The Managerial Roundabout

[bolty58]

Women Of The Lane, Spurs Pride and Spurs Reach against the appointment of De Zerbi apparently. There is an obvious solution. Go all out to get Emma Hayes or Sarina Wiegman.

[paulhanley]

19 hours ago, bolty58 said:

Women Of The Lane, Spurs Pride and Spurs Reach against the appointment of De Zerbi apparently. There is an obvious solution. Go all out to get Emma Hayes or Sarina Wiegman.

They have appointed him. 

It feels to me like the appointment of a club that imagines itself to be in mid-table safety and wanting to hit the top end of the league next season. It fits in with the general profile of delusions of grandeur. Maybe he will galvanise them enough to save the day. I hope not.

[bolty58]

2 hours ago, paulhanley said:

They have appointed him. 

It feels to me like the appointment of a club that imagines itself to be in mid-table safety and wanting to hit the top end of the league next season. It fits in with the general profile of delusions of grandeur. Maybe he will galvanise them enough to save the day. I hope not.

With you brother. What I do find amusing though is the prospect of him managing to be successful there and the subsequent squirming anguish of these 'fan groups' if he was to prove successful on the pitch. What to do? Stay away or become virtue signalling hypocrites? If the latter is better than even money I would like to get a bet on. Should the situation arise of course. Would be nice to see them experiencing tough shit at the Tough Sheet next season.

[jmjhb]

30 minutes ago, bolty58 said:

With you brother. What I do find amusing though is the prospect of him managing to be successful there and the subsequent squirming anguish of these 'fan groups' if he was to prove successful on the pitch. What to do? Stay away or become virtue signalling hypocrites? If the latter is better than even money I would like to get a bet on. Should the situation arise of course. Would be nice to see them experiencing tough shit at the Tough Sheet next season.

Who? De Zerbi? I think they have legitimate criticisms.  His reputation is over-inflated and he somewhat flatters to deceive

[Duck Egg]

15 hours ago, jmjhb said:

Who? De Zerbi? I think they have legitimate criticisms.  His reputation is over-inflated and he somewhat flatters to deceive

It's his quotes about Mason Greenwood when he was at Marseille, that's upsetting certain fan groups.  It's not really a stick to beat him with imo. He merely answered a question that was only asked to provoke a response over here.  If Spurs go and sign Greenwood now, then theyll have something to moan about! 

[bolty58]

On 01/04/2026 at 06:35, jmjhb said:

Who? De Zerbi? I think they have legitimate criticisms.  His reputation is over-inflated and he somewhat flatters to deceive

Spurs fans always have legitimate criticisms it seems. Hopefully you'll be able to have a face to face chat with a good number of them next season.

[jmjhb]

Hourihane leaving Barnsley at the end of the season

[Johnnyrotten]

When Rosenior gets sacked by Chelsea, he'll have less than 6 years left on his contract.

Hope he manages to find some other employment by 2032 so that his family don't go short.

[Dr. Feelgood]

16 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said:

When Rosenior gets sacked by Chelsea, he'll have less than 6 years left on his contract.

Hope he manages to find some other employment by 2032 so that his family don't go short.

But that contract has a 12 month notice period, which they may pay him, monthly, while he whines about it (think Megson planting tulips & cutting his grass) or pay him as a lump sum.

He won't get 6 years pay in either a lump or a monthly wage.

[DirtySanchez]

18 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said:

When Rosenior gets sacked by Chelsea, he'll have less than 6 years left on his contract.

Hope he manages to find some other employment by 2032 so that his family don't go short.

Apparently Chelsea put a clause in the contract stating he gets the same pay off regardless of how far he is into the contract

[Traf]

19 minutes ago, DirtySanchez said:

Apparently Chelsea put a clause in the contract stating he gets the same pay off regardless of how far he is into the contract

£24m

[DirtySanchez]

42 minutes ago, Traf said:

£24m

Given he got potted at Hull for not making the play offs with one of the best sides in the division, he must have a very good agent to get that deal

[deeane Koontz]

Chelsea have a odd set up

[Rizlar]

Rosenior Sacked !

[DirtySanchez]

41 minutes ago, deeane Koontz said:

Chelsea have a odd set up

Wonder if they think they can make more money on player trading 

Buy youngsters on lengthy contracts, if they turn out to be shit they can sell mid contract with another four years to go and demand a hefty fee, as they still have four years to go

Plus there's also the amelioration to get by PSR or what ever its called  

Bring in Rosenior from a sister club, but probably don't have to pay much in compo as he's just switching roles within the company 

[Whitesince63]

This whole charade and the £24m payout just illustrates perfectly what’s wrong with football in this country since the PL was created. It’s just insane.

