Wanderers v Coventry

[Tonge moor green jacket]

1 minute ago, HomerJay said:

Why? What difference does it make?

Come 3pm Saturday, the game is either on or it isn't. 

True, though it does sap the enthusiasm somewhat.

[radcliffe white]

8 minutes ago, HomerJay said:

Why? What difference does it make?

Come 3pm Saturday, the game is either on or it isn't. 

Suppose , just a shit day at work 

think it’s all the last minute malarkey 

[radcliffe white]

7 minutes ago, Mr Grey said:

Is the game on or off?, or is everyone just flapping like a fat birds tits

Club confirmed it’s on 

 

[Tommy Banks]

https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/17822664.know-delayed-bolton-v-coventry-city-tickets/

[frank_spencer]

What's it say I'm bolloxed if I'm filling in their data mining questionnaire 

[Boby Brno]

11 minutes ago, Tommy Banks said:

https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/17822664.know-delayed-bolton-v-coventry-city-tickets/

To be fair to the potential new owners with no experience of running a football club it must be like learning to fly.

[MancWanderer]

Here you go frank........

PREPARATIONS for Wanderers’ first game of the season remain in disarray just three days before kick-off after the sale of tickets was withdrawn suddenly by the club.

Fans had been critical of the pricing structure announced on Monday evening, which put adult tickets at £24, Under-23s and Over-65s at £18 and Under-18s at £12.

At 8.50am this morning – just 10 minutes before going on open sale to the public – Wanderers made a statement to say tickets sales were being suspended, pending “very recent developments”.

A further announcement was then made this afternoon to thank fans for their continued patience, with the promise of another update tomorrow morning.

It is understood the delay is down to the Football Ventures consortium, who had agreed to underwrite the costs of the game going ahead even if their takeover had not yet been completed.

The price of putting on this game in particular is higher than normal as many of the businesses and services needed on match-day have remained unpaid since the tail end of Ken Anderson’s time as owner.

That could go some way to explaining why ticket costs were pitched so high – although The Bolton News has learned there was a high degree of internal concern among staff that the prices would be poorly-received, given the uncertainty of the last few months and the lack of senior player recruitment over the summer.

The final say went to an external management company associated with Nick Mason, the Pink Floyd drummer, and known business partner of Sharon Brittan.

The same company sought to put sales on hold today – and their increasing influence on club affairs could be an indication that the takeover is finally drawing to a conclusion.

Talk was again positive behind the scenes with one source claiming there had been “distinct movement” in the last couple of days as a matter was rectified with one of the senior creditors.

An SAG meeting held in Bolton Town Hall also passed without incident, and there is no known problem with the stadium’s safety certificate.

Nevertheless, there is an understandable air of cynicism among the Bolton fans having heard Football Ventures described as being so close to taking ownership for so long. The consortium is now entering into a fifth week as the administrators’ preferential bidder.

As such, talk that a cut in pricing could also be timed with an announcement on ownership has been treated with some caution.

The need to resume positivity shown among supporters at last weekend’s game against Wycombe, however, is quite obvious. And after an angry reaction to ticket pricing, a familiar air of frustration is beginning to creep in once again.

Should the club live up to its promise of an update on Thursday morning, there will be just two full days for fans to collect or download tickets.

The Bolton Wanderers Supporters’ Trust had earlier appealed for a reduction in pricing in an official statement released on Monday night – and have also been in discussion with members of Football Ventures.

“Further to the announcement on the club website this afternoon, the BWFCST is appalled at the pricing of tickets for this coming Saturday's first home game of the season,” read a statement from the board.

“We are therefore issuing an immediate plea for you to reconsider the pricing structure as a matter of urgency before ticket sales commence at 9am tomorrow morning.

“We join with other BWFC fans groups in registering our dismay at this treatment of not only the BWFC fans, but also the visiting Coventry City supporters.

“The patience and loyalty of our club's amazing supporters, on show for all to see at Wycombe last Saturday, is being tested and disrespected yet again.

“Circumstances do alter cases and in the ongoing distressed situation at our club, we would ask that you reconsider pricing. Surely a maximum level not exceeding £20 for full price ticketing would encourage the support in numbers that the name of Bolton Wanderers deserves?

“We would also ask you to reconsider allowing sales on the day and we are at a loss to understand why this facility is being denied to supporters.

“We hope that you will reconsider and treat the supporters of both clubs with more respect than is currently on show.”

[barrycowdrill]

The ST could shit on the bald clowns head and he’d say thank you and write an article on how much of a polished & fragrant piece of shite it was 

[Burnden Pies]

3 minutes ago, barrycowdrill said:

The ST could shit on the bald clowns head and he’d say thank you and write an article on how much of a polished & fragrant piece of shite it was 

Haha that's a belter!! Suppose it would make a change from him being right up their arses.

[Traf]

16 minutes ago, MancWanderer said:

Here you go frank........

PREPARATIONS for Wanderers’ first game of the season remain in disarray just three days before kick-off after the sale of tickets was withdrawn suddenly by the club.

