Site Supporter Spider Posted June 27, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted June 27, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, radcliffe white said: Like a knob I put the premium diesel by mistake at our BP garage Fucking hell I bet they rolled a red carpet out as you walked into the shop. Came out wearing a new crown and a fur jacket. ouch. Edited June 27, 2022 by Spider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 31 minutes ago, Spider said: Fucking hell I bet they rolled a red carpet out as you walked into the shop. Came out wearing a new crown and a fur jacket. ouch. Around £2.10 a fucking litre miles away turned back at the pump and slammed it down but the damage was done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted June 27, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted June 27, 2022 2 hours ago, Casino said: Very limited numberswhen it was daughters tanzania year, fortunately If i was a teacher, id want paying to take the kids on a trip abroad Fuck that They don't have to go! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted June 27, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted June 27, 2022 3 hours ago, freds dad said: Tesla running nicely on Octopus 7.5p kWh rate. I thought my 17.64p per kwh with octopus was good. 7.5p is ace. Great deal you've got there What is the efficiency the car- I'm getting up to 3.5m/kwh at the moment- best I've managed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted June 27, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted June 27, 2022 13 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: I thought my 17.64p per kwh with octopus was good. 7.5p is ace. Great deal you've got there What is the efficiency the car- I'm getting up to 3.5m/kwh at the moment- best I've managed. I’ve been working with Octopus for over a year on a project and we’ve launched it now. Have a look at the link below. I may have mentioned this system before but basically we now manufacture a hot water cylinder that is “smart” - it has sensors that constantly monitor how much hot water you have so you only heat your domestic water when you need to. The REALLY smart part though is that the box attached to the cylinder is connected to your electricity supplier. Octopus (and more are now doing this) will reduce the kW price when the grid is overloaded. So on a windy day, or a sunny day for example, the grid has a surplus of energy. The turbines cannot be just switched off so the price of the leccy drops to encourage people to use it. The box detects this drop in price and heats your water. It can also charge your battery (if you have one) for pennies per kW - it’s been know you drop to -4p which means you’re being PAID to take electricity. We are pushing towards making things smarter and reducing costs. It’s happening slowly and the Tory MP I was with last week is all over this kind of thing with Alok Sharma. Theres a long way to go, but once the Small Modular Reactors get going (and get yerselves some shares in rolls Royce as soon as you can), prices will start to drop. For now, and I know I’m a broke record, one of the issues is Brexit. But I can’t be arsed going into it now. Anyway, look at this you cunts: https://www.mixergy.co.uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted June 27, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted June 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, Spider said: I’ve been working with Octopus for over a year on a project and we’ve launched it now. Have a look at the link below. I may have mentioned this system before but basically we now manufacture a hot water cylinder that is “smart” - it has sensors that constantly monitor how much hot water you have so you only heat your domestic water when you need to. The REALLY smart part though is that the box attached to the cylinder is connected to your electricity supplier. Octopus (and more are now doing this) will reduce the kW price when the grid is overloaded. So on a windy day, or a sunny day for example, the grid has a surplus of energy. The turbines cannot be just switched off so the price of the leccy drops to encourage people to use it. The box detects this drop in price and heats your water. It can also charge your battery (if you have one) for pennies per kW - it’s been know you drop to -4p which means you’re being PAID to take electricity. We are pushing towards making things smarter and reducing costs. It’s happening slowly and the Tory MP I was with last week is all over this kind of thing with Alok Sharma. Theres a long way to go, but once the Small Modular Reactors get going (and get yerselves some shares in rolls Royce as soon as you can), prices will start to drop. For now, and I know I’m a broke record, one of the issues is Brexit. But I can’t be arsed going into it now. Anyway, look at this you cunts: https://www.mixergy.co.uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 53 minutes ago, Spider said: I’ve been working with Octopus for over a year on a project and we’ve launched it now. Have a look at the link below. I may have mentioned this system before but basically we now manufacture a hot water cylinder that is “smart” - it has sensors that constantly monitor how much hot water you have so you only heat your domestic water when you need to. The REALLY smart part though is that the box attached to the cylinder is connected to your electricity supplier. Octopus (and more are now doing this) will reduce the kW price when the grid is overloaded. So on a windy day, or a sunny day for example, the grid has a surplus of energy. The turbines cannot be just switched off so the price of the leccy drops to encourage people to use it. The box detects this drop in price and heats your water. It can also charge your battery (if you have one) for pennies per kW - it’s been know you drop to -4p which means you’re being PAID to take electricity. We are pushing towards making things smarter and reducing costs. It’s happening slowly and the Tory MP I was with last week is all over this kind of thing with Alok Sharma. Theres a long way to go, but once the Small Modular Reactors get going (and get yerselves some shares in rolls Royce as soon as you can), prices will start to drop. For now, and I know I’m a broke record, one of the issues is Brexit. But I can’t be arsed going into it now. Anyway, look at this you cunts: https://www.mixergy.co.uk Blah, blah, blah, cut to the chase, man. How much will it cost me? How much will it save me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted June 27, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted June 27, 2022 19 minutes ago, Traf