A View From The Other Side

[gonzo]

3 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Get to fuck, I didn't even mention them.

No need to be dramatic about it.

[Roger_Dubuis]

8 hours ago, RoadRunnerFan said:

The one about Wrexham being a bigger crowd than our local derby's 🤣

Yeah your probably right pal, our current 'local derby' is an even more extreme example of a Johnny come lately nuevo riche arriveste set up than your mob. 

 

Bolton's big rivalry is with United not City

[RoadRunnerFan]

32 minutes ago, Roger_Dubuis said:

Bolton's big rivalry is with United not City

Eccles Rugby's big rivalry is with Swinton not Salford

[itdiddidit?]

38 minutes ago, gonzo said:

They looked pretty well balanced till Lusty bowled in and directed them to this mad house.

If it goes off today I hope he gets nicked for inciting it.

 

Front door going in 6am job and Sky News camera crew in attendance

[Whitesince63]

No problem with Lusty rattling up the opposition fans on their sites and at least he does it politely. Let’s face it we’ve got some knob heads on here like Cheese who do it on their own site! 😁

[matty2094]

Before I forget, can someone do Charlton for us seen as I'll be away? Thanks in advance 🍻

[matty2094]

Really quick round up whilst I've got 10 mins 

Posts taken from https://www.redpassion.co.uk/threads/bolton-away-reaction-thread.124675/

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Happy with point

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Arguably one of, if not the toughest fixtures on paper this season. Take the point and run.

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Fair play I didn't think we'd get anything out of that game. Especially after watching the first 20 mins when they battered us.

With Mullin in the team and at full fitness we win that game.

Bolton will be there or thereabouts. Will we be?

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Good point on the road. Bolton had the better chances but failed to take them, thought Okonkwo's save from the O'Connell block was top notch - as good a save as he's done for us.

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Take that all day. Credit to Parkinson and the players

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Really good point that. I thought Santos was their only weak link. Mullin would have had him for breakfast.

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Superb performance, we got better as the game went on and could have won it.

Arthur is probably the best keeper I've seen us have.

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I just hope all of the newbies to the fan base realise just how good a point this is. We can take some real confidence that we are good enough for this level.

TOC perhaps the weakest link today and perhaps Palmer. We could have nicked it with some more quality up front.

Very good point and a way to round off the weekend!

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basdragon said:

Really good point that. I thought Santos was their only weak link. Mullin would have had him for breakfast.

That big donkey would have been sent off with Mullin around, he'd have played him like a fiddle.

*lots of great point on the road posts*

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A professional determined performance at probably a top three side who let us have it in the first 20 mins especially, That point cannot be underestimated because other teams will go there and get battered, Okonkwo and Revan the standouts for me

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Thought we were nailed on to lose this so that’s a great point at one of the toughest away this season. I was delighted with how toothless they looked against us - barely created anything of note so congrats to the boys in a very good defensive display. If we had a bit more up top we could have nicked it, though Ollie offered not a lot today, Marriott was better - good work rate and movement. 

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Settled into the game after 15 to 20 and out in a solid performance. Showed we belong here. Played a top team at home and getting a point is a fantastic result.

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Overall, it was a fairly uneventful draw, I don't think having better strikers would help. McAtee was fairly invisible, Collins did nothing of note and Dion Charles was the only one threatening

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McAtee did zilch apart from get crunched by McClean a few times.

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Very enjoyable game. Officials a cut above what we normally see.

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I hope the team has a good defense barrister. The team just committed robbery, stole a point.

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Great support - all you could hear was the Red Army

Add Mullin to that team and we’d have caused them some trouble.

Good solid away performance ; much better than a lot of last seasons away days, for once it wasn’t stressful watching on TV

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I thought Bolton was bigger and stronger and better on the ball. They have talent in every position and depth too. How they have so many quality attackers and we have so few baffles me, but this was probably the 2nd most difficult match of the season on paper.
 

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I was a little confused, it sounded like the Racecourse at times, I was like are the cameras and audio near the away end?

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A year since Bolton have failed to score at home in a league game says a lot.

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A very good point away at the Toughsheet. Keep the L2 teams' unbeaten run going and provide a bit of hope for us all if Bolton are one of the best teams this league has to offer.

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I have to believe Bolton is one of the best the league has to offer. They seem like Mansfield but just better everywhere. I wonder if their biggest challenge is not just belief in themselves.

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Away fans were outstanding today. It literally sounded like a home game much of the time.

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Evatt a bit sore about the shirt-pull 'penalty' in the last seconds, but full of praise for our fans at The Toughsheet. Also hinting he thinks Wrexham 'will be up there' this season.

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Excellent point for us and all in front of Bolton's biggest crowd in years to watch little old Wrexham.
We have a very tough first month but at the moment we don't look out of place in League 1

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4nur said:

Is this a confidence builder?