Fans had been critical of the pricing structure announced on Monday evening, which put adult tickets at £24, Under-23s and Over-65s at £18 and Under-18s at £12.

At 8.50am this morning – just 10 minutes before going on open sale to the public – Wanderers made a statement to say tickets sales were being suspended, pending “very recent developments”.

A further announcement was then made this afternoon to thank fans for their continued patience, with the promise of another update tomorrow morning.

It is understood the delay is down to the Football Ventures consortium, who had agreed to underwrite the costs of the game going ahead even if their takeover had not yet been completed.

The price of putting on this game in particular is higher than normal as many of the businesses and services needed on match-day have remained unpaid since the tail end of Ken Anderson’s time as owner.

That could go some way to explaining why ticket costs were pitched so high – although The Bolton News has learned there was a high degree of internal concern among staff that the prices would be poorly-received, given the uncertainty of the last few months and the lack of senior player recruitment over the summer.

The final say went to an external management company associated with Nick Mason, the Pink Floyd drummer, and known business partner of Sharon Brittan.

The same company sought to put sales on hold today – and their increasing influence on club affairs could be an indication that the takeover is finally drawing to a conclusion.

Talk was again positive behind the scenes with one source claiming there had been “distinct movement” in the last couple of days as a matter was rectified with one of the senior creditors.

An SAG meeting held in Bolton Town Hall also passed without incident, and there is no known problem with the stadium’s safety certificate.

Nevertheless, there is an understandable air of cynicism among the Bolton fans having heard Football Ventures described as being so close to taking ownership for so long. The consortium is now entering into a fifth week as the administrators’ preferential bidder.

As such, talk that a cut in pricing could also be timed with an announcement on ownership has been treated with some caution.

The need to resume positivity shown among supporters at last weekend’s game against Wycombe, however, is quite obvious. And after an angry reaction to ticket pricing, a familiar air of frustration is beginning to creep in once again.

Should the club live up to its promise of an update on Thursday morning, there will be just two full days for fans to collect or download tickets.

The Bolton Wanderers Supporters’ Trust had earlier appealed for a reduction in pricing in an official statement released on Monday night – and have also been in discussion with members of Football Ventures.

“Further to the announcement on the club website this afternoon, the BWFCST is appalled at the pricing of tickets for this coming Saturday's first home game of the season,” read a statement from the board.

“We are therefore issuing an immediate plea for you to reconsider the pricing structure as a matter of urgency before ticket sales commence at 9am tomorrow morning.

“We join with other BWFC fans groups in registering our dismay at this treatment of not only the BWFC fans, but also the visiting Coventry City supporters.

“The patience and loyalty of our club's amazing supporters, on show for all to see at Wycombe last Saturday, is being tested and disrespected yet again.

“Circumstances do alter cases and in the ongoing distressed situation at our club, we would ask that you reconsider pricing. Surely a maximum level not exceeding £20 for full price ticketing would encourage the support in numbers that the name of Bolton Wanderers deserves?

“We would also ask you to reconsider allowing sales on the day and we are at a loss to understand why this facility is being denied to supporters.

“We hope that you will reconsider and treat the supporters of both clubs with more respect than is currently on show.”

another non-story from the thumb-headed news nonce

[barrycowdrill]

9 minutes ago, Traf said:

another non-story from the thumb-headed news nonce

Never shy’s away from balancing the negativity of what’s going on and the actions of those involved with a subtle a positive on the ST and how they’re fighting for the fans 

[MalcolmW]

My original plan was to arrive 3 hours early on Saturday and get a ticket.

No pay on the day required a change of plan.

Not enough time between a supermarket shop and going out to lunch to get over on Wednesday morning, but I decided I could go straight from lunch, using 5 motorways, to get to the ground. But before I left for lunch the sales had been suspended.

I have an afternoon commitment tomorrow, but could venture over in the hope that sales begin at 9, or even 10. Or I could try after 4, but don't fancy rush hour traffic.

On Friday I have a delivery expected some time in the afternoon, so a morning trip seems best.

Alternatively I could go and get a printer!

[Leyther_Matt]

4 minutes ago, MalcolmW said:

My original plan was to arrive 3 hours early on Saturday and get a ticket.

No pay on the day required a change of plan.

Not enough time between a supermarket shop and going out to lunch to get over on Wednesday morning, but I decided I could go straight from lunch, using 5 motorways, to get to the ground. But before I left for lunch the sales had been suspended.

I have an afternoon commitment tomorrow, but could venture over in the hope that sales begin at 9, or even 10. Or I could try after 4, but don't fancy rush hour traffic.

On Friday I have a delivery expected some time in the afternoon, so a morning trip seems best.

Alternatively I could go and get a printer!

Order online and then collect on Saturday (turning up early to avoid the queues)

[Zico]

going to have to sit in west lower on my todd as the 3 I normally go with aren't

not boycotting or owt, they just can't make it

under normal circumstances I'd fuck it off, still might, especially if it's on IPTV

will probably go though

[Ros Coe]

8 minutes ago, MalcolmW said:

My original plan was to arrive 3 hours early on Saturday and get a ticket.

