Meanwhile In England

[kent_white]

Am I allowed to put this one on here? 

Pretty much sums up my feelings on the matter. Some folk definitely need to revisit their priorities! 

 

[royal white]

2 minutes ago, kent_white said:

Am I allowed to put this one on here? 

Pretty much sums up my feelings on the matter. Some folk definitely need to revisit their priorities! 

 

“We are not up for the deaths of a group of people” 🤪🤪

[London Wanderer]

26 minutes ago, bolty58 said:

Mine would be hearing the cunt wail as the cell door is slammed shut.

Free speech Nazi

Get a grip

Thought you supported Libertarianism? 

[bolty58]

2 minutes ago, kent_white said:

Am I allowed to put this one on here? 

Pretty much sums up my feelings on the matter. Some folk definitely need to revisit their priorities! 

 

 

Shite.

I've been working on a chant for outside the Courthouse when "BV" (ABV springs to mind - Arsehole By Volume) is facing justice.

I think I may have nailed it.

"Nick, nick, the racist prick".

That'll do nicely.

[Ani]

1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Her's is a very interesting case.

At first I thought she'd been found guilty, but she hadn't. She pleaded guilty under advice from her solicitor/legal bod.

As did many.

Supposedly, she is looking to appeal as that was bad advice- don't know if she can on that basis.

Perhaps her team thought she would receive a slap on the wrist- maybe a short suspended sentence- for doing so, but in the end was made an example of.

In that regard she wasn't unique- many did plead guilty. The speed of the prosecutions will have played a part and the political will underpinning that process.

Nothing wrong with that per se, but maybe some legal teams should have said, woah- we will challenge the charge.

The former soldier did just that, went to court and was quickly found not guilty, so maybe some were punished for something they may well not have been found guilty of. We'll never know.

Specifically with LC, her state on mind should have been taken into account by her team at the time too.

Not sure they were as effective as they could have been.

All that notwithstanding, her offence surely is of a lower level than Bob Vile Un's.

She pleaded guilty to inciting racial hatred.

She did appeal the sentence and it was rejected as the sentencing guidelines had been followed and her Solicitor showed that she had been properly advised link to appeal below 

She is not a casual Twitter user she had 9000 followers , I have 24 😀, Gudni Bergson 4500, Traf has 306. The post was shared 940 times and seen 310000 times. She claims she removed the post when she calmed down , the other version was that she took it down because she was told it would get her in trouble.

Those defending her ignore the fact that at the same time Farage and others were sharing the lie that the attacker was a recently arrived immigrant on a watch list. Maybe they should be charged alongside her
 

The claim is she only said burn them down for all I care. The full tweet is below, I think the ‘full of the bastards’ line is often ignored. The facts are people like Farage stick their beak into stuff like this but how to stay right side of the line. She did nt. When she gets out she will be a tool of the like of Tice to make a point but let’s be honest he really does not give a fuck about her.

Was her sentence harsh ? It seems so , but it follows sentencing guidelines as upheld in her appeal. https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/Lucy-Connolly-v-The-King.pdf

Have sympathy for her if you want but only once you considered all the facts.

With regards the acts at Glastonbury, I ain’t seen them but they will go through the same process. But if you argue Connolly is a victim ( not you personally here) you can not argue they should be next.

Lot of people who last week slagged off cancel culture seem happy they have been dropped by their agency and had visa revoked, pretty much proving people themselves are ‘two tiered’ 

[London Wanderer]

4 minutes ago, Ani said:

She pleaded guilty to inciting racial hatred.

She did appeal the sentence and it was rejected as the sentencing guidelines had been followed and her Solicitor showed that she had been properly advised link to appeal below 

She is not a casual Twitter user she had 9000 followers , I have 24 😀, Gudni Bergson 4500, Traf has 306. The post was shared 940 times and seen 310000 times. She claims she removed the post when she calmed down , the other version was that she took it down because she was told it would get her in trouble.

Those defending her ignore the fact that at the same time Farage and others were sharing the lie that the attacker was a recently arrived immigrant on a watch list. Maybe they should be charged alongside her
 

The claim is she only said burn them down for all I care. The full tweet is below, I think the ‘full of the bastards’ line is often ignored. The facts are people like Farage stick their beak into stuff like this but how to stay right side of the line. She did nt. When she gets out she will be a tool of the like of Tice to make a point but let’s be honest he really does not give a fuck about her.

Was her sentence harsh ? It seems so , but it follows sentencing guidelines as upheld in her appeal. https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/Lucy-Connolly-v-The-King.pdf

Have sympathy for her if you want but only once you considered all the facts.

With regards the acts at Glastonbury, I ain’t seen them but they will go through the same process. But if you argue Connolly is a victim ( not you personally here) you can not argue they should be next.

Lot of people who last week slagged off cancel culture seem happy they have been dropped by their agency and had visa revoked, pretty much proving people themselves are ‘two tiered’ 

Another spot on summary

What an awful tweet

 And folk on here are downplaying it. Crikey. 