Absolutely. We sign a striker and get Mulls back and we could have nicked that.

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I think a few opposing fans who have thought our ride was a bit of a fad might sit up and take a bit of notice after today and rightly so

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Evatt banging on about xG in his interview as though it means anything. Very creepy fella that one, just uneasy to watch him.

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Sky team going on and on and on about EOC’s shirt pull and whether VAR would have given it. Apparently the ref said to their manager there was pulling on both sides. The guys on Sky disagreed. Bit biased or what, Santos clearly had his hands on EOC in the build up. He was obstructing Marriott all game anyhow so karma!

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Well played wxm
Clearly a cup final for them full house and players trying to gee up their fans for first 20 - not sure they will be that enthusiastic v Wycombe
We are a very good team - well done Mr P
Draw good result
And can the manager of the beehive pub come to wxm - no 10 minutes waits for beers - loads of staff to serve - 10/10

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I was in hospitality today, and was surrounded by Bolton fans in the actual seat - I didn't mention my allegiance but overheard a lot of comments. In amongst the various libellous things they said about McClean, they were not pleased with their performance today but a I heard a couple at the end agree that 'Wrexham will do well in this league'.

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A winner would have been the icing on the cake but I'm just buzzing that we can go to the likes of Bolton and give them their biggest game in decades. Then thoroughly out-sing them.

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Seems mad people think two quality strikers today wouldn’t have changed anything. If we had them today we keep the ball better up top & we cause that donkey at the back for them even more problems and ultimately go closer to getting that goal. Either way, great point, great atmosphere. Roll on (hopefully) new signings this week & we’ll be a match for anyone.

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Thought that was more than just a point today. We showed we belong and can hang with the so called big boys in this league. Not close to our best but took a relatively comfortable point with Okwonko only having to make one good save.

I said all season I'd take staying up this year. What I've seen so far I think we can get into the play off mix. It's been an outstanding start and credit to the manager and players.

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That was a great away point.

Bolton are my idea of the league winners (yes I know Birmingham are binging at the transfer superstore but they need to gel)

Bolton should really have gone up last season- and have strengthened since.

Basically we played a Championship team in waiting today and, first 15 apart, we stood toe-to-toe.

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Bolton played a Championship team in waiting today as well.

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Good solid display against a good team at this level. Enjoyed everything about today (apart from the traffic).

Had a little moment to myself when the whole away end were singing Wrexham is the name, stood there with 4K Wrexham at a cracking stadium that was hosting European football not so long back. Felt great.
**** me we’re back!

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Excellent team performance that - think we really stepped up the levels from last weekend across the board. Quite the captains performance from McClean too - seemed very controlled throughout in front of a hostile crowd. Brilliant atmosphere in the away end too.

Think that will prove to be an excellent point by the end of the season - Bolton are an obviously good team, although some of their final ball was poor today. Did feel like they were trying to play a similar approach to the way Sheff Utd did - side to side to try and pull us around and out of position then try to cut through. Where Sheff Utd had the players to do that, we largely held Bolton at bay.

We probably didn’t deserve to win the game, but there were just a couple of ‘what if’ moments that might have changed things:

• If we still had a second striker on the pitch, fancy they might have been following in on the Fletcher shot that the keeper parried
• Revan plays in McClean who was in the clear after cutting in from the right
• The breakaway at the end, just wonder if Revan could have carried it rather than trying to play that early pass

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Had a lift to the match with two friends who are Bolton season ticket supporters and who agreed we were better as the match moved on . Their biggest crowd for five years . Took an hour to get out of the car park but one exit for 5500 cars somewhat explains that. . They said they had not seen such a noisy supportive away crowd for many years.
We were much better second half and Revan was the star man for me and my Bolton Friends . Max and O'Connell stood out at the back and our defence is much better than last year . Get SPM back and sign a pacey new forward and we have the makings of another promotion squad.

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René Higuita said:

We really are an arrogant fan base arnt we. Bolton’s ‘cup final’, give over.

Totally agree. They are a huge club at L1 level (just flick through their Wiki page- in recent memory FACSF, League Cup final, several years in the Prem, European football etc).

I’ve seen a few posts from people saying we are a bigger club .

Head-wobble time. Arrogant is a fair description TBF.

Bolton’s natural level should be yo-yoing between Prem and Champ like Burnley, Norwich, Fulham etc, so to go there and get a well deserved point shows what we can aspire to.

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Love seeing these big clubs getting rattled by little old Wrexham having the gall to nick a point from them.

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No sane person thinks we're bigger than Bolton but you've gotta enjoy the fact we're still giving clubs their biggest gate in years, even when we're playing teams as big as Bolton.

