Moderators Casino Posted January 26, 2023 Moderators Share Posted January 26, 2023 Im fucking amazed at some comments in this thread Changing the system today is one thing but not telling folk first stinks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L/H White Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 8 minutes ago, Casino said: Im fucking amazed at some comments in this thread Changing the system today is one thing but not telling folk first stinks Has it been changed tho? The queue function is part & parcel of the system, and usually would only kick in once the traffic spikes. I've seen it before. Same with gig tickets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted January 26, 2023 Moderators Share Posted January 26, 2023 6 minutes ago, L/H White said: Has it been changed tho? The queue function is part & parcel of the system, and usually would only kick in once the traffic spikes. I've seen it before. Same with gig tickets That i dont know but its not happened since Wigan as far as i know And we have had some v high demand games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Fewmin. I’ve been to every away this season except port vale derby fleetwood Mk dons plymouth Forest green Barnsley lincoln shrewsbury cambridge accrington tranmere ipswich piss takers Joking aside I do feel sorry for @desperado and hope you get sorted pal. we really need to get back up a division then back to normal business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted January 26, 2023 Moderators Share Posted January 26, 2023 And maybe demand spiked early as folk were buying at 940 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfc2003 Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Just now, Casino said: And maybe demand spiked early as folk were buying at 940 Seen that mentioned on a few FB and twatter posts but wasn't sure it was people taking piss Also seen quite a few posts people offering tickets for sale - bit shit if people just bought extra tickets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter desperado Posted January 26, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted January 26, 2023 1 hour ago, radcliffe white said: I will keep an ear out for you or do you need a few tickets? Cheers S - very kind of you. Whatever you find let me know. Thanks. I’m putting the word out wherever I can! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolton_blondie Posted January 26, 2023 Members Share Posted January 26, 2023 11 minutes ago, bwfc2003 said: Seen that mentioned on a few FB and twatter posts but wasn't sure it was people taking piss Also seen quite a few posts people offering tickets for sale - bit shit if people just bought extra tickets Nope I'd definately know of a person who got tickets at 0930. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted January 26, 2023 Moderators Share Posted January 26, 2023 11 minutes ago, bwfc2003 said: Seen that mentioned on a few FB and twatter posts but wasn't sure it was people It happened and good luck to them Not their fault Its the only reason i logged in at 950 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc505 Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 22 minutes ago, tomski said: Fewmin. I’ve been to every away this season except port vale derby fleetwood Mk dons plymouth Forest green Barnsley lincoln shrewsbury cambridge accrington tranmere ipswich piss takers Joking aside I do feel sorry for @desperado and hope you get sorted pal. we really need to get back up a division then back to normal business. Hope so, then Derby and Bolton fans can stop sucking eachother off on twitter about attendances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter desperado Posted January 26, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted January 26, 2023 29 minutes ago, tomski said: Fewmin. I’ve been to every away this season except port vale derby fleetwood Mk dons plymouth Forest green Barnsley lincoln shrewsbury cambridge accrington tranmere ipswich piss takers Joking aside I do feel sorry for @desperado and hope you get sorted pal. we really need to get back up a division then back to normal business. 😂 Cheers pal. I’m going to be pecking a few heads between now and 22nd Feb, see what I can find Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted January 26, 2023 Moderators Share Posted January 26, 2023 Could they give bolton the other end? Cops permitting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W.cramp Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Should have only been allowed a ticket when providing your ticket stub from the mauling of torquay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyther_Matt Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 1 hour ago, Zico said: Am guessing that the loyalty functionality is an add on that costs money And the club have decided generally they don't need it It’s already built in, it just takes a bit of thought and effort to put things in place. If there is an additional cost then you’d have to wonder why Barnsley consider it worthwhile and we don’t. It’s something that needs deciding at the top level, but that’s why Hart is paid the big bucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyther_Matt Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 33 minutes ago, Casino said: Could they give bolton the other end? Cops permitting? Depends if that end shares facilities with the main stand, which I suspect it probably does. And of course whether Accrington consider it worth the increase in police bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 26, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted January 26, 2023 Put the home fans in the pubs. Whole ground to us. Sorted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrycowdrill Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 41 minutes ago, Casino said: Could they give bolton the other end? Cops permitting? Think it’s more likely to allocate us any extra in the other seated stand where the benches are. Could easily give us the half near our terrace and they have the other and their main terrace the other end Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted January 26, 2023 Author Share Posted January 26, 2023 2 hours ago, barrycowdrill said: Listen people are only arsed this one time. There’s been no clamour for away tickets at any other away game this or any other season for this competition so let’s not all crack on as though it’s been an ongoing problem. 