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11 hours ago, Ani said:

It is also pleasant to note Williams was well in box when pen was taken. 

I couldn't celebrate for about 30 seconds after it hit the back of the net, I was convinced the ref would find an infringement, a foul or offside, as the camera just panned to Williams rather than the ref (or that's all I could see anyway).  They'd virtually kicked off before I allowed myself to enjoy the moment properly.

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11 hours ago, DazBob said:

I think it'd be very harsh to lay any blame on Coleman for the first. Thomason has more than enough time and space when the ball is played to him.

2nd goal starts with a loose pass from Ogbeta and then Santos has his pants pulled down. Looked like we'd got away with it until the corner came in...

Agreed, no blame on Coleman.  IEs tactic is the reason that happened, if the ball is played to Tomo in that position half a dozen times a game, he's going to miscontrol at least one, so don't ask the keeper to play it short/central to a player with his back to his opponent.

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6 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said:

I couldn't celebrate for about 30 seconds after it hit the back of the net, I was convinced the ref would find an infringement, a foul or offside, as the camera just panned to Williams rather than the ref (or that's all I could see anyway).  They'd virtually kicked off before I allowed myself to enjoy the moment properly.

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Borderline, but easy to spot the Barnsley lad is the closest by some distance.

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When GT got the ball and the defenders had gone wide, everyone left the Barnsley player on the edge of the area. Between Coleman and Thomason they fucked up. Move on, learn from it. Batter Exeter. Stay second.

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5 hours ago, Stig said:

Ha, excellent description of Jerome. He really did use his experience to make sure that was given. Definitely a pen, but you have to make the ref know.

On the pen, I was surprised Randall gave it up tbh. He grabbed the ball immediately and looked confident. Guess he'll be third in line after Dion and Morley now

Not sure Dion's a shoe in is he?  I might be wrong, somebody missed one this season but I can't recall who, or who against.  He did miss in the pen shoot out (like most), and Ipswich last season.  Scored v Stevenage and Derby.

TBH some that he's scored have been very saveable whereas Morley's have 2 or 3 have been convincing.  You'd think Collins would be calm and accurate too.  

On Sheehan missing, I thought he was hobbling at the end after being clattered a few times, and I wonder if his weak pen was affected by being injured.  Just grateful the keeper didn't get it away from the middle of the box, it all worked out well in the end but not sure who takes the next one.

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43 minutes ago, BeeversLeftPeg said:

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Borderline, but easy to spot the Barnsley lad is the closest by some distance.

odd pic that

you would say its going in

 

keeper one way, ball the other!

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57 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said:

I couldn't celebrate for about 30 seconds after it hit the back of the net, I was convinced the ref would find an infringement, a foul or offside, as the camera just panned to Williams rather than the ref (or that's all I could see anyway).  They'd virtually kicked off before I allowed myself to enjoy the moment properly.

It is like we have VAR. 

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5 hours ago, paulhanley said:

Cold light of day: We've got to tighten up a bit at the back and take a greater proportion of the chances we create. There've been phases of this season when we've been better at both and hopefully we are now entering another one. If that's the case we are in with a genuine chance of championship football next year. Let's replicate that last 30 mins more often! 

This next few weeks is going to be a proper rollercoaster. Buckle yourselves in. 

We're already buckled in, the rollercoaster arguably started when we played Barnsley at home didn't it 😀  Been no let up.

Must admit, I'll be ready for a breather after Derby till Stevenage 13 days later.

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2 hours ago, Traf said:

Penalty and red card?

 

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As clear as they come, I'm still baffled it wasn't given - ironic that they got exactly that at Barnsley last season, would have been a wierd coincidence if it happened again, but it absolutely should have done.

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18 minutes ago, Ani said:

It is like we have VAR. 

If we had VAR they'd still be checking it now, no way would they have allowed it, they'd have found something.

Although Barnsley would have been down to 9 men by then and we'd have already had 2 previous pens.

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1 hour ago, MickyD said:

When GT got the ball and the defenders had gone wide, everyone left the Barnsley player on the edge of the area. Between Coleman and Thomason they fucked up. Move on, learn from it. Batter Exeter. Stay second.