[Dr. Feelgood]

3 hours ago, Whitesince63 said:

This whole charade and the £24m payout just illustrates perfectly what’s wrong with football in this country since the PL was created. It’s just insane.

I remember, many years ago, Alan Sugar, when chairman of Spurs, saying he hated new negotiations between the PL and Sky.

He said more money was the inevitable outcome & instead of that money feeding through to the clubs it simply went into the players pockets. If a club was losing money now it would continue to lose money ... just more of it.

He was right too.

[Duck Egg]

2 minutes ago, Dr. Feelgood said:

I remember, many years ago, Alan Sugar, when chairman of Spurs, saying he hated new negotiations between the PL and Sky.

He said more money was the inevitable outcome & instead of that money feeding through to the clubs it simply went into the players pockets. If a club was losing money now it would continue to lose money ... just more of it.

He was right too.

Same with the last TV deal. Trumpeted as more money for the game. Reality was wages increased further and fans were further inconvenienced with ridiculous KO times.

[L/H White]

Arteta can't survive if city go on to win the league 

[Zico]

10 minutes ago, L/H White said:

Arteta can't survive if city go on to win the league 

aye, he's had more than enough chances and keeps spaffing titles they shouldn't be losing

the writing was on the wall when he spent £65M on Gyokeres thinking that'd make a difference

it's not over yet though

but arsenal play two games before city play their next league game, knowing they have to win both, with an away leg in madrid in between

massive pressure on all fronts and they don't like pressure

[Johnnyrotten]

6 hours ago, DirtySanchez said:

Given he got potted at Hull for not making the play offs with one of the best sides in the division, he must have a very good agent to get that deal

I thought at the time he'd over achieved to get Hull to 7th.  The top 6 were Norwich, WBA, Southampton, Leeds, Ipswich and Leicester, all much bigger clubs and Hull finished above Boro and Coventry.

The year after he left they avoided relegation on goal difference (drew on the last day to send Luton down).

[Johnnyrotten]

27 minutes ago, L/H White said:

Arteta can't survive if city go on to win the league 

I've no opinion on Arteta as a top manager, like I don't know how good Pep is because I've only seen him at the richest club in the Prem, sometimes doing well, sometimes failing.  But its quite ironic that if Arteta wins his last few matches this season and they win the Champs league and Prem, he will be a legend, statue erected, lifetime contract and his tactics will be seen as the blueprint for successful teams.

If he loses a couple of games between now and the end of the season he's getting sacked, he's a bottler, his tactics are terrible and maybe some Arsenal fans will never forgive him.

On a lesser scale, SS is at a similar crossroads in his career.

[Zico]

11 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said:

I've no opinion on Arteta as a top manager, like I don't know how good Pep is because I've only seen him at the richest club in the Prem, sometimes doing well, sometimes failing.  But its quite ironic that if Arteta wins his last few matches this season and they win the Champs league and Prem, he will be a legend, statue erected, lifetime contract and his tactics will be seen as the blueprint for successful teams.

If he loses a couple of games between now and the end of the season he's getting sacked, he's a bottler, his tactics are terrible and maybe some Arsenal fans will never forgive him.

On a lesser scale, SS is at a similar crossroads in his career.

top managers consistetly win things, that's basically it

arteta's teams keep throwing away great opportunities, and that's why they are seen as bottlers

pep might not always win titles, but he's won everything over and over again at 3 different clubs

it's like saying you can't judge ferguson because he only ever won things with utd, but sometimes didn't win things

as you say, they may yet walk away with a title and the CL, but we've been here before with them

[e2e4]

1 hour ago, Dr. Feelgood said:

I remember, many years ago, Alan Sugar, when chairman of Spurs, saying he hated new negotiations between the PL and Sky.

He said more money was the inevitable outcome & instead of that money feeding through to the clubs it simply went into the players pockets. If a club was losing money now it would continue to lose money ... just more of it.

He was right too.

didnt he make something like 90% of the sky boxes in the early 90s ?

the cheeky bastard was even rumoured to have leaked rough numbers to them vis-a-vis the bidding of the (first) premier league tv rights. 

not to mention him producing one of the first " tape-to-tape copying " music hifi.