Notice Harts not on the promo picture just his lacky just in case it gets this kind of reaction. 

5 minutes ago, Big E said:

It’s like they are business people and not  fantasy saviours people like to pretend. 

This isn't something people have made up about them in some fanciful aura thing, they took a very hard stance against gambling and the like. 

It'd be fine to make whatever business decisions made the most money for the club, except they chose to take a moral stance that they've now apparently reneged on. Not the best look. 

Reading the statement, I reckon it wouldn't have happened if the owner wasn't a Wanderers fan.

1 hour ago, Big E said:

It’s like they are business people and not  fantasy saviours people like to pretend. 

Indeed

I just wish they'd be more up front about it and drop all the community bollocks

2 hours ago, Marc505 said:

 

Can see this blowing up a bit.

Fan putting his money into the club from his successful business is good.

I can see where you may be coming from though ha

1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Reading the statement, I reckon it wouldn't have happened if the owner wasn't a Wanderers fan.

You’d assume he wouldn’t want it.

7 minutes ago, tomski said:

You’d assume he wouldn’t want it.

no, same as Toughsheet

2 hours ago, meanderson93 said:

This isn't something people have made up about them in some fanciful aura thing, they took a very hard stance against gambling and the like. 

It'd be fine to make whatever business decisions made the most money for the club, except they chose to take a moral stance that they've now apparently reneged on. Not the best look. 

There is that they love Bolton wanderers more than anything and it isn’t just a money making thing for them. They get us to the championship and they make decent wedge. Happy with that but they are ruthless business folk. Auntie Sharon is a myth 

Dreams2 have been sponsoring Colls. They are just putting in to their local clubs.

13 minutes ago, Carlos said:

Dreams2 have been sponsoring Colls. They are just putting in to their local clubs.

Indeed.

Can see the juxtaposition of the situation- seemingly different approaches.

As above, they're also business folk.

Not sure how that necessarily means "the myth" as mentioned above- can be both business and community oriented. Indeed they're probably hand in hand.

1 hour ago, Carlos said:

Dreams2 have been sponsoring Colls. They are just putting in to their local clubs.

Is colls still the one or have people gone back to LR now?

LR has not been the one for 30 years.

16 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Indeed.

Can see the juxtaposition of the situation- seemingly different approaches.

As above, they're also business folk.

Not sure how that necessarily means "the myth" as mentioned above- can be both business and community oriented. Indeed they're probably hand in hand.

as are betfred, sure he does lots for the local communities also 

1 hour ago, L/H White said:

as are betfred, sure he does lots for the local communities also 

Betting shops are essentially community centres

1 hour ago, L/H White said:

as are betfred, sure he does lots for the local communities also 

Indeed.

I said at the time I was uneasy with the decision, as I felt it seemed a little over the top etc.

We can all appreciate Sharon's personal story though, and see where that came from.

Two conflicting interests.

Whether this is Hart having influence, or them feeling there is a big enough difference, I've no idea- you'd have to ask them.

Whether BetFred or the new lot do stuff for the community obviously wasn't the first consideration. 

20 hours ago, bwfcuk said:

Notice Harts not on the promo picture just his lacky just in case it gets this kind of reaction. 

It’s certainly a tick in the pro gambling box

On 31/07/2024 at 13:21, Big E said:

It’s like they are business people and not  fantasy saviours people like to pretend. 

Sometimes Sharon the business person has to pop up to remind us that we are actually a business and not just a social club.

It'll be reet.

3 hours ago, FrancisFogarty said:

Sometimes Sharon the business person has to pop up to remind us that we are actually a business and not just a social club.

It'll be reet.

Aye.

The last one did neither, but treated us as a cash cow.

I don't have an issue with this - It's a raffle company not a betting app. Highest entry fee is £1.89 - most are 49p

43 minutes ago, Gonk said:

I don't have an issue with this - It's a raffle company not a betting app. Highest entry fee is £1.89 - most are 49p

I won't be clutching pearls, but I think it's a fair point that this kind of thing can be a gateway to bigger gambling issues in the future

And you can also buy literally thousands of tickets at once

Although it is necessary to answer a question correctly first, so perhaps the thickos are protected against getting drawn into it

I thought the club had already placed lotteries and no-skill paid competitions outside of their betting ban ?

See Golden Goal, Lifeline, Goldline etc.

30 minutes ago, ZiggyStardust said:

I thought the club had already placed lotteries and no-skill paid competitions outside of their betting ban ?

See Golden Goal, Lifeline, Goldline etc.

Not enough to stop them taking 2 x direct debits from me for goldline / BWFC lotteries.

Article in The Sunday Times Business section about the new Sky deal for the EFL.

Neil interviewed and featured at the beginning and end.

Here’s the link for those interested, hopefully not behind a paywall.

https://www.thetimes.com/article/9550262b-3091-4a4a-8d4a-3aff32a85c78?shareToken=da031dfec943da2737760e8d97d998d2

21 minutes ago, TrickyTrotter said:

Article in The Sunday Times Business section about the new Sky deal for the EFL.

Neil interviewed and featured at the beginning and end.

Here’s the link for those interested, hopefully not behind a paywall.

https://www.thetimes.com/article/9550262b-3091-4a4a-8d4a-3aff32a85c78?shareToken=da031dfec943da2737760e8d97d998d2

Cheers for sharing. I’m against it for so many reasons plus I could watch every game anyway if I wanted too.

One thing I think needs to change is the blackout rule. Move that and I think it could work. 

It’s not for me to say £400k is chump change but it seems little for the amount of leverage the club has given.

I also acknowledge myself and likeminded chaps will have played our part in this coming by having access to all games (with being abroad) and think it can work if most games stay at 3pm on Sat.
 

Edited August 4, 20242 yr by tomski

44 minutes ago, tomski said:

Cheers for sharing. I’m against it for so many reasons plus I could watch every game anyway if I wanted too.

One thing I think needs to change is the blackout rule. Move that and I think it could work. 

It’s not for me to say £400k is chump change but it seems little for the amount of leverage the club has given.

I also acknowledge myself and likeminded chaps will have played our part in this coming by having access to all games (with being abroad) and think it can work if most games stay at 3pm on Sat.
 

I'm with you on that. My bigger concern is that the distribution of funding between leagues will reinforce locking teams into the leagues they are currently in so we can only hope that the new regulator can introduce fairer distribution to start getting back to the level playing field scenario. It's been a problem for years and it's not an easy solution.

If it is argued that lower league clubs need a bigger share to remain sustainable (which higher clubs don't necessarily want as the collapse of the lower leagues could increase their own market share) where do you stop? National League? Lower than that? At some point in the pyramid, there has to be an advantage/barrier.