tyldesley_white Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 6 minutes ago, jmjhb said: Finally lowered at the WH yea just seen that, took there fucking time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Casino said: All very interesting but it has balls all to do with Kents post You use twitter and you follow their rules If you break the rules, off you pop Pretty sure that was Kents point It has everything to do with Kents post to be fair. If you can gather 80 million followers you can have for more say than many broadcasts with nothing to stop you. My point is, twitter shouldn't be setting the rules with that sort of power, same with Facebook - hence regulation is required. Weve allowed private company's to base their whole.model.on data harvesting and set on parameters on this, they given them license to set their own rules about what they deem to be right and wrong. In future, we'll.look back at this era of SM in the same way as alcohol, we'll end up giving barriers but after the horse has bolted. Its a simple point that people.are missing, as you outline above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 This was an article shared at my old place in the HBR, which sort of highlights the issues of the platforms, with how and why reformation is required and where government intervention is required. https://hbr.org/2020/09/breaking-up-facebook-wont-fix-social-media Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 1 hour ago, tyldesley_white said: yea just seen that, took there fucking time flag lowerer might have been on furlough 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted January 10, 2021 Author Members Share Posted January 10, 2021 13 minutes ago, Traf said: flag lowerer might have been on furlough 😉 Half mast lives matter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 flag furlougherer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duck Egg Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Not in Crawley said: It has everything to do with Kents post to be fair. If you can gather 80 million followers you can have for more say than many broadcasts with nothing to stop you. My point is, twitter shouldn't be setting the rules with that sort of power, same with Facebook - hence regulation is required. Weve allowed private company's to base their whole.model.on data harvesting and set on parameters on this, they given them license to set their own rules about what they deem to be right and wrong. In future, we'll.look back at this era of SM in the same way as alcohol, we'll end up giving barriers but after the horse has bolted. Its a simple point that people.are missing, as you outline above. I'm definitely missing your point. New company starts up promoting social media platform. It has to have rules that reflect the law. User breaks those rules, user gets kicked off. What's the alternative? Twitter, Facebook, Myspace, Parler etc cant just standby and do nowt while users eg break the law, incite violence, promote discrimination otherwise they'd be culpable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_spencer Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 31 minutes ago, Duck Egg said: I'm definitely missing your point. New company starts up promoting social media platform. It has to have rules that reflect the law. User breaks those rules, user gets kicked off. What's the alternative? Twitter, Facebook, Myspace, Parler etc cant just standby and do nowt while users eg break the law, incite violence, promote discrimination otherwise they'd be culpable. Well Parler were prepared to but Apple and google have pulled the app from their webstores and now Amazon AWS have said they'll no longer host the site on their servers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted January 10, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted January 10, 2021 (edited) If Trump has something important to say to the world, he can hold a Press Conference or do a speech whenever he wants, and every camera within a 50 mile radius would be on him, and it would be broadcast on every news channel. To suggest social media platforms are violating his "free speech" and they should let him say exactly what he wants on their platforms because he's POTUS is fucking ridiculous. It's very simple - if you incite or glorify violence, you get banned. I don't remember anyone screaming about "free speech" a few years ago when Twitter purged hundreds of thousands of ISIS accounts... Edited January 10, 2021 by Cheese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Cheese said: If Trump has something important to say to the world, he can hold a Press Conference or do a speech whenever he wants, and every camera within a 50 mile radius would be on him, and it would be broadcast on every news channel. To suggest social media platforms are violating his "free speech" and they should let him say exactly what he wants on their platforms because he's POTUS is fucking ridiculous. It's very simple - if you incite or glorify violence, you get banned. I don't remember anyone screaming about "free speech" a few years ago when Twitter purged hundreds of thousands of ISIS accounts... Agree, but surely that should apply to everyone and not just who Twitter/Facebook want to? Edited January 11, 2021 by royal white Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted January 11, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted January 11, 2021 11 minutes ago, royal white said: Agree, but surely that should apply to everyone and not just who Twitter/Facebook want to? It does apply to everyone... