Whitesince63 Posted January 23 Posted January 23 1 hour ago, VividDreamer said: awful manager I’m not sure I’d say he’s awful but just doesn’t seem a fit for us at this time. Quote
ianofcleveleys Posted January 23 Posted January 23 Witn any of our prospective candidates, particularly ones such as Buckingham, there's not necessarily so much to read into them being potted after having gone up. It tends to be the way of the modern world that, even if a manager has built a squad and system, got a club promoted on it, they get potted at the first sign they might be struggling to keep them up. It's becoming more and more of a challenge to do that as every season goes by, from L1 to Champ, from Champ to Prem Quote
Sweep Posted January 23 Posted January 23 I honestly don't get excited about any of those mentioned so far, but I guess that's the market we're in now. Although, for an incoming manager, we probably do look like quite an attractive proposition at present (compared to others) - with finances as they are, I presume that we're looking for somebody not already employed elsewhere, which leaves us with the uninspiring list that the bookies seem to be concentrating on Quote
Mutley Posted January 23 Posted January 23 I agree - none of the appointments look appealing. give someone from non league a chance instead of meh managers who done stuff at Oxford and that. people need to understand that. m Quote
Popular Post DazBob Posted January 23 Popular Post Posted January 23 I'd say we are a very attractive prospect. Well, as far as a L1 team can be. Usually when a job becomes vacant it's because a team is staring at relegation. We are 3 points off a play-off spot and whilst the squad might not be the most balanced, there are some very good players in there (again, for L1 level). Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 23 Posted January 23 22 minutes ago, desperado said: I don’t think we’ll go down this route and I think there are better candidates out there. But do you really think if he was appointed, it would be just based on 1 game? Get that fella in who was Aston Villa u-21s manager, they played well against us. Do you not think they’d look into history, look into his character, question him and look at evidence on a whole load of scenarios? Sharon isn’t cancelling bond meetings and working 24/7 to appoint someone on the back of 1 game. Yes; it wouldn't be one game! He got them to the play offs, into the final, and won. Some credit there! Quote
desperado Posted January 23 Posted January 23 4 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Yes; it wouldn't be one game! He got them to the play offs, into the final, and won. Some credit there! Absolutely! If you could guarantee he does the same for us as he did at Oxford when appointed, I’d be getting him signed up today! 😂👍 Unfortunately we all know there is no magic formula and he has not had the weight of expectation that is on offer at BWFC. Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 23 Posted January 23 5 minutes ago, desperado said: Absolutely! If you could guarantee he does the same for us as he did at Oxford when appointed, I’d be getting him signed up today! 😂👍 Unfortunately we all know there is no magic formula and he has not had the weight of expectation that is on offer at BWFC. Oh well, he can fuck off then! 😁 Quote
mattbwfc19 Posted January 23 Posted January 23 26 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Yes; it wouldn't be one game! He got them to the play offs, into the final, and won. Some credit there! He did takeover from Manning midway through the season when Oxford were 2nd/3rd, and only just snook in the play-offs on the last day. Granted he did very well in the play-offs, but I wouldn't be overly enthused if we appointed Buckingham. Quote
Zico Posted January 23 Posted January 23 2 minutes ago, mattbwfc19 said: He did takeover from Manning midway through the season when Oxford were 2nd/3rd, and only just snook in the play-offs on the last day. Granted he did very well in the play-offs, but I wouldn't be overly enthused if we appointed Buckingham. I'm coming round to the idea of Schumacher, but I'd rather have kept Evatt than appoint Buckingham Quote
mattbwfc19 Posted January 23 Posted January 23 1 minute ago, Zico said: I'm coming round to the idea of Schumacher, but I'd rather have kept Evatt than appoint Buckingham I'd be happy with Schumacher, probably the best name out there that's not in a job and that's realistic. Quote
ianofcleveleys Posted January 23 Posted January 23 4 minutes ago, mattbwfc19 said: I'd be happy with Schumacher, probably the best name out that's not in a job and that's realistic. 11 minutes ago, mattbwfc19 said: He did takeover from Manning midway through the season when Oxford were 2nd/3rd, and only just snook in the play-offs on the last day. Granted he did very well in the play-offs, but I wouldn't be overly enthused if we appointed Buckingham. If I remember rightly, that night we tonked them 5-0 they'd gone something like 10 games without a win. He pulled them round and they went into the play offs with momentum, often a good thing. Quote
Bryan458 Posted January 23 Posted January 23 4 minutes ago, mattbwfc19 said: I'd be happy with Schumacher, probably the best name out there that's not in a job and that's realistic. Agree with this, seems some people will not be happy until we are playing 'Hoof and Chase', and then they won't be happy again, i think we need three or four players who are a bit more pysical particularly in defence and we will kick on quickly. Quote
