little whitt Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 i thought i read somewhere it takes about 9 hrs to get down to it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 4 hours ago, Spider said: Don’t understand what they think they’ll see through an 8” porthole Probably Romesh Ranganathan, he's fucking everywhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted June 21, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted June 21, 2023 8 minutes ago, Traf said: Probably Romesh Ranganathan, he's fucking everywhere Bravo 👏👏👏😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Carlos Posted June 21, 2023 Moderators Share Posted June 21, 2023 I'd rather chance it out in the open. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiggyStardust Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 11 minutes ago, Traf said: Probably Romesh Ranganathan, he's fucking everywhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 (edited) Whilst on the topic of folk running out of air at the bottom of the drink, this is a cracking film. https://m.imdb.com/title/tt9056818/ Edited June 21, 2023 by royal white Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevieb Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 Who is paying for all these rescue efforts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted June 21, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted June 21, 2023 Just now, stevieb said: Who is paying for all these rescue efforts? Quite sure folk will do it out of humanity. Two billionaires on board though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Winchester White Posted June 21, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted June 21, 2023 1 minute ago, stevieb said: Who is paying for all these rescue efforts? TBF does it matter? It is likely covered by the usual maritime and navy budgets anyway and folk who have the unusual kit required now volunteering to help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter White on Tyne Posted June 21, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted June 21, 2023 Depends where that kit is. Commercially any potential salvor may not be keen to interrupt another salvage job to move their equipment to this job especially if they’re contracted. Even then Demobilisation etc takes time and availability of experts to get to the site. The fact that the whole exploration was maverick and carried out in unclassified craft dilutes any charitable rescue initiative from reputable salvors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted June 21, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted June 21, 2023 3 minutes ago, White on Tyne said: Depends where that kit is. Commercially any potential salvor may not be keen to interrupt another salvage job to move their equipment to this job especially if they’re contracted. Even then Demobilisation etc takes time and availability of experts to get to the site. The fact that the whole exploration was maverick and carried out in unclassified craft dilutes any charitable rescue initiative from reputable salvors. The lives of customers at stake though. They didn't build the craft etc. It's also the humane thing to do. Like rescuing those boys in Thailand in the caves- they probably shouldn't have been taken down there, but rescuers didn't cock a snoop in their direction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter White on Tyne Posted June 21, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted June 21, 2023 The sort of equipment and expertise to perform a 5000 m salvage op is usually only available to international salvage companies. And takes time. Even with humane factor at stake the logistics of such mobilisation is the challenge within the time scale. If the expedition was insured then maybe the access to equipment might have been more available otherwise they’ll need to rely on local craft and volunteer equipment. There will be loads of volunteer salvors but whether they have the required location identification/ depth-diving and retrieval equipment is an unknown. Really hope they get some luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted June 21, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted June 21, 2023 1 minute ago, White on Tyne said: The sort of equipment and expertise to perform a 5000 m salvage op is usually only available to international salvage companies. And takes time. Even with humane factor at stake the logistics of such mobilisation is the challenge within the time scale. If the expedition was insured then maybe the access to equipment might have been more available otherwise they’ll need to rely on local craft and volunteer equipment. There will be loads of volunteer salvors but whether they have the required location identification/ depth-diving and retrieval equipment is an unknown. Really hope they get some luck. Take it this is your field of work? Great info! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Winchester White Posted June 21, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted June 21, 2023 So basically, we are talking about a company with some very basic kit trying to reach the bottom of the Atlantic with little to no safety measures? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted June 21, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted June 21, 2023 3 minutes ago, Winchester White said: So basically, we are talking about a company with some very basic kit trying to reach the bottom of the Atlantic with little to no safety measures? Pretty much. Although they have done it a few times before. I get the impression they probably didn't seriously take into account the amount of stress the previous trips took on the vehicle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Winchester White Posted June 21, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted June 21, 2023 1 minute ago, Cheese said: Pretty much. Although they have done it a few times before. I get the impression they probably didn't seriously take into account the amount of stress the previous trips took on the vehicle. Sounds like the Russians in a way, they don't do even the basic maintenance of subs, ships, planes, helicopters etc and wonder why they all fall apart when used regularly in combat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevieb Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 Not a job for Gazza and his fishing rod and some cans then. Shame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted June 21, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted June 21, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Winchester White said: Sounds like the Russians in a way, they don't do even the basic maintenance of subs, ships, planes, helicopters etc and wonder why they all fall apart when used regularly in combat. Indeed. These are the sorts of reasons we have 'Bureaucracy' and Safety Laws. So this type of shit doesn't happen. It's all well and good being a billionaire who believes in total freedom from regulation, until you're suffocating to death in a giant Pringles tube full of farts. Edited June 21, 2023 by Cheese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Wanderer Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 Heard on the radio that these billionaire subs are also helping with research into non invasive lithium mining. Then read about a Tunisian fisherman who found 15 migrants in his fishing net in a week. Absolutely grim. Happening regularly apparently. Be some story if these guys make it out alive, looking at the scale of that search area though, I can’t see it happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted June 21, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted June 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, London Wanderer said: Heard on the radio that these billionaire subs are also helping with research into non invasive lithium mining. Then read about a Tunisian fisherman who found 15 migrants in his fishing net in a week. Absolutely grim. Happening regularly apparently. Be some story if these guys make it out alive, looking at the scale of that search area though, I can’t see it happening. I reckon they all died within minutes of lost contact - probably due to the Porthole failing, causing them all to be instantaneously crushed. They wouldn't have known much about it. Schrodingers Sub as it stands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Wanderer Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 Just now, Cheese said: I reckon they all died within minutes of lost contact - probably due to the Porthole failing, causing them all to be instantaneously crushed. They wouldn't have known much about it. Schrodingers Sub as it stands. I’ve heard rumours they were attacked by Orcas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 Just now, London Wanderer said: I’ve heard rumours they were attacked by Orcas Libtard Orcas no doubt in the employ of Greenpeace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter White on Tyne Posted June 21, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted June 21, 2023 Plenty of surface vessels and assets and some ROVs due to arrive on site. If they can narrow the area of these supposed signals then maybe the robot vehicles can be deputed but they’re typically used when the target is clearly located and it’s not like hook a duck. Even if they locate the area of the sub the logistics of retrieval at that depth are, all things combined, a losing race against time. It may even be stuck in the wreck of the Titanic herself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Wanderer Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 9 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said: Libtard Orcas no doubt in the employ of Greenpeace. Corbynist Orcas. They’ve been dead active of late. https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2023-05-25/orcas-sink-three-boats-why-killer-whales-started-targeting-luxury-yachts#xj4y7vzkg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 7 minutes ago, London Wanderer said: Corbynist Orcas. They’ve been dead active of late. https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2023-05-25/orcas-sink-three-boats-why-killer-whales-started-targeting-luxury-yachts#xj4y7vzkg I blame Brexit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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