 

[L/H White]

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Well played wxm
Clearly a cup final for them full house and players trying to gee up their fans for first 20 - not sure they will be that enthusiastic v Wycombe

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A winner would have been the icing on the cake but I'm just buzzing that we can go to the likes of Bolton and give them their biggest game in decades. Then thoroughly out-sing them.

 

fucking hell, do they think they're real madrid? 

i didn't even know wrexham had a team until the deadpool guy took over

[RoadRunnerFan]

Some weapons grade attendnonceing there.

Our 'biggest crowd in years' was a couple of hundred up on the Portsmouth game last year.

Barnsley semis both probably only lower because of both clubs restricting the away sales both years. 

[L/H White]

Just now, RoadRunnerFan said:

Some weapons grade attendnonceing there.

Our 'biggest crowd in years' was a couple of hundred up on the Portsmouth game last year.

Barnsley semis both probably only lower because of both clubs restricting the away sales both years. 

and it's the first home game of the season, so figures always up

[gonzo]

Check this pile of cringe out

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5706101/2024/08/19/watching-wrexham-with-the-fans/

 

 

[L/H White]

The piss head on twitter 'bootlegger' is more famous than the club 

[Johnnyrotten]

1 minute ago, RoadRunnerFan said:

Some weapons grade attendnonceing there.

Our 'biggest crowd in years' was a couple of hundred up on the Portsmouth game last year.

Barnsley semis both probably only lower because of both clubs restricting the away sales both years. 

Nevertheless its the biggest league crowd for however many years, they aren't wrong! (and the fact that the only one's close were a huge promotion game and play offs underlines the fact).  If we went to a biggish ground and that was the case, course it would get mentions here and elsewhere.

Their fans generally seem refreshingly reasonable to be fair, both in the ground and reading comments, and they've been through dire decades upto now so if anyone deserves better fortunes they do.  But I don't go along with the "little old Wrexham", they are now "rich/hyped up" Wrexham, little old Wrexham no longer exist just like on a bigger scale Chelsea of pre-Abramovich no longer exist, and City/Newcastle that we all knew are no more.  

[gonzo]

They literally sang here to see the Wrexham for the whole game

Oh and you've seen the Wrexham now fuck off home.

[RoadRunnerFan]

3 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said:

Nevertheless its the biggest league crowd for however many years, they aren't wrong! (and the fact that the only one's close were a huge promotion game and play offs underlines the fact).  If we went to a biggish ground and that was the case, course it would get mentions here and elsewhere.

Their fans generally seem refreshingly reasonable to be fair, both in the ground and reading comments, and they've been through dire decades upto now so if anyone deserves better fortunes they do.  But I don't go along with the "little old Wrexham", they are now "rich/hyped up" Wrexham, little old Wrexham no longer exist just like on a bigger scale Chelsea of pre-Abramovich no longer exist, and City/Newcastle that we all knew are no more.  

First game of season too as L/H points out. Our attendances have been climbing since the lockdowns finished.

It's technically correct but it's implying we had a load of part timers rock up out of the blue just to watch Wrexham because they are a big deal - that wasn't the case. 

 

[Casino]

We had 1000s more for a game in london just 3 months ago

Does that make oxford a bigger draw

Does it fuck

[ZiggyStardust]

Its the third time in the last 4 home league games that we have had the highest attendance since the PL days.

And the other two had many more Bolton Fans than yesterday.

 

[Johnnyrotten]

35 minutes ago, RoadRunnerFan said:

First game of season too as L/H points out. Our attendances have been climbing since the lockdowns finished.

It's technically correct but it's implying we had a load of part timers rock up out of the blue just to watch Wrexham because they are a big deal - that wasn't the case. 

 

You're completely right, our crowds are superb, and still climbing, we expect 20k home fans for every weekend game now whereas 2 or 3 years ago we'd aim for that in total for a big local derby.  Many don't care but is a source of pride for me and some others, it increases my matchday enjoyment compared to 13 and 14k crowds of not long ago.

But I'm not sure why we'd deny that Wrexham are a bigger pull than Lincoln or Oxford? My son's girlfriend is Greek (lived in UK 7 years) and hasn't watched a game of football live or even on TV in her life.  But she knows all about Wrexham because she watches the Netflix series enthusiastically, no interest in football whatsoever.  If we don't think that level of exposure puts a few hundred on everybody's home gate against them we're kidding ourselves.

[Casino]

They dont sing, 50 of you have come to see wrexham

[Dr. Feelgood]

My next door neighbour went & is convinced that with Mullins they'd have taytored us, 0-3.

I may chuck my hedge trimmings ls in his garden. 