said: Blah, blah, blah, cut to the chase, man. How much will it cost me? How much will it save me? £1,200 £3,500 Send me your card details Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted June 28, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted June 28, 2022 (edited) 10 hours ago, Spider said: I’ve been working with Octopus for over a year on a project and we’ve launched it now. Have a look at the link below. I may have mentioned this system before but basically we now manufacture a hot water cylinder that is “smart” - it has sensors that constantly monitor how much hot water you have so you only heat your domestic water when you need to. The REALLY smart part though is that the box attached to the cylinder is connected to your electricity supplier. Octopus (and more are now doing this) will reduce the kW price when the grid is overloaded. So on a windy day, or a sunny day for example, the grid has a surplus of energy. The turbines cannot be just switched off so the price of the leccy drops to encourage people to use it. The box detects this drop in price and heats your water. It can also charge your battery (if you have one) for pennies per kW - it’s been know you drop to -4p which means you’re being PAID to take electricity. We are pushing towards making things smarter and reducing costs. It’s happening slowly and the Tory MP I was with last week is all over this kind of thing with Alok Sharma. Theres a long way to go, but once the Small Modular Reactors get going (and get yerselves some shares in rolls Royce as soon as you can), prices will start to drop. For now, and I know I’m a broke record, one of the issues is Brexit. But I can’t be arsed going into it now. Anyway, look at this you cunts: https://www.mixergy.co.uk Only a few days ago wind farms were "switched off". The grid couldn't take more so they were left idle. It's all here: https://energyfollower.com/why-do-wind-turbines-stop/ Not sure what you're getting at there. The smart heater is a good move though. As are smart chargers with two way functionality. Lots of small schemes sound comparatively expensive though - how is that likely to compare to the newer ideas of using renewable produced, green hydrogen as a means of storing energy, to be used when wind and solar aren't delivering enough? Edited June 28, 2022 by Tonge moor green jacket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 10 hours ago, Spider said: £1,200 £3,500 Send me your card details Inbox me, hun xx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted June 28, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted June 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Only a few days ago wind farms were "switched off". The grid couldn't take more so they were left idle. It's all here: https://energyfollower.com/why-do-wind-turbines-stop/ Not sure what you're getting at there. The smart heater is a good move though. As are smart chargers with two way functionality. Lots of small schemes sound comparatively expensive though - how is that likely to compare to the newer ideas of using renewable produced, green hydrogen as a means of storing energy, to be used when wind and solar aren't delivering enough? It’s the grid that gets too full and power stations can’t just be switched off. The wind turbines can be but there still ends up being a surplus. Its not a bad thing. Of course, paying people to use electricity isn’t a good business model so don’t expect that to become “a thing” in the future. However, renewable sources are already proving they can provide for us if only we can store the energy. Im not much of a conspiracist, but the fossil people aren’t ready to let go just yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DazBob Posted June 28, 2022 Members Share Posted June 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Spider said: Im not much of a conspiracist, but the fossil people aren’t ready to let go just yet. Bolty & Co? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted June 28, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted June 28, 2022 2 hours ago, Spider said: It’s the grid that gets too full and power stations can’t just be switched off. The wind turbines can be but there still ends up being a surplus. Its not a bad thing. Of course, paying people to use electricity isn’t a good business model so don’t expect that to become “a thing” in the future. However, renewable sources are already proving they can provide for us if only we can store the energy. Im not much of a conspiracist, but the fossil people aren’t ready to let go just yet. That's better. You initially claimed wind turbines can't be switched off. Anyway, for a slightly negative take on all this digitalisation: Father in law was a power supply engineer in his time. Would design complete systems for new development projects. He has a bit of a dim view in that by studying demand to a very close degree, they can control supply much more closely- the effect allows them to keep costs up to an extent. He's a bit of a conspiracist at times, and I think it's bollocks, but I suppose the technology would allow that, should an unscrupulous company chose to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted June 28, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted June 28, 2022 1 hour ago, DazBob said: Bolty & Co? Alfa drivers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DazBob Posted June 28, 2022 Members Share Posted June 28, 2022 26 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Alfa drivers. Nah, they're just dickheads! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big E Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 27 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Alfa drivers. They don’t exist. Just a series of people stood by the side of alfas in the motorway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted June 28, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted June 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: That's better. You initially claimed wind turbines can't be switched off. Anyway, for a slightly negative take on all this digitalisation: Father in law was a power supply engineer in his time. Would design complete systems for new development projects. He has a bit of a dim view in that by studying demand to a very close degree, they can control supply much more closely- the effect allows them to keep costs up to an extent. He's a bit of a conspiracist at times, and I think it's bollocks, but I suppose the technology would allow that, should an unscrupulous company chose to. It’s proven to save money and reduce carbons. Fair point about going to the n-th degree