.

We join with other BWFC fans groups in registering our dismay at this treatment of not only the BWFC fans, but also the visiting Coventry City supporters. 

The patience and loyalty of our club's amazing supporters, on show for all to see at Wycombe last Saturday, is being tested and disrespected yet again.

Circumstances do alter cases and in the ongoing distressed situation at our club, we would ask that you reconsider pricing. Surely a maximum level not exceeding £20 for full price ticketing would encourage the support in numbers that the name of Bolton Wanderers deserves?

We would also ask you to reconsider allowing sales on the day and we are at a loss to understand why this facility is being denied to supporters.

We hope that you will reconsider and treat the supporters of both clubs with more respect than is currently on show.  

BWFCST Board"

 

Dear BWFCST

 

Tell you what, lets just fuck it off and shut the doors

 

Regards

Paul

[Take Hunt Off]

3 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

Was just a thought. I ain’t going so they can charge whatever the fuck they want to be honest. 

I’m past caring until the season tickets are announced 

We all know by now that your not going & will be in your potting shed so you dont need to keep telling us.

[Casino]

ps wtf is wrong with the pricing for coventry fans?