[peelyfeet]

1 hour ago, royal white said:

It is weird when you can tell a crowd to go out and kill your local MP and nothing is done about it yet when someone says kill immigrants it’s a 3 year jail term. 🤷🏻

If you read the court transcripts this wasn't her only offensive tweet. There were multiple before and after. I saw her on twitter a lot. She was a serial knobhead and she showed no remorse when in custody and joked about it on WhatsApp to her mates privately. Her defence will have known this so you'd imagine it further weakened the reasoning behind not going for a not guilty plea. I do think the length of sentence was harsh though when you compare what so horrible bastards get.

[kent_white]

7 minutes ago, royal white said:

“We are not up for the deaths of a group of people” 🤪🤪

That's where we differ. 

I think if you gave a member of BV a loaded gun and put them in a room full of bound up IDF members - there's not a cat in hells chance they would actually pull the trigger. 

Much more likely that this is artistic licence (whether or not you agree that they should be given artistic licence is another question altogether). 

Same way that people singing 'you're going home in a St John's Ambulance' or such like - aren't really intending on sending people home in a St John's Ambulance in reality. 

This is all getting a bit daft now really.

[royal white]

1 minute ago, peelyfeet said:

If you read the court transcripts this wasn't her only offensive tweet. There were multiple before and after. I saw her on twitter a lot. She was a serial knobhead and she showed no remorse when in custody and joked about it on WhatsApp to her mates privately. Her defence will have known this so you'd imagine it further weakened the reasoning behind not going for a not guilty plea. I do think the length of sentence was harsh though when you compare what so horrible bastards get.

Kind of like kneecap then. 🤷🏻

[royal white]

6 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

Another spot on summary

What an awful tweet

 And folk on here are downplaying it. Crikey. 

As bad as the tweet was you decided to add your own words to it to make it worse then lie about the outcome of her tweet. 

Edited July 1, 2025 by royal white

[London Wanderer]

16 minutes ago, royal white said:

“We are not up for the deaths of a group of people” 🤪🤪

We are not for the death of Jews, Arabs or any other race or group of people “ 

was the full sentence 

what part do you find odd ? 

Edited July 1, 2025 by London Wanderer

[royal white]

3 minutes ago, kent_white said:

That's where we differ. 

I think if you gave a member of BV a loaded gun and put them in a room full of bound up IDF members - there's not a cat in hells chance they would actually pull the trigger. 

Much more likely that this is artistic licence (whether or not you agree that they should be given artistic licence is another question altogether). 

Same way that people singing 'you're going home in a St John's Ambulance' or such like - aren't really intending on sending people home in a St John's Ambulance in reality. 

This is all getting a bit daft now really.

I doubt that Lucy one would have set fire to a hotel either. Others would though. And what about kneecap saying go out and kill your local MP? This is after we have had a local  MP killed. 

[royal white]

Just now, London Wanderer said:

We are not for the death of Jews, Arabs or any other race or group of people “ 

was the full sentence 

what part do you find odd ? 

Yes and they’re backing a person who has just been chanting Death to the IDF. The IDF is a group of people. 

[London Wanderer]

4 minutes ago, royal white said:

As bad as the tweet was you decided to add your own words to it to make it worse then lie about the outcome of her tweet. 

Ahhhh so now you’ll criticise it. when the full facts appear 😂 not long ago you were downplaying it.

I didn’t add my own words, it’s her bloody tweet. I said what I thought the tweet had incited. Eg. The extreme violence.

 I get it wrong sometimes too. But reading Ani’s post there only confirms my summary was correct in terms of the damage she incited. No lies there mate. The outcome was clear in communities up & down the country. 

probably time to stop downplaying it with deflecting tangents about what I said. 

[royal white]

1 minute ago, London Wanderer said:

Ahhhh so now you’ll criticise it. when the full facts appear 😂 not long ago you were downplaying it.

I didn’t add my own words, it’s her bloody tweet. I said what I thought the tweet had incited. Eg. The extreme violence.

 I get it wrong sometimes too. But reading Ani’s post there only confirms my summary was correct in terms of the damage she incited. No lies there mate. The outcome was clear in communities up & down the country. 

probably time to stop downplaying it with deflecting tangents about what I said. 

Where did I down play it? Which parts of her community went out and set fire to hotels? Where did she say burn them alive. 

[London Wanderer]

4 minutes ago, royal white said:

Yes and they’re backing a person who has just been chanting Death to the IDF. The IDF is a group of people. 

It’s a military organisation responsible for ethnic cleansing & wanted for war crimes. The Israeli Defence Force.

I’m not agreeing with the comments bdw. The IDF needs major reform rather than being destroyed . Also needs certain leaders arrested.
 

 But BV will just say he was calling for death to the organisation. As will others. You’re really clutching at straws by wanting him prosecuted or license revoked. And as we’ve seen, it’s not the same as Lucy’s case. 
 

BV will say he was talking about the organisation & being satirical . 

You’ll say he meant the people involved in the IDF

Who wins in a court of law?