though. Ultimately, whilst power companies are private, they exist purely to make huge profits and they will find a way to do so. If governments are serious about reducing bills and carbons, they need to put power back in total government control on the understanding that profits are capped. Can’t have it all ways Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 15 hours ago, Spider said: I’ve been working with Octopus for over a year on a project and we’ve launched it now. Have a look at the link below. I may have mentioned this system before but basically we now manufacture a hot water cylinder that is “smart” - it has sensors that constantly monitor how much hot water you have so you only heat your domestic water when you need to. The REALLY smart part though is that the box attached to the cylinder is connected to your electricity supplier. Octopus (and more are now doing this) will reduce the kW price when the grid is overloaded. So on a windy day, or a sunny day for example, the grid has a surplus of energy. The turbines cannot be just switched off so the price of the leccy drops to encourage people to use it. The box detects this drop in price and heats your water. It can also charge your battery (if you have one) for pennies per kW - it’s been know you drop to -4p which means you’re being PAID to take electricity. We are pushing towards making things smarter and reducing costs. It’s happening slowly and the Tory MP I was with last week is all over this kind of thing with Alok Sharma. Theres a long way to go, but once the Small Modular Reactors get going (and get yerselves some shares in rolls Royce as soon as you can), prices will start to drop. For now, and I know I’m a broke record, one of the issues is Brexit. But I can’t be arsed going into it now. Anyway, look at this you cunts: https://www.mixergy.co.uk Fucking hell, I thought I had a boring job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted June 28, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted June 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said: Fucking hell, I thought I had a boring job. Go easy on yourself, comparing cravats and practising shining a torch down rows of seats sounds like a thrill ride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted June 28, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted June 28, 2022 4 hours ago, Spider said: It’s proven to save money and reduce carbons. Fair point about going to the n-th degree though. Ultimately, whilst power companies are private, they exist purely to make huge profits and they will find a way to do so. If governments are serious about reducing bills and carbons, they need to put power back in total government control on the understanding that profits are capped. Can’t have it all ways Making profit isn't a dirty thing to do. We all need to make one. The debate between government and private ownership will always be there, and will never be fully resolved. There are pros and cons to both, but to suggest that reducing bills can only happen by state ownership is folly. The very existence of our renewables success is as a result of private companies doing their thing within a regulatory framework. The profits they make benefit all of us with investments. Removing that then puts more of a pension burden back on the state- so where does that funding come from- from state profits. Swings and roundabouts. There is more of an argument for the rail system to be fully nationalised, as competition at any one point in time isn't there- we can only catch one train- but previous state ownership wasn't a rip roaring success neither. Japan has a great rail system and that is completely private. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted June 28, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted June 28, 2022 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Making profit isn't a dirty thing to do. We all need to make one. The debate between government and private ownership will always be there, and will never be fully resolved. There are pros and cons to both, but to suggest that reducing bills can only happen by state ownership is folly. The very existence of our renewables success is as a result of private companies doing their thing within a regulatory framework. The profits they make benefit all of us with investments. Removing that then puts more of a pension burden back on the state- so where does that funding come from- from state profits. Swings and roundabouts. There is more of an argument for the rail system to be fully nationalised, as competition at any one point in time isn't there- we can only catch one train- but previous state ownership wasn't a rip roaring success neither. Japan has a great rail system and that is completely private. Japanese football fans clean the stadium before they leave. We are not the same Edited June 28, 2022 by Spider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted June 28, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted June 28, 2022 Paying billions in dividends and bonuses to private investors is far better than rewarding the people who run the service and making it cheaper for the people who use it. 🙃 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emus wig Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 4 hours ago, Spider said: Go easy on yourself, comparing cravats and practising shining a torch down rows of seats sounds like a thrill ride. You forgot selling choc ices and Kia Ora. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted June 28, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted June 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Spider said: Japanese football fans clean the stadium before they leave. We are not the same Absolutely. They don't moan all the time, have more national pride and get on with it. Korea similar. State nationalisation will arguably drive that even further. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted June 28, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted June 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Absolutely. They don't moan all the time, have more national pride and get on with it. Korea similar. State nationalisation will arguably drive that even further. Moaning is as British as a fish supper. We take pride in it. Don’t take ourselves too seriously. Moaning about this government is different because they’re absolute cunts. And technically I voted them in when Big Dave was in charge. As with Brexit. Moaning is our way of steering things down the middle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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