Matt Lofthouse Posted January 23 Posted January 23 4 hours ago, Pablo said: Schumacher be a good appointment, massive blue too. 🤣 The booooooos won’t effect him then Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 23 Posted January 23 31 minutes ago, mattbwfc19 said: He did takeover from Manning midway through the season when Oxford were 2nd/3rd, and only just snook in the play-offs on the last day. Granted he did very well in the play-offs, but I wouldn't be overly enthused if we appointed Buckingham. That may be true, though the way fixtures pan out may have had something to do with that. Sometimes a team may have what appears to have been easier games earlier. In the end, he got them promoted, which Evatt didn't. He's far from my ideal candidate, but I won't overly criticise his case neither. We've not yet got a sniff of any preferred candidate, and I suspect they will conduct a thorough process, rather than look at a single favourite. That could still happen quickly of course, we'll have to see. Quote
Ratwhite Posted January 23 Posted January 23 3 minutes ago, L/H White said: Dean Holden the big mover, 6/1 from 33/1 Been on dole for over 12 months. Quote
superkev Posted January 23 Posted January 23 1 hour ago, desperado said: I don’t think we’ll go down this route and I think there are better candidates out there. But do you really think if he was appointed, it would be just based on 1 game? Get that fella in who was Aston Villa u-21s manager, they played well against us. Do you not think they’d look into history, look into his character, question him and look at evidence on a whole load of scenarios? Sharon isn’t cancelling bond meetings and working 24/7 to appoint someone on the back of 1 game. Of course they’re not going to look at one game it was more highlighting the fact that people may think he’s done well just because he beat us in the final. Oxford fans wanted him out at one point. Had a poor record at a team that was joint top for the first part of the season and then scraped into the playoffs. I’m basing it off that and the fact his experience before that came in the form of Mumbai city and managing in New Zealand. He may well be a good coach and prove to be in the future, but in my opinion not for me at this club. Although if he did get the job I’d back him🤣 Quote
Blondi Posted January 23 Posted January 23 5 minutes ago, L/H White said: Dean Holden the big mover, 6/1 from 33/1 I'd have him as a number 2 but not as manager, think we can do better. Quote
desperado Posted January 23 Posted January 23 9 minutes ago, superkev said: Of course they’re not going to look at one game it was more highlighting the fact that people may think he’s done well just because he beat us in the final. Oxford fans wanted him out at one point. Had a poor record at a team that was joint top for the first part of the season and then scraped into the playoffs. I’m basing it off that and the fact his experience before that came in the form of Mumbai city and managing in New Zealand. He may well be a good coach and prove to be in the future, but in my opinion not for me at this club. Although if he did get the job I’d back him🤣 Good response 👍 I pretty much agree with all of that. I’d personally want someone with a bit more on his CV and I don’t just mean written down on his word doc and PPT presentation, a bit more substance/evidence But let’s see. Like you say if it was, we get behind and back him. Quote
VividDreamer Posted January 23 Posted January 23 (edited) Big Sam has ruled himself out of the running but again reiterated his desire to return to the club in some aspect. Hopefully that happens. Edited January 23 by VividDreamer Quote
ianofcleveleys Posted January 23 Posted January 23 13 minutes ago, Blondi said: I'd have him as a number 2 but not as manager, think we can do better. He has operated as a No1 in Championship with Bristol C (after four years as no2) and at Charlton, both of those tricky jobs, Bristol C due to tightening of financial belts, Charlton due to the bonkers instability at that club for the last few years. Might be that a certain person comes in as adviser, a bit like when Freedman had Lennie Lawrence as his side kick. Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 23 Posted January 23 1 minute ago, ianofcleveleys said: He has operated as a No1 in Championship with Bristol C (after four years as no2) and at Charlton, both of those tricky jobs, Bristol C due to tightening of financial belts, Charlton due to the bonkers instability at that club for the last few years. Might be that a certain person comes in as adviser, a bit like when Freedman had Lennie Lawrence as his side kick. Allardean? Quote
Popular Post Lostock Whites Posted January 23 Popular Post Posted January 23 I'd be very happy with Schumacher, arguably a Championship level manager, got Plymouth to 80+ points then 101 points the season after, unprecedented stuff. Even did well with them in the Championship considering how small of a club and budget they had compared to the rest of the league. Look how badly his replacements have done there since. With Stoke in the Championship their fans are in general agreement that he was doing a decent job as they were fighting relegation, he steered them away and the season following only had until September until the owners had some form of disagreement. Anyway, he has shown at our level and above to be more than capable and is 3 years younger than Evatt. Has a philosophy for good attacking football but also has shown key adaptability to tweak things in game and play different formations, 532 or 433. He makes his sides incredibly tough to beat as well as playing exciting football. More than good enough for me would be an excellent appointment. Quote
Dr. Feelgood Posted January 23 Posted January 23 12 minutes ago, VividDreamer said: Big Sam has ruled himself out of the running but again reiterated his desire to return to the club in some aspect. Hopefully that happens. If this is a genuine ambition he should surely be wealthy enough to buy his way onto the Board, if others fancied him around. Not an easy guy to have around, whether pissing in, or pissing out. Quote
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