masi 51 Posted April 5 Posted April 5 24 minutes ago, Arrested development said: The same sonny sharples that couldn't get a game for Torquay? What is he still doing at the club then????? Quote
Lt. Aldo Raine Posted April 5 Posted April 5 10 minutes ago, masi 51 said: What is he still doing at the club then????? Seeing his contract out Quote
masi 51 Posted April 5 Posted April 5 why was he given a contract if his standard is Torquey Reserves You cannot have it both ways The few times i have seen him he has not set the game on fire but again never let us down Quote
Lt. Aldo Raine Posted April 5 Posted April 5 10 minutes ago, masi 51 said: why was he given a contract if his standard is Torquey Reserves You cannot have it both ways The few times i have seen him he has not set the game on fire but again never let us down Perhaps because he's young enough not to count towards the squad limit, will be on relative peanuts, helps the argument there exists a pathway to the first team, and to give him an opportunity to prove himself Quote
masi 51 Posted April 5 Posted April 5 5 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said: Perhaps because he's young enough not to count towards the squad limit, will be on relative peanuts, helps the argument there exists a pathway to the first team, and to give him an opportunity to prove himself All valid and fair points Quote
Stig Posted April 5 Posted April 5 1 hour ago, masi 51 said: All valid and fair points Good response. I'd rather we take a punt on 2/3 youngsters every year than not, given the cost risk is minimal and it shows a pathway for talented young kids with a potential big payoff Quote
only1swanny Posted April 5 Posted April 5 1 hour ago, masi 51 said: What is he still doing at the club then????? Spennymoor fans were quite complimentary about him. But he's still got a lot of development it seems. I'm guessing SS isn't a fan. Not really heard much about Daeshon Lawrence either. Quote
gonzo Posted April 5 Posted April 5 51 minutes ago, only1swanny said: Spennymoor fans were quite complimentary about him. But he's still got a lot of development it seems. I'm guessing SS isn't a fan. Not really heard much about Daeshon Lawrence either. A strawpoll on Spennymoor fans is quite the feet Mr Swan. Quote
only1swanny Posted April 5 Posted April 5 31 minutes ago, gonzo said: A strawpoll on Spennymoor fans is quite the feet Mr Swan. Asked on a post, 2 responded with positives.. I've been stalking all our loanee's this year.. For reference Big Dan isn't doing too well at St Mirren.. Quote
desperado Posted April 6 Posted April 6 I’m hoping the players can take a massive confidence boost from Friday into today’s game. The ideal scenario for me, would be a win with a clean sheet, with an attacking performance we are more used to at home. I think this is achievable. I don’t think we have to massively alter our usual approach. I think the 3CBs would help with this. Like Friday, if we take our chances and demonstrate the defensive solidity we know we possess, then we can make this a great Easter weekend. Quote
Eddie Posted April 6 Posted April 6 They’ve got a bit of form but it’s chalk and cheese home vs away. They’ve drawn 1 and lost 4 of their last 5 away games. Hopefully that continues today! Quote
masi 51 Posted April 6 Posted April 6 (edited) 1 hour ago, desperado said: I’m hoping the players can take a massive confidence boost from Friday into today’s game. The ideal scenario for me, would be a win with a clean sheet, with an attacking performance we are more used to at home. I think this is achievable. I don’t think we have to massively alter our usual approach. I think the 3CBs would help with this. Like Friday, if we take our chances and demonstrate the defensive solidity we know we possess, then we can make this a great Easter weekend. Concerning the 3CBs I would guess 90% are now in favour of this with the current squad. My question to you is do you want those 3CBs playing like they did at Doncaster, Port Vale and quite a few other games or do you want those three playing like they did at Plymouth second half???? Edited April 6 by masi 51 Quote
desperado Posted April 6 Posted April 6 (edited) 40 minutes ago, masi 51 said: Concerning the 3CBs I would guess 90% are now in favour of this with the current squad. My question to you is do you want those 3CBs playing like they did at Doncaster, Port Vale and quite a few other games or do you want those three playing like they did at Plymouth second half???? Venturing into what I said earlier in the Plymouth thread. I don’t think it’s a straightforward choice between two styles. Against Plymouth we were forced to play the way we did. It was far from fool proof. Despite the great effort, the CBs made some mistakes, we gave up chances and we had to let them have the ball in dangerous areas, on another day we could have found ourselves in deficit by one or two goals. I wouldn’t want to see this happen again today. I don’t think there’s a magical style of 3CBs playing one way (not crossing the half way line, not passing sideways, giving up possession) that mitigates defenders making individual mistakes. What I’d like to see, is those 3CBs playing and defending with a bit more confidence now. Let’s not forget too, that the defence hasn’t been too bad this season. Like I said, a win with a clean sheet, playing our usual attacking way at home, with 3CBs contributing by being solid and cutting out individual errors, is IMO realistically achievable. Oh …and taking our chances.. this is the big one. If we can sort that out (our biggest achilles heel this season), I think the defence, like we saw on Friday, can do its job in seeing us to victory. Edited April 6 by desperado Quote