[London Wanderer]

3 minutes ago, royal white said:

Where did I down play it? Which parts of her community went out and set fire to hotels? Where did she say burn them alive. 

With your excellent deflections 👍 (my opinion) 

where is she from ? As we’ve seen, her large numbers of followers live all over the UK. The riots happened in communities all over the country. Be interesting to see what happened in her county though? Why don’t you find out for me. 
 

She said burn them alive for all I care in the tweet. She also didn’t say anything about getting them out the hotels. So the post implies some would be in the hotel (alive).

Not sure why you’re worrying about how I worded it though. Her charge & heavy sentence has interpreted it in the same way I have. 
 

What a grim lady eh ? One for the volcano ? 

[Not in Crawley]

39 minutes ago, kent_white said:

Am I allowed to put this one on here? 

Pretty much sums up my feelings on the matter. Some folk definitely need to revisit their priorities! 

 

Exactly. See, its not difficult this stuff - but as I say it's all binary now - for and against, pick a side and defend it.

[kent_white]

18 minutes ago, royal white said:

I doubt that Lucy one would have set fire to a hotel either. Others would though. And what about kneecap saying go out and kill your local MP? This is after we have had a local  MP killed. 

I think she was encouraging other people to do it rather than threatening to do it herself wasn't she? Which could have very easily happen given the powder keg as it was at the time. And presumably the court agreed?;

I still think it was over the top as a sentence though. 

Yeah - that Kneecap thing needs looking at as well. Particularly given our recent history. Fucking stupid thing to say. Although I'm going to guess they're not the brightest of lads. 

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

4 minutes ago, kent_white said:

I think she was encouraging other people to do it rather than threatening to do it herself wasn't she? Which could have very easily happen given the powder keg as it was at the time. And presumably the court agreed?;

I still think it was over the top as a sentence though. 

Yeah - that Kneecap thing needs looking at as well. Particularly given our recent history. Fucking stupid thing to say. Although I'm going to guess they're not the brightest of lads. 

It's already been looked at and the authorities have deemed there will be no charge

[royal white]

3 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

With your excellent deflections 👍 (my opinion) 

where is she from ? As we’ve seen, her large numbers of followers live all over the UK. The riots happened in communities all over the country. Be interesting to see what happened in her county though? Why don’t you find out for me. 
 

She said burn them alive for all I care in the tweet. She also didn’t say anything about getting them out the hotels. So the post implies some would be in the hotel (alive).

Not sure why you’re worrying about how I worded it though. Her charge & heavy sentence has interpreted it in the same way I have. 
 

What a grim lady eh ? One for the volcano ? 

You don’t even know where she is from and you’re saying people from her community went out and set fire to hotels. 🤦🏻🤦🏻

 

Having a large number of followers doesn’t make Them fans, it seems a lot of people fall for this. 
 

And she didn’t say burn them alive for all I care. You’re doubling down on it. Again you’re highlighting your difficulty in reading .

[Not in Crawley]

1 minute ago, kent_white said:

I think she was encouraging other people to do it rather than threatening to do it herself wasn't she? Which could have very easily happen given the powder keg as it was at the time. And presumably the court agreed?;

I still think it was over the top as a sentence though. 

Yeah - that Kneecap thing needs looking at as well. Particularly given our recent history. Fucking stupid thing to say. Although I'm going to guess they're not the brightest of lads. 

They're performative 'terrorists' punks, grew up in the safe blanket of the ceasefire, over time rebellions get romanticised, and punk by its nature is anti establishment and for the underdog.

But remember the furore when James Dean Bradfield went on TOTPs in a balaclava? Again to play a song that was about the iconographic nature of society dictatorships - I mean, it was a bit undergraduate commonroom posturing but as a 16 year old that's what you want from your rock stars.

I think their a bit of a clever media messaging group. Bob Vlyan on the other hand I do think have real talent and a real direction for their ire which is articulated well in their music.

[royal white]

6 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

Exactly. See, its not difficult this stuff - but as I say it's all binary now - for and against, pick a side and defend it.

Good, seeing as though you’re a member of the Labour Party then no doubt you will have sent numerous  strongly worded e mails which the post highlights? 

[Sweep]

58 minutes ago, Cheese said:

If the Royal family are so bothered about it, they could always pay for it themselves.

Apparently it was only used twice in the last 12 months....it's still going to run until 2027, and then will be replaced by 2 helicopters.

[Bertie]

52 minutes ago, kent_white said:

Am I allowed to put this one on here? 

Pretty much sums up my feelings on the matter. Some folk definitely need to revisit their priorities! 

 

Nothing wrong or contentious in that. If you put those words in front of anyone you’d hope 100% agreement.

The problem of course, and this is where BV did themselves and the discussion no favours whatsoever was the stupid “death to IDF” chant. Wrong to do that, and any punishment under the law is fair enough.

But these words above? Bang on.  Stick to the issues lads and don’t give anyone a chance to deflect from the atrocity in Gaza.

Edited July 1, 2025 by Bertie