Nah, not having it that Coleman is in any way to blame.

Thomason has more than enough time and space.  He's just too cumbersome when he receives the ball in that instance.   Sheehan receives the ball in much tighter positions regularly time and time again.

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43 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said:

As clear as they come, I'm still baffled it wasn't given - ironic that they got exactly that at Barnsley last season, would have been a wierd coincidence if it happened again, but it absolutely should have done.

Linesman should of seen this… fucking useless they are.

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7 minutes ago, DazBob said:

Nah, not having it that Coleman is in any way to blame.

Thomason has more than enough time and space.  He's just too cumbersome when he receives the ball in that instance.   Sheehan receives the ball in much tighter positions regularly time and time again.

I’d be inclined to not pass to GT in that area in the channels yes, but Sheehan the only player I’d trust in that high risk area in the central part of the pitch on the edge of penalty area and with no cover.

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I really don't think it needs to be over-analysed. It wasn't a pass from our 'keeper that doesn't happen dozens of times every game.  It was simply a mistake from Thomason. 

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8 minutes ago, DazBob said:

I really don't think it needs to be over-analysed. It wasn't a pass from our 'keeper that doesn't happen dozens of times every game.  It was simply a mistake from Thomason. 

In the ground it looked like the ball into Thomason wasn't great and that it might not have been his fault, but on seeing replays, it's definitely on GT this one, but it's not the first and won't be the last such fuck-up we make.

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4 hours ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Good managers pick on consistency, your post was your thoughts on players… the manager obviously has a different opinion than you…just like I’ve a different opinion on Maghoma than you have. 

Given that Evatt has him starting most games, by your logic Maghoma can’t be bang average.

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7 minutes ago, Traf said:

In the ground it looked like the ball into Thomason wasn't great and that it might not have been his fault, but on seeing replays, it's definitely on GT this one, but it's not the first and won't be the last such fuck-up we make.

Exactamundo.

We'll see this happen again.  We play in a risky way where one mistake can be costly ... but that's the way we play.  It's not going to change.

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GT had taken a similar ball a few minutes earlier but it was bobbling and never seemed under control. The irony for the goal was that he took a good first touch.

Evatts comments about playing behind their full backs explain why Coleman kept trying to kick into corners, or even throw it. It was like crown Green bowls with everything running out of play. 
 

There was also a ball in first half were Sheehan looked like he just had to play it 20 yards forward and Collins was into space, instead he turned back and the chance was gone . Evatt went crazy. 

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I can't remember the last time I saw a team score against us and thinking that it was really good football or that it was an absolute screamer. 

Always seems to be a deflection, a bit of sloppy defending or a massive mistake.

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For me the game changed when Cogley went off , Jones moved over & Iredale slotted in on the left. We upped the pace , won second balls & there was plenty of space suddenly available particularly on the right where Collins really got into the game supported well by Jones. Maghoma coming on helped the flow & it would have been a travesty had we not got anything from the game.

GT did fuck up for their first , plus he was on a yellow but what a performance from him that second half given the baggage he was carrying.True grit that lad plenty to learn but probably our most improved player , even though refs seemed to have his card marked. His foul was tame compared to the late one on Sheehan were the referee gave a bounce-up!

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, DazBob said:

I really don't think it needs to be over-analysed. It wasn't a pass from our 'keeper that doesn't happen dozens of times every game.  It was simply a mistake from Thomason. 

That's right. We mostly get away with it, but when we don't we finish up having someone to blame.

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3 hours ago, Casino said:

who scored at blackpool?

i'd agree that on what we have seen, dion is def fallible and morley would be on em if he was on the pitch

Missed: Charles, BOD, Ashworth

Scored: Morley, CMG, Thomo

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1 hour ago, Jol_BWFC said:

Given that Evatt has him starting most games, by your logic Maghoma can’t be bang average.

Evatts preferred 2 is Sheehan and Thomason, and then it’s a toss up between Maghoma and Dempsey…for the 3rd starter… my view is Dempsey is the better option and come the end of the season barring injury he will have played more minutes than Maghoma.. that makes him (Maghoma) the 4th best midfielder at the club, 4th best at a league one club can accurately be described as average. 

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