wakey Posted April 6 Posted April 6 43 minutes ago, masi 51 said: Concerning the 3CBs I would guess 90% are now in favour of this with the current squad. My question to you is do you want those 3CBs playing like they did at Doncaster, Port Vale and quite a few other games or do you want those three playing like they did at Plymouth second half???? the half of the half they played as a 3 or the other half of the half when they were in a back 4? I like the fact you think it's our choice and nowt to do with the game situation. Quote
desperado Posted April 6 Posted April 6 3 minutes ago, wakey said: the half of the half they played as a 3 or the other half of the half when they were in a back 4? I like the fact you think it's our choice and nowt to do with the game situation. Interesting listening to SS post match. The 4 at the back we finished with was to make us more solid and give us more protection out wide defensively. While I’m advocating for 3CBS, I’m also comfortable if he goes with a 4 too. It’s worked well at times this year and (particularly at home - only 15 goals conceded) has helped us win points. It’s one of those games where if he goes with a 4 and we don’t win, he’ll get absolute pelters! But if he does and we win, the compliments won’t be as vast! I just think at the moment, while ACD isn’t fit, we’ve lost CBT and Gale & Apter are out of form, the 3 CBs gives us our best chance of getting our better/more in form players onto the pitch, with the width coming from the WBs. Confidence is massive, so getting as many of those players who contributed to Friday on the pitch, is key for me. Quote
Jol_BWFC Posted April 6 Posted April 6 The concern I have with 4 at the back is against a striker who can peel off Johnston and find the acres of room that are in behind him and Conway (who ventures upfield). It’s happened too many times and it did against Plymouth (Bonham made a good save). Obviously there are also issues with 3 at the back, but I’d be looking at the best way to manage Wootton, as he’s a decent striker at this level. Quote
freds dad Posted April 6 Posted April 6 Not forgetting the return of JDC. I really liked him when he was with us and was sorry to see him go. Quote
Stig Posted April 6 Posted April 6 6 minutes ago, Jol_BWFC said: The concern I have with 4 at the back is against a striker who can peel off Johnston and find the acres of room that are in behind him and Conway (who ventures upfield). It’s happened too many times and it did against Plymouth (Bonham made a good save). Obviously there are also issues with 3 at the back, but I’d be looking at the best way to manage Wootton, as he’s a decent striker at this level. 4 or 5 at the back - I'm fine with either. But for me the one must play os Forino due to Wootton in their team. He'll bully everyone else. Quote
masi 51 Posted April 6 Posted April 6 44 minutes ago, wakey said: the half of the half they played as a 3 or the other half of the half when they were in a back 4? I like the fact you think it's our choice and nowt to do with the game situation. of course it is our choice. It is up to Toal and Johnston not so much Foirino if they want to tippy tappy about at the back or tell Bonham to knock it long into the channels. Again one of them can get the ball and try and get it into the Central midfielders It is up to them if they go up for corners or keep our shape at the back When i say them it will be under SS instructions Quote
Jol_BWFC Posted April 6 Posted April 6 7 minutes ago, Stig said: 4 or 5 at the back - I'm fine with either. But for me the one must play os Forino due to Wootton in their team. He'll bully everyone else. Agree with that. I think 3 at the back would suit that, as it allows Johnston and Toal to mop up, if Forino focusses on Wootton. Also allows Johnston to play a little further to the left, so less room in behind him. Quote
desperado Posted April 6 Posted April 6 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Stig said: 4 or 5 at the back - I'm fine with either. But for me the one must play os Forino due to Wootton in their team. He'll bully everyone else. I 80% agree with this. The other 20% of me thinks back to the goal we conceded first game of the season, where Wootton out-muscled Forino to score! It’s just another example of where all our players are fallible and have vulnerabilities. Edited April 6 by desperado Quote
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