gonzo Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Was the lass who was killed actually a lad then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted February 2 Site Supporter Share Posted February 2 2 hours ago, globaldiver said: Similarly, I’m always uneasy that we release the names of arrested/accused before they are proven guilty. Agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted February 2 Site Supporter Share Posted February 2 8 minutes ago, gonzo said: Was the lass who was killed actually a lad then? A funny one this- described as transgender, yet (correctly in my view) referred to as she. Parents say "daughter" too. Back to the meaning of transgender debate again. Leave that though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Aye was just curious thats all, she looks like a proper girl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 10 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: A funny one this- described as transgender, yet (correctly in my view) referred to as she. With all due respect, your view means fuck all. The only person's opinion on that issue that counts is that of the now deceased. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted February 2 Site Supporter Share Posted February 2 5 minutes ago, gonzo said: Aye was just curious thats all, she looks like a proper girl. She does indeed. Confused me somewhat too- why the modern parlance is ambiguous. I always thought a trans person had been through the necessary medical procedures and physically changed. Now it seems it applies to anyone who perhaps sees themselves as another sex, but without undergoing any such interventions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted February 2 Site Supporter Share Posted February 2 3 minutes ago, Traf said: With all due respect, your view means fuck all. The only person's opinion on that issue that counts is that of the now deceased. In your opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Just now, Tonge moor green jacket said: In your opinion. I speak from a position of knowledge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted February 2 Site Supporter Share Posted February 2 3 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: She does indeed. Confused me somewhat too- why the modern parlance is ambiguous. I always thought a trans person had been through the necessary medical procedures and physically changed. Now it seems it applies to anyone who perhaps sees themselves as another sex, but without undergoing any such interventions. Gender, not sex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Popular Post Spider Posted February 2 Site Supporter Popular Post Share Posted February 2 Leave the gender chat for elsewhere. It’s utterly irrelevant here. A teenager with their life in front of them was horrifically murdered and left face down in the mud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 1 hour ago, Spider said: Leave the gender chat for elsewhere. It’s utterly irrelevant here. A teenager with their life in front of them was horrifically murdered and left face down in the mud. Correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted February 2 Moderators Share Posted February 2 4 hours ago, only1swanny said: Name them, Their names will be out in 2 years anyway, let every inmate know who they are to make their lives a misery, and not to trust them. Dear me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted February 2 Moderators Share Posted February 2 In fact, what a tragedy clearly the poor kid who died is the victim here, but theres 3 sets of parents too Cant get my head round it Dreadful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Faustus Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Heartbreaking; the fact that someone so young could be so cruel to anybody scares the shit out of me. Saddened to the core to think what the poor kid went though, and how their parents must feel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 9 hours ago, Spider said: Leave the gender chat for elsewhere. It’s utterly irrelevant here. A teenager with their life in front of them was horrifically murdered and left face down in the mud. Aye apologies for opening it up. Was just curious as all reports said transgender when she was just a girl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted February 3 Site Supporter Share Posted February 3 27 minutes ago, gonzo said: Aye apologies for opening it up. Was just curious as all reports said transgender when she was just a girl. Don’t apologise you massive puff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted February 3 Site Supporter Share Posted February 3 13 hours ago, only1swanny said: Name them, Their names will be out in 2 years anyway, let every inmate know who they are to make their lives a misery, and not to trust them. As an ex-teacher you have a strange outlook on child psyche. Did you encourage your pupils to line up either side of the corridor to kick fuck out of those who you didn’t like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Aldo Raine Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 2 hours ago, gonzo said: Aye apologies for opening it up. Was just curious as all reports said transgender when she was just a girl. She was male but chose to live as a trans girl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blondi Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 It's a very harrowing murder, I live a couple of miles away from one of the murderers (Scarlett) she comes from a lovely family apparently, she has two older brothers who I believe are no trouble whatsoever. The lad (Eddie) very intelligent I believe, he sat next to one of my mate's son's lads at Culcheth High, apparently a nice lad too and my mate's lad said he couldn't believe he was capable of such a thing. All very sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mixu Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 16 hours ago, Duck Egg said: Imagine being a parent to one of the killers. It'll be a life sentence of sorts for them too. Boy Y's Dad is a wrong 'un, allegedly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
globaldiver Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 11 hours ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said: She was male but chose to live as a trans girl Keep gender chat off here, or you might be banned from the match https://freespeechunion.org/football-fan-banned-over-gender-critical-posts-after-stasi-premier-league-investigation/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Aldo Raine Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 14 minutes ago, globaldiver said: Keep gender chat off here, or you might be banned from the match https://freespeechunion.org/football-fan-banned-over-gender-critical-posts-after-stasi-premier-league-investigation/ I saw that earlier But not the thread for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter only1swanny Posted February 4 Site Supporter Share Posted February 4 5 hours ago, globaldiver said: Keep gender chat off here, or you might be banned from the match https://freespeechunion.org/football-fan-banned-over-gender-critical-posts-after-stasi-premier-league-investigation/ But the judge cited that as a secondary reason for the murder. If we (society) can't address that and have a civil debate about it, it becomes a stigma. The more people become accustomed to changed gender identity, the less of an issue it becomes for people who may feel awkward speaking about it. Regardless of which, a young life has been taken by people full of hatred, and shouldn't have happened. It's been just over 4 months for me and I still can't sleep at night and it still seems surreal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Faustus Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Remove gender, you’ve still got a child being led to a secluded spot by ‘friends’ before being brutally attacked and left to die. We warn out kids about stranger danger… can’t imagine the pain her parents must feel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 2 hours ago, Dr Faustus said: We warn out kids about stranger danger We do. But sadly most people are murdered by somebody they know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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