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3 hours ago, Johnnyrotten said:

Not sure Dion's a shoe in is he?  I might be wrong, somebody missed one this season but I can't recall who, or who against.  He did miss in the pen shoot out (like most), and Ipswich last season.  Scored v Stevenage and Derby.

TBH some that he's scored have been very saveable whereas Morley's have 2 or 3 have been convincing.  You'd think Collins would be calm and accurate too.  

On Sheehan missing, I thought he was hobbling at the end after being clattered a few times, and I wonder if his weak pen was affected by being injured.  Just grateful the keeper didn't get it away from the middle of the box, it all worked out well in the end but not sure who takes the next one.

Good point but I think Dion grabs the ball and no one's taking it off him! He's missed 2 this season I think, Blackpool play off and Solihull in the cup. If he misses a big one then he might be under pressure to give them up. Not sure who to though, Morley is the best at pens I'd say but hardly ever on the pitch, so probably Randall after that, he looked keen for last night's one and is seems to have the right confidence and technique for them

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1 hour ago, BeeversLeftPeg said:

I can't remember the last time I saw a team score against us and thinking that it was really good football or that it was an absolute screamer. 

Always seems to be a deflection, a bit of sloppy defending or a massive mistake.

Obviously they were preventable from our point of view, but I would have been happy for us to have scored any of the open play goals Blackpool and Wigan scored against us, they carved us open and the finishing was clinical.

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30 minutes ago, Stig said:

Good point but I think Dion grabs the ball and no one's taking it off him! He's missed 2 this season I think, Blackpool play off and Solihull in the cup. If he misses a big one then he might be under pressure to give them up. Not sure who to though, Morley is the best at pens I'd say but hardly ever on the pitch, so probably Randall after that, he looked keen for last night's one and is seems to have the right confidence and technique for them

If he misses a big one this season (Derby, Pompey etc) it could be too late for it to matter any more!  Its upto IE to have it nailed on who's taking them, none of this fighting for the ball you see with some teams.

If Williams is a decent bet then fair enough but I don't see it myself, he's the first player I'd expect to misdirect a pass from 8 yards into touch, so how he would go on finding the corner of the net under pressure from 12 is anyone's guess.  I'd have confidence in Toal, Collins and Jones having the temperament and technique, but its just guesswork.

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I was going to start a thread about penalties, but it's happened any way.

You'd expect any of the strikers to be a taker-Vic has scored at least one, but can't remember who against.

Sheehan ought to be able to place one too, but last night's effort was poor.

They simply need to practice them!

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3 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

I was going to start a thread about penalties, but it's happened any way.

You'd expect any of the strikers to be a taker-Vic has scored at least one, but can't remember who against.

Sheehan ought to be able to place one too, but last night's effort was poor.

They simply need to practice them!

Do they not practice penalties in training?

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practicings fine but dunno how you replicate having one in the 98th minute

noticed on the pic, rico is looking away!

maybe tomo, hes nice and calm, never looks wound up

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1 minute ago, Casino said:

practicings fine but dunno how you replicate having one in the 98th minute

noticed on the pic, rico is looking away!

maybe tomo, hes nice and calm, never looks wound up

You can't really replicate that tension, but iirc Southgate (or some other manager) had players doing it whilst trying to create some tension. Dunno what he did like.

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Just now, Tonge moor green jacket said:

What do you think?

Strikers may, but not sure about others.

Whatever the case, they need to practice some more!

I don't have any thoughts on it. I assumed you knew something.

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Didn’t realise until my Barnsley mate (taken loads of grief for being 2 nil up and fucking it up! 🤣) pointed out,  They haven’t beaten us in a league game since the 97/98 season and there’s been plenty of games. 

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1 minute ago, desperado said:

Didn’t realise until my Barnsley mate (taken loads of grief for being 2 nil up and fucking it up! 🤣) pointed out,  They haven’t beaten us in a league game since the 97/98 season and there’s been plenty of games. 

Yeah it’s been ages. Why confidence was high as we approached yesterday. Seem hellbent on not breaking negative records then we protect the positive ones😂

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1 minute ago, tomski said:

Yeah it’s been ages. Why confidence was high as we approached yesterday. Seem hellbent on not breaking negative records then we protect the positive ones😂

Shed load of draws mind 

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28 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

You have no thoughts about our terrible record on penalties this season?

None whatsoever. Do we even have a 'terrible record on penalties this season'?

I just assumed you had some inside knowledge on our training schedule as you suggested they didn't practice penalties enough.

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14 minutes ago, Farnywhite said:

Then you had Dan taking a pen in the EFL cup and putting himself out of action for 6 months 

Ha ha!  I know its not a funny incident, especially for Dan, but when you put it like that its great comedy.  The fact that it was the least important penalty ever taken just adds to the farce.

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2 hours ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Evatts preferred 2 is Sheehan and Thomason, and then it’s a toss up between Maghoma and Dempsey…for the 3rd starter… my view is Dempsey is the better option and come the end of the season barring injury he will have played more minutes than Maghoma.. that makes him (Maghoma) the 4th best midfielder at the club, 4th best at a league one club can accurately be described as average. 

It’s excruciating this. You can’t judge a player’s ability by an arbitrary measure of where he fits in our starting line up. Maghoma would be first choice midfielder in half the teams in this league and by that reckoning he’d be the best midfielder at a league 1 club.

I judge his ability on his performances and last night he played really well when he came on. Much better than Dempsey did. His assist for Collins at the weekend was sublime. He showed that he is certainly not bang average.

I’m going to have to check out of this back-and-forth because there is no reasoning with your twisted logic.

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8 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

I was going to start a thread about penalties, but it's happened any way.

You'd expect any of the strikers to be a taker-Vic has scored at least one, but can't remember who against.

Sheehan ought to be able to place one too, but last night's effort was poor.

They simply need to practice them!

Sheehan looked like he was slipping as he kicked it.

FWIW, my guess about the penalty pecking order would be Charles, Morley, Dempsey, Collins before anyone else got a sniff. Those four weren't on the pitch, though.

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12 hours ago, Zico said:

Maybe they do practice in training and they all go in

They will if Coleman is in goal. 
 

 

 

 

please note this is NOT a serious comment. Coleman is doing a lot better than people give him credit for. 

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5 hours ago, Ani said:

They will if Coleman is in goal. 
 

 

 

 

please note this is NOT a serious comment. Coleman is doing a lot better than people give him credit for. 

I've been reading Neville Southall's autobiography (surprisingly interesting, absolutely obsessed with playing football all day every day in his youth for any team at all, no interest in being a pro).  When he got his first pro contract Bury 1980-81 (I saw his debut at Wigan), the manager Jim Iley stopped him being in goal for shooting practise on Fridays, coz he was saving everything and it was affecting their confidence!

I'm with you on Coleman having done OK generally - but maybe the same principle exists between having Baxter and Coleman trying to stop shots at training, the strikers probably feel far more confident going into their games now if they're scoring for fun in training 😃

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