[barrycowdrill]

They’re over the moon they grabbed a point. We’re fuming and see it as 2 points lost. That shows the levels. 
 

just another club whose away game at ours is like a “cup final” akin to Carlisle last season. “Best away support in years” yes because it was at our place. Shows the numbers they usually take in comparison. Majority of them seemed quite level headed before the game. Deluded fucking M0ngs since. 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

If we'd had all our players fit, (or just coming back from injuries) and had new players settled in, we'd have tatered them 6-0!

If I'd picked different numbers, I'd have won the lottery. 

[RoadRunnerFan]

2 hours ago, Johnnyrotten said:

You're completely right, our crowds are superb, and still climbing, we expect 20k home fans for every weekend game now whereas 2 or 3 years ago we'd aim for that in total for a big local derby.  Many don't care but is a source of pride for me and some others, it increases my matchday enjoyment compared to 13 and 14k crowds of not long ago.

But I'm not sure why we'd deny that Wrexham are a bigger pull than Lincoln or Oxford? My son's girlfriend is Greek (lived in UK 7 years) and hasn't watched a game of football live or even on TV in her life.  But she knows all about Wrexham because she watches the Netflix series enthusiastically, no interest in football whatsoever.  If we don't think that level of exposure puts a few hundred on everybody's home gate against them we're kidding ourselves.

I'm not denying that Wrexham are a bigger pull than Lincoln or Oxford. 

I'm asserting that the crowd yesterday wasn't our biggest in years because it was Wrexham. It was down to a combination of factors including factors that constrained numbers in other games eg play off semis in the last two seasons.

Some of the comments in the Wrexham forum, the only come to see the Wrexham chants and the fawning tone of the opening para of that article in the Athletic are getting at it being the biggest crowd because it was Wrexham, it wasn't just that - it was a combination of factors.

If it's our biggest crowd since we dropped out if the prem and it's all down to Wrexham, then that makes them bigger than Leeds, Villa, Sunderland and both Sheffield clubs. 

And for all your sons girlfriends engagement with Wrexham, did she go to the game? I suspect her engagement with it was more likely via TikTok or Insta. 

Edited August 19, 2024 by RoadRunnerFan

[Johnnyrotten]

15 minutes ago, RoadRunnerFan said:

I'm not denying that Wrexham are a bigger pull than Lincoln or Oxford. 

I'm asserting that the crowd yesterday wasn't our biggest in years because it was Wrexham. It was down to a combination of factors including factors that constrained numbers in other games eg play off semis in the last two seasons.

Some of the comments in the Wrexham forum, the only come to see the Wrexham chants and the fawning tone of the opening para of that article in the Athletic are getting at it being the biggest crowd because it was Wrexham, it wasn't just that - it was a combination of factors.

If it's our biggest crowd since we dropped out if the prem and it's all down to Wrexham, then that makes them bigger than Leeds, Villa, Sunderland and both Sheffield clubs. 

And for all your sons girlfriends engagement with Wrexham, did she go to the game? I suspect her engagement with it was more likely via TikTok or Insta. 

Yes I get your point - of course they aren't a bigger draw than the clubs you mentioned, if we'd played Sunderland or Sheff Wed in L1 it would probably have been an even bigger crowd.  The vast majority reason for the huge crowd is what's going on at Bolton, not Wrexham.  They just helped with the extra push and clearly if we'd played Lincoln, even if they'd brought 3.5k, we weren't getting 26k on.

I do think folk are taking the "only come to see" chants far too seriously.  They'll be laughing to themselves while they're singing it, like we did with the "you've only come to see Okocha/Reebok" chants in those times.  The Bolton's a shithole chants etc, it means bugger all and is just something to sing, next folk will be upset they chanted that England fucked up the Euros.

Anyway I'm Wrexham-ed out now, that's the last time I'm giving them a thought till we play em again.

[RoadRunnerFan]

6 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said:

Yes I get your point - of course they aren't a bigger draw than the clubs you mentioned, if we'd played Sunderland or Sheff Wed in L1 it would probably have been an even bigger crowd.  The vast majority reason for the huge crowd is what's going on at Bolton, not Wrexham.  They just helped with the extra push and clearly if we'd played Lincoln, even if they'd brought 3.5k, we weren't getting 26k on.

I do think folk are taking the "only come to see" chants far too seriously.  They'll be laughing to themselves while they're singing it, like we did with the "you've only come to see Okocha/Reebok" chants in those times.  The Bolton's a shithole chants etc, it means bugger all and is just something to sing, next folk will be upset they chanted that England fucked up the Euros.

Anyway I'm Wrexham-ed out now, that's the last time I'm giving them a thought till we play em again.

Fair play Johnny, I'm attendnonced out, it's not something I usually get involved in. 

The chants and the forum stuff don't concern me to be honest all part of the game.

The fawning articles, well that's a bit different - all around the fuckìng "narrative". Absolute noncesense.