Traf Posted March 30, 2020 Posted March 30, 2020 12 minutes ago, peelyfeet said: I employ myself Traf - there's 1 person in my business. I'm not classed as self employed because I'm a Ltd company. I have to be a Ltd company in my line of work. It wasn’t directed solely at you. There’s a common misconception that the self-employed will do well out of this. I derive my income from horse racing and travel, 2 industries that are pretty much in shutdown. My wife is also self employed, she runs classes which are now also closed for obvious reasons. So we currently can’t earn, but can apply for a grant in late June. There’s no reason to make us wait that long and no suggestion other than a loan to tide people over. Weve money set aside, but many won’t have. Quote
peelyfeet Posted March 30, 2020 Posted March 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, Traf said: It wasn’t directed solely at you. There’s a common misconception that the self-employed will do well out of this. I derive my income from horse racing and travel, 2 industries that are pretty much in shutdown. My wife is also self employed, she runs classes which are now also closed for obvious reasons. So we currently can’t earn, but can apply for a grant in late June. There’s no reason to make us wait that long and no suggestion other than a loan to tide people over. Weve money set aside, but many won’t have. no worries mate, just venting my spleen, shouting at the internet. My mrs works in business travel, she's an operations manager, been kept on for now so still has to work but has been asked to take unpaid leave, 90 % of the staff are furloughed, they won't last very long. Quote
miamiwhite Posted March 30, 2020 Posted March 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, peelyfeet said: no worries mate, just venting my spleen, shouting at the internet. My mrs works in business travel, she's an operations manager, been kept on for now so still has to work but has been asked to take unpaid leave, 90 % of the staff are furloughed, they won't last very long. Didn't Martin Lewis mention something the other day re your kind of limited company and help which is available ? Will try and find the link again. Quote
peelyfeet Posted March 30, 2020 Posted March 30, 2020 Just now, miamiwhite said: Didn't Martin Lewis mention something the other day re your kind of limited company and help which is available ? Will try and find the link again. cheers Quote
royal white Posted March 30, 2020 Posted March 30, 2020 As mentioned above is it not better for some of the lads and lasses that are self employed to try and get a job driving, stacking shelves etc till all this blows over? I’m SE and fortunately still able to go to work, however I’m looking at possibly getting a job local as the missus is pregnant and fear for her sanity more than anything. Yes I will be on a lot less but it would be better than the grants on offer. Many supermarkets still appear to be taking on. Quote
only1swanny Posted March 30, 2020 Posted March 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, royal white said: As mentioned above is it not better for some of the lads and lasses that are self employed to try and get a job driving, stacking shelves etc till all this blows over? I’m SE and fortunately still able to go to work, however I’m looking at possibly getting a job local as the missus is pregnant and fear for her sanity more than anything. Yes I will be on a lot less but it would be better than the grants on offer. Many supermarkets still appear to be taking on. Which for tradesmen is no different a risk to carrying on working with more social distancing.. It's less risky going into the house of someone with no symptoms and following distancing rules, than having 100's of people who may be hiding them coming into your workplace, day after day. In Tesco yesterday and despite all the rules, there are still people picking things up, putting them back.. One guy licked his finger so that he could open a plastic bag on the fruit isle! Quote
Guest Posted March 30, 2020 Posted March 30, 2020 5 minutes ago, royal white said: As mentioned above is it not better for some of the lads and lasses that are self employed to try and get a job driving, stacking shelves etc till all this blows over? I’m SE and fortunately still able to go to work, however I’m looking at possibly getting a job local as the missus is pregnant and fear for her sanity more than anything. Yes I will be on a lot less but it would be better than the grants on offer. Many supermarkets still appear to be taking on. But then if you're working in a supermarket say you're increasing the risk for your wife. That's the problem loads have - if you work you increase risk...and that's fine if you and those you live with are all low risk. But if not? Quote
only1swanny Posted March 30, 2020 Posted March 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said: But then if you're working in a supermarket say you're increasing the risk for your wife. That's the problem loads have - if you work you increase risk...and that's fine if you and those you live with are all low risk. But if not? Social distancing in the house. I've not slept in my own bed for the last 3 weeks. I've been on the couch, separate room for most of the time and spending time in the garden. Come in, in the bath, and getting changed. Separate towels, I put food in the over, she takes it out. All reduces risks Quote
Guest Nordkurve Posted March 30, 2020 Posted March 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Rudy’s Message said: A few days ago didn’t EasyJet pay out £170m to their shareholders? But is now using the government retention scheme to pay their staff? Is that not a bit wrong. Same with Branson asking for a government bail out. He’s worth £5b. Im happily to be corrected but these airlines seem shady as fuck. That is everything that is wrong with the Airline industry. Same happened at Thomas Cook. Same happened at Air Berlin when I worked there. The CEO had his bonus protected so that the liquidators had to pay him. Meanwhile, muppets like me are still owed over a grand, which I will never see, despite supposedly being at the top of the list of Creditors. As for Virgin, they are 49% owned by Delta which made massive profits in the last years. Quote
Guest Posted March 30, 2020 Posted March 30, 2020 Just now, only1swanny said: Social distancing in the house. I've not slept in my own bed for the last 3 weeks. I've been on the couch, separate room for most of the time and spending time in the garden. Come in, in the bath, and getting changed. Separate towels, I put food in the over, she takes it out. All reduces risks The contagiousness of this thing means whatever you do in a shared house you're highly highly unlikely not to pass it on. Its airborne. In enclosed spaces people sitting 10M away from where an infected person sat on a bus got it even when the person had got off the bus 30 minutes earlier. People do what they have to but there is no way to really reduce the risks inside a property or doesn't seem to be looking at how easily it spreads. Quote