No pay on the day required a change of plan.

Not enough time between a supermarket shop and going out to lunch to get over on Wednesday morning, but I decided I could go straight from lunch, using 5 motorways, to get to the ground. But before I left for lunch the sales had been suspended.

I have an afternoon commitment tomorrow, but could venture over in the hope that sales begin at 9, or even 10. Or I could try after 4, but don't fancy rush hour traffic.

On Friday I have a delivery expected some time in the afternoon, so a morning trip seems best.

Alternatively I could go and get a printer!

I don’t know the answer to this but once you’ve bought a ticket on line, can they not just scan the barcode on your phone at the turnstile?

[Cheese]

9 minutes ago, Ros Coe said:

I don’t know the answer to this but once you’ve bought a ticket on line, can they not just scan the barcode on your phone at the turnstile?

A barcode is the same barcode whether it's printed on paper or displayed on a screen, so I don't see why not. From a purely technical aspect, there shouldn't be a problem. Just have to see what happens tomorrow. 

[victor meldrew]

what about the older ones who don't know /can't do this?

FV =ageist 

[stevieb]

10 minutes ago, Cheese said:

A barcode is the same barcode whether it's printed on paper or displayed on a screen, so I don't see why not. From a purely technical aspect, there shouldn't be a problem. Just have to see what happens tomorrow. 

If it's owt like the barriers at manc victoria a top tip would be to turn your screen brightness up when it's getting scanned! 

 

[MickyD]

5 hours ago, Boby Brno said:

GMP 18k

N W Ambulance 22k

StJohns Ambulance 7k

 

When the stadium first opened, the ground safety certificate required the attendance of a fire engine and two fire officers to be on-site and another two fire engines available to attend one within eeight minutes the other 12. This was achievable by appliances from Horwich and Bolton. After two seasons, this was downgraded and the on-site appliance and one of the officers were removed from the safety cert. Another two years later and they (whoever "they" are) decided to remove the need for any attendance during match days due to the number of times during that period that the fire service was used. "They" decided that any attendance could be made in the same way that any other incident would be made. i.e. from the nearest available station.

All of that said, I get why GMP need to be at the stadium but not really NWAS along with St Johns. St Johns ambulance are trained in first aid and have ambulances and drivers capable of transporting someone to hospital under blue-light conditions. Why, then, is there a need for NWAS to do exactly the same stuff as the much cheaper alternative?

[Boby Brno]

13 minutes ago, victor meldrew said:

what about the older ones who don't know /can't do this?

FV =ageist 

On Saturday I travelled from Manc to London return with qr tickets on my phone. London to High Wycombe return same. Monday, Manc to Birmingham return same. Ordered my 5th day Test ticket whilst on the train down. (they printed them when I arrived) Manc to Bolton same. Today, 2 buses, 2 qr tickets. I also possess an Epson printer (only use Epson inks) that I will print  my ticket off (grey scale) I’m 64. It’s not an age thing.

I’ll be quite happy to print anyone’s ticket off if they require. 

Looking forward, the club seriously needs to look at Wycombe's ticket system. It was first class.

[Casino]

8 of us travelled, saturday

24 sheets of a4 printed 

Don't trust phones

Edited August 7, 2019 by Casino

[Boby Brno]

9 minutes ago, Casino said:

8 of us travelled, saturday

24 sheets of a4 printed 

Don't trust phones

24 sheets! I’m withdrawing  my printing offer. 

[leigh white]

I wish i could go back to the olden days when you just payed at the turnstile to watch a match.

[Tommy Banks]

1 hour ago, leigh white said:

I wish i could go back to the olden days when you just payed at the turnstile to watch a match.

Me too, when it was 2 shillings to stand on the railway embankment 

[Sluffy]

7 hours ago, Damocles said:

Would it therefore be classed as preferential treatment to an unsecured creditor if Ticketmaster used the commissions earned to pay down the debt, rather than as a ‘new’ income?

Sorry for delayed reply, I've been out for the evening.

Payment from the Administrator would be seen as preferential treatment to an unsecured creditor but rather interestingly we are informed by Iles that it is FV who are the ones paying to stage the game.

I guess there would be no issue if FV made a goodwill payment to say Tick master directly (rather than from the Administrator) and in turn they drop their claim as a secured creditor (against BWFAC Ltd) and provide immediate service to the Administrator for the sale of tickets for the Coventry match.

It would cost FV around £40k more than they needed to have paid (to fund the unsecured creditors at 35p in the £) but their 'goodwill' gesture would of course give them instance access to cash flow from sale of ST's and match day ticketing from day one of the takeover.

Such action may/would obviously be viewed unfavourably by those unsecured creditors not given a goodwill payment but I suggest Ticket Master is so key an element for their immediate cashflow issues that they may well take that chance and get them onboard ASAP.

That's how I see it anyway.