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Cheese said: It does apply to everyone... Then why do Twitter and Facebook allows 10s of thousands to incite or glorify violence daily? There’s clearly thousands of accounts that they’re happy to ignore which is wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted January 11, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted January 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, royal white said: Then why do Twitter and Facebook allows 10s of thousands to incite or glorify violence daily? There’s clearly thousands of accounts that they’re happy to ignore which is wrong Do you have any examples? Have you reported these accounts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 11 minutes ago, Cheese said: Do you have any examples? Have you reported these accounts? Its a shame you can’t get onto Trumps account as there were literally 1000s Of tweets. There’s still plenty for you to have a look at on his sons and on the POTUS account. As for reporting, someone I follow reported numerous comments on a picture of Greta thunberg on her birthday. People saying she needs to be fucked up the arse with an axe, raped off an African gang etc etc. It’s ended up with his account being suspended yet all the people promoting violence/rape being allowed to stay on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted January 11, 2021 Members Share Posted January 11, 2021 On 08/01/2021 at 18:19, ZicoKelly said: which bit? you'll be telling us next you and the other fan boys weren't touting him for a nobel peace prize because he had tea with Kim Jong Un 'Fan boys' There's an example right there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted January 11, 2021 Members Share Posted January 11, 2021 On 09/01/2021 at 04:56, MickyD said: Don’t bring me into your petty bickering. I happened to quote someone in my reply to them, you sulked because you didn’t want to see what that person had written and you accused me of quoting just to piss you off when in fact, I give absolutely no fucks at all. Once you’d chucked teddy from the pram it was game on for a few weeks and then I got bored. Bullseye! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted January 11, 2021 Members Share Posted January 11, 2021 On 10/01/2021 at 02:45, Spider said: Middle is Krist Novoselic from Nirvana Bottom is Bolty Coincidentally, I once played Bottom at BCGS. Stranger than fiction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted January 11, 2021 Author Members Share Posted January 11, 2021 6 hours ago, royal white said: Then why do Twitter and Facebook allows 10s of thousands to incite or glorify violence daily? There’s clearly thousands of accounts that they’re happy to ignore which is wrong Think it’s more to do with they can’t monitor everything, and why they have the report feature. The eyes of the world aren’t on Dave from Barnsley writing send the buggers back but the POTUS tweets are headline news Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 See the don has had the PGA in 22 taken away from his course. Actions and consequences Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted January 11, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted January 11, 2021 11 hours ago, Rudy said: Half mast lives matter Wer discussed this earlier... It's half maste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 10 hours ago, Duck Egg said: I'm definitely missing your point. New company starts up promoting social media platform. It has to have rules that reflect the law. User breaks those rules, user gets kicked off. What's the alternative? Twitter, Facebook, Myspace, Parler etc cant just standby and do nowt while users eg break the law, incite violence, promote discrimination otherwise they'd be culpable. What law? That's the issue, there is no laws governing social media other than their own rules. They are NOT culpable for what their users write, did you see Zuckerberg in front of the senetae committee, this is the issue. Last summer, all large media companies stopped using Facebook advertising for a short time due to its lack of policy around race hate. Again all independently done, FB issued a statement about working on this issue and the media company's jumped back on. As a friend of mine said, it was the toughest few weeks as where would the spend go, especially when trad media and OOH are being given away as no one is watching/our of their homes. They are monopolies, they are beholden to none but themselves. The eco system that they feed is built on sand, but without them thousands of businesses would be fucked, again which is why the gvts don't step in. This is unhealthy. As I say, Trump has done one good thing, his dragged this issue directly into the mainstream and now there will have to be action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, bolty58 said: Coincidentally, I once played Bottom at BCGS. Stranger than fiction. I couldn't think of a better part, Methought I was enamoured of ass.... Edited January 11, 2021 by Not in Crawley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted January 11, 2021 Author Members Share Posted January 11, 2021 God bless murica Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 20 minutes ago, Rudy said: God bless murica That makes me smile - they should give the thick cunt the electric chair Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted January 11, 2021 Author Members Share Posted January 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, Sweep said: That makes me smile - they should give the thick cunt the electric chair They might have to fly the chair to him but I see your point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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