royal white Posted March 30, 2020 Posted March 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, only1swanny said: Which for tradesmen is no different a risk to carrying on working with more social distancing.. It's less risky going into the house of someone with no symptoms and following distancing rules, than having 100's of people who may be hiding them coming into your workplace, day after day. In Tesco yesterday and despite all the rules, there are still people picking things up, putting them back.. One guy licked his finger so that he could open a plastic bag on the fruit isle! Fully agree but I’m sure a major problem with tradesman is people not wanting them in their homes? Would a decorator for example, who mainly earns from painting and decorating peoples houses, be better off getting a job rather than waiting for a grant? I don’t know the answer just thinking of options. Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted March 30, 2020 Posted March 30, 2020 8 minutes ago, royal white said: Fully agree but I’m sure a major problem with tradesman is people not wanting them in their homes? Would a decorator for example, who mainly earns from painting and decorating peoples houses, be better off getting a job rather than waiting for a grant? I don’t know the answer just thinking of options. I had an old lady telling us she didn't want us coming round doing her weeding. Wouldn't be going within 10 yards minimum of her and that's with old stone walls around 2 feet thick in between! Ah well, nowt I can do about it. Also had to knock a couple of scarifying jobs on the head- Bury council not emptied the green bins, tips closed so nowhere to put a mountain of moss. Only so much I can fit in my own compost heaps. Quote
Guest Nordkurve Posted March 30, 2020 Posted March 30, 2020 16 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said: The contagiousness of this thing means whatever you do in a shared house you're highly highly unlikely not to pass it on. Its airborne. In enclosed spaces people sitting 10M away from where an infected person sat on a bus got it even when the person had got off the bus 30 minutes earlier. People do what they have to but there is no way to really reduce the risks inside a property or doesn't seem to be looking at how easily it spreads. According to the WHO it is NOT Airborne. Quote
only1swanny Posted March 30, 2020 Posted March 30, 2020 15 minutes ago, royal white said: Fully agree but I’m sure a major problem with tradesman is people not wanting them in their homes? Would a decorator for example, who mainly earns from painting and decorating peoples houses, be better off getting a job rather than waiting for a grant? I don’t know the answer just thinking of options. That is one side to it, I know a lot of carpet cleaners have jumped on the bandwagon of fogging.. I know trading standards will more than likely get involved with them all at some point Quote
Guest Posted March 30, 2020 Posted March 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, Nordkurve said: According to the WHO it is NOT Airborne. Yeah sorry I mean it is contracted from the air via droplets. Not just surfaces. Whilst not technically "airborne" it doesn't require contact with shared surfaces is what I mean... Quote
Ani Posted March 30, 2020 Posted March 30, 2020 1 hour ago, peelyfeet said: I employ myself Traf - there's 1 person in my business. I'm not classed as self employed because I'm a Ltd company. I have to be a Ltd company in my line of work. Are a director of this business ? Taking your income as dividends ? Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted March 30, 2020 Posted March 30, 2020 My neighbour who was taken away in an ambulance has passed away. Was told it wasn't CV at the time, but not so sure. Another wanderer gone. God bless. Quote
HomerJay Posted March 30, 2020 Posted March 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, Ani said: Are a director of this business ? Taking your income as dividends ? what are you insinuating my right honourable friend? Quote
Casino Posted March 30, 2020 Posted March 30, 2020 2 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Painters and decorators aren't supposed to come into your home. You can buy it and do it yourself. Seems many places going click and collect so no need to go in places and get close to folk. I know, but youre not supposed to be leaving your house Cept for exercise, food and work Quote
Rudy Posted March 30, 2020 Author Posted March 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: My neighbour who was taken away in an ambulance has passed away. Was told it wasn't CV at the time, but not so sure. Another wanderer gone. God bless. Very sad. My condolences. Quote
Escobarp Posted March 30, 2020 Posted March 30, 2020 12 minutes ago, Nordkurve said: According to the WHO it is NOT Airborne. Correct. I’ve watched something on it today and they confirmed it isn’t airborne. So not sure why someone would make such a claim and profess to be an expert ? Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted March 30, 2020 Posted March 30, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Casino said: I know, but youre not supposed to be leaving your house Cept for exercise, food and work Get them to deliver. Or walk to the store? Edited March 30, 2020 by Tonge moor green jacket Quote
Casino Posted March 30, 2020 Posted March 30, 2020 2 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Painters and decorators aren't supposed to come into your home. Fella who lives near me is still going out to work Suppose he could be on refurbs or business premises Good luck to him, anyway It cant be easy Quote
Escobarp Posted March 30, 2020 Posted March 30, 2020 7 minutes ago, Ani said: Are a director of this business ? Taking your income as dividends ? Thus avoiding Employer and employee national insurance payments which every single person who takes payment via dividends in lieu of salary is doing. Knowingly. Yet want to complain about it when it goes wrong. Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted March 30, 2020 Posted March 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, Escobarp said: Thus avoiding Employer and employee national insurance payments which every single person who takes payment via dividends in lieu of salary is doing. Knowingly. Yet want to complain about it when it goes wrong. A funny one this. Perfectly legal, and as a financial expert on the radio said, ISAs are also a means of tax avoidance, and are perfectly legal. Does seem a bit unjust I have to agree, presumably there is a good reason for it though? Quote
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