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Lost at the bottom of The Atlantic


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Depends where that kit is. Commercially any potential salvor may not be keen to interrupt another salvage job to move their equipment to this job especially if they’re contracted.  Even then Demobilisation etc takes time and availability of experts to get to the site. The fact that the whole exploration was maverick and carried out in unclassified craft dilutes any charitable rescue initiative from reputable salvors. 

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3 minutes ago, White on Tyne said:

Depends where that kit is. Commercially any potential salvor may not be keen to interrupt another salvage job to move their equipment to this job especially if they’re contracted.  Even then Demobilisation etc takes time and availability of experts to get to the site. The fact that the whole exploration was maverick and carried out in unclassified craft dilutes any charitable rescue initiative from reputable salvors. 

The lives of customers at stake though. They didn't build the craft etc.

It's also the humane thing to do.

Like rescuing those boys in Thailand in the caves- they probably shouldn't have been taken down there, but rescuers didn't cock a snoop in their direction.

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The sort of equipment and expertise to perform a 5000 m salvage op is usually only available to international salvage companies. And takes time. Even with humane factor at stake the logistics of such mobilisation is the challenge within the time scale. If the expedition was insured then maybe the access to equipment might have been more available otherwise they’ll need to rely on local craft and volunteer equipment. There will be loads of volunteer salvors but whether they have the required location identification/ depth-diving and retrieval equipment is an unknown. 
Really hope they get some luck. 

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1 minute ago, White on Tyne said:

The sort of equipment and expertise to perform a 5000 m salvage op is usually only available to international salvage companies. And takes time. Even with humane factor at stake the logistics of such mobilisation is the challenge within the time scale. If the expedition was insured then maybe the access to equipment might have been more available otherwise they’ll need to rely on local craft and volunteer equipment. There will be loads of volunteer salvors but whether they have the required location identification/ depth-diving and retrieval equipment is an unknown. 
Really hope they get some luck. 

Take it this is your field of work? Great info!

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3 minutes ago, Winchester White said:

So basically, we are talking about a company with some very basic kit trying to reach the bottom of the Atlantic with little to no safety measures?

Pretty much. Although they have done it a few times before. I get the impression they probably didn't seriously take into account the amount of stress the previous trips took on the vehicle.

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1 minute ago, Cheese said:

Pretty much. Although they have done it a few times before. I get the impression they probably didn't seriously take into account the amount of stress the previous trips took on the vehicle.

Sounds like the Russians in a way, they don't do even the basic maintenance of subs, ships, planes, helicopters etc and wonder why they all fall apart when used regularly in combat.

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6 minutes ago, Winchester White said:

Sounds like the Russians in a way, they don't do even the basic maintenance of subs, ships, planes, helicopters etc and wonder why they all fall apart when used regularly in combat.

Indeed. These are the sorts of reasons we have 'Bureaucracy' and Safety Laws. So this type of shit doesn't happen. It's all well and good being a billionaire who believes in total freedom from regulation, until you're suffocating to death in a giant Pringles tube full of farts.

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Heard on the radio that these billionaire subs are also helping with research into non invasive lithium mining. 

 Then read about a Tunisian fisherman who found 15 migrants in his fishing net in a week. Absolutely grim. Happening regularly apparently. 

Be some story if these guys make it out alive, looking at the scale of that search area though, I can’t see it happening. 

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2 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

Heard on the radio that these billionaire subs are also helping with research into non invasive lithium mining. 

 Then read about a Tunisian fisherman who found 15 migrants in his fishing net in a week. Absolutely grim. Happening regularly apparently. 

Be some story if these guys make it out alive, looking at the scale of that search area though, I can’t see it happening. 

I reckon they all died within minutes of lost contact - probably due to the Porthole failing, causing them all to be instantaneously crushed. They wouldn't have known much about it. Schrodingers Sub as it stands.

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Just now, Cheese said:

I reckon they all died within minutes of lost contact - probably due to the Porthole failing, causing them all to be instantaneously crushed. They wouldn't have known much about it. Schrodingers Sub as it stands.

I’ve heard rumours they were attacked by Orcas 

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Plenty of surface vessels and assets and some ROVs due to arrive on site. If they can narrow the area of these supposed signals then maybe the robot vehicles can be deputed but they’re typically used when the target is clearly located and it’s not like hook a duck. Even if they locate the area of the sub the logistics of retrieval at that depth are, all things  combined, a losing race against time. It may even be stuck in the wreck of the Titanic herself. 

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