90% of the time everyone who who wants a ticket gets one regardless of the competition. introducing a loyalty scheme in principle is a good idea. But is it worthwhile when it would only be used 10% of the time? Further more there’s no way it would drive up attendances in this competition as us getting in to this position happens too rarely Fleetwood also sold out in seconds this year so this ain't the first time this season . If demand out strips demand there is always going to be a group of people who miss out, the whole point of a loyalty scheme is to make that process 'fairer' or at least more transparent. Your argument seems to be cost but why introduce the membership scheme if we are not going to use it for something like this too ? All of a sudden today the queue was introduced...why ? Why were so many people logged on early in queues ? Did some people get told by mates there was a different process today ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrycowdrill Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, Ani said: Fleetwood also sold out in seconds this year so this ain't the first time this season . If demand out strips demand there is always going to be a group of people who miss out, the whole point of a loyalty scheme is to make that process 'fairer' or at least more transparent. Your argument seems to be cost but why introduce the membership scheme if we are not going to use it for something like this too ? All of a sudden today the queue was introduced...why ? Why were so many people logged on early in queues ? Did some people get told by mates there was a different process today ? My issue isn’t cost at all. And yes currently there are instances where demand outweighs supply hence me saying 90% of the time there’s no issues. It’s just a reflection of the level we’re operating at. the club have probably looked at it before and that’s why they introduced the away ST scheme. Granted it’s some commitment but the reward for the loyalty is getting first dibs. As a previous purchase history for aways would only come in to play a couple of times a season it would hardly be an embedded process that would run smoothly when it’s activated. Plus, recognising the issues others have mentioned about the online system, in order for another loyalty window to work would require the club to be sending secure links out. Not too savvy on how that would work but guessing the current system doesn’t have that capability / too workload heavy for the ticket office team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter desperado Posted January 26, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted January 26, 2023 56 minutes ago, Leyther_Matt said: It’s already built in, it just takes a bit of thought and effort to put things in place. If there is an additional cost then you’d have to wonder why Barnsley consider it worthwhile and we don’t. It’s something that needs deciding at the top level, but that’s why Hart is paid the big bucks. 10 minutes ago, Ani said: Fleetwood also sold out in seconds this year so this ain't the first time this season . If demand out strips demand there is always going to be a group of people who miss out, the whole point of a loyalty scheme is to make that process 'fairer' or at least more transparent. Your argument seems to be cost but why introduce the membership scheme if we are not going to use it for something like this too ? All of a sudden today the queue was introduced...why ? Why were so many people logged on early in queues ? Did some people get told by mates there was a different process today ? Two really good points. @barrycowdrill I’m interested in carrying on the debate as you genuinely seem like a decent chap on here and I thought you’d have been more sympathetic to loyal fans getting the tickets. We have a ticket expert above in @Leyther_Matt who knows more than most about these things, who tells us loyalty/history info shouldn’t be too difficult/expensive to apply in situations like this. So why on earth allow as you describe a “free for all”? It’s this kind of thinking that has got us in trouble in the past - I think you’re old enough to remember the Middlesbrough debacle? And yes, I take your point about 90% of the time it works. But that 10% is often on massive games where there’s lots of demand and loyal fans are missing out. It’s crazy that it goes from the away season ticket to the “free for all”. There’s no way people on “normal incomes can cover that x 4 for a family. It’s expensive enough doing what I do each season! There has to be stages in between that recognise loyalty. And that’s even before we get on to the no mention of the queuing system, announcing yesterday with no prior warning, 10 o clock starts all the time and additional fees! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted January 26, 2023 Moderators Share Posted January 26, 2023 I did mention that Why do we always get less than a days notice Stick em on sale at 6am or 8pm Neither needs any effott at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrycowdrill Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, desperado said: Two really good points. @barrycowdrill I’m interested in carrying on the debate as you genuinely seem like a decent chap on here and I thought you’d have been more sympathetic to loyal fans getting the tickets. We have a ticket expert above in @Leyther_Matt who knows more than most about these things, who tells us loyalty/history info shouldn’t be too difficult/expensive to apply in situations like this. So why on earth allow as you describe a “free for all”? It’s this kind of thinking that has got us in trouble in the past - I think you’re old enough to remember the Middlesbrough debacle? And yes, I take your point about 90% of the time it works. But that 10% is often on massive games where there’s lots of demand and loyal fans are missing out. It’s crazy that it goes from the away season ticket to the “free for all”. There’s no way people on “normal incomes can cover that x 4 for a family. It’s expensive enough doing what I do each season! There has to be stages in between that recognise loyalty. And that’s even before we get on to the no mention of the queuing system, announcing yesterday with no prior warning, 10 o clock starts all the time and additional fees! Mate, get the issue completely and probably agree that the current process isn’t fit for purpose based on the current numbers we are taking to places. Get the point on the loyalty thing (it’s something I buy in to as part of watching England) the free for all probably should’ve been rephrased as fastest finger first. Either way it’s the same process. I was without a ticket for a couple of hours today but wasn’t that arsed about it. Probably taking in to account the context of the game. If it was an FA cup semi I no doubt would’ve felt different. But where do you draw the line on minimum requirement? Especially with this cup.. that would be a diff requirement than the league no doubt i just think it’s a very workload heavy process for the ticket office with short turnaround time between games and overall we’re not in the position where a scheme like that is needed more than it’s not.. I logged on at 9:50 and was surprised by the queue too. Were 1200 in front of me at that time. Credit for the club for trying to improve it but not much credit for not communicating it out prior. Suppose there’s that argument you would have had people sat there from say 7am. Either way you’ve still got unhappy people Edited January 26, 2023 by barrycowdrill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyther_Matt Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 7 minutes ago, Casino said: I did mention that Why do we always get less than a days notice Stick em on sale at 6am or 8pm Neither needs any effott at all Introduce priority windows and that one sorts itself out. City have it pretty much nailed on that front. Gives you notice to get something sorted within a certain timeframe, and presumably isn’t at 18-24 hours notice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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