Happy Wanderer Posted October 27, 2008 Author Posted October 27, 2008 While having a scout around at Hull City and Phil Brown I noticed this: Coach/Reserve Team Manager: Trevor Morgan Now that would be a good combination of Brown and Morgan, both ex-Wanderers.
L/H White Posted October 27, 2008 Posted October 27, 2008 Don't be silly frank, everyone knows that if we play well or get 3 points like we did against Man United last season and West Ham this season it is down to the players. But if we play badly it is Megson's fault. It is Megson's fault for not trying to change the game at the appropriate time though. Bent knocked in Spurs second yesterday on, 75 minutes. Gardner and Riga, should of been introduced straight after that. Not with 2 minutes to go.
fester58 Posted October 27, 2008 Posted October 27, 2008 megson is simple not the man to lead bolton wanderers, the problem is its gartside's appointment ,the man he wanted before allardyce so unless he bevelopes so bollox's and decides he's fucked up again were stuck with him and his negative tactics. would HATE to see us get dowie or peter reid though
astley bridge Posted October 27, 2008 Posted October 27, 2008 does money not talk in this day and age of the game???
smithills_gent Posted October 27, 2008 Posted October 27, 2008 as far as im concerned, barring disaster (ie bottom at xmas), then megson deserves a full season in charge. if on the last day of the season we have stayed up by the skin of our teeth, or indeed been relegated then yes he should walk at the final whistle. fookin hell,you'd let him relegate us In answer to the question,Allardyce
frank_spencer Posted October 27, 2008 Posted October 27, 2008 martin jol not gonna leave ateam top of the Bundesleiga for a relegation scrap Oh and SG again Allardyce is not the answer. the longer it takes for any legal action to be brought against Panorama the more i'm beliveing the accusations and i don't want that happening at my club again
Superwhite Posted October 27, 2008 Posted October 27, 2008 While having a scout around at Hull City and Phil Brown I noticed this:Coach/Reserve Team Manager: Trevor Morgan Now that would be a good combination of Brown and Morgan, both ex-Wanderers. Plus Neil MacDonald and Sir Jimmy
frank_spencer Posted October 27, 2008 Posted October 27, 2008 wont happen now, had to do it within a year and a day of the programme and the time has elapsed. allardyce will not work with gartside full stop triple fact, with hundreds and thousands on top of the cherry on top of the icing on the cake with knobs on And the only way garty is going is if a new owner come in and buys ED out.
astley bridge Posted October 27, 2008 Posted October 27, 2008 not gonna leave ateam top of the Bundesleiga for a relegation scrap Oh and SG again Allardyce is not the answer. the longer it takes for any legal action to be brought against Panorama the more i'm beliveing the accusations and i don't want that happening at my club again i would take you seriously if i hadn't read some of the dripple you've wrote sticking up for the tw@t formally known as Gary megson
frank_spencer Posted October 27, 2008 Posted October 27, 2008 i would take you seriously if i hadn't read some of the dripple you've wrote sticking up for the tw@t formally known as Gary megson i'm still kinda sticking up for him but he's making it harder and harder for me to stick up for him. ok then why is Allardyce the answer, win me round come on
W_a_n_d_e_r_e_r_s Posted October 27, 2008 Posted October 27, 2008 (edited) What would you think to Steve Coppell plays the sort of football we would want to see and has done a good job at Reading in perspective of the money available to Reading also can spot a bargain e.g Kevin Doyle , Ian wright (crystal palce noticed him in non league football) Stephen hunt (no he is a cu.nt but still a good player) and looking at his win percentage rate on wiki doesn't have a bad record at most clubs do you think he would come to us ? Edited October 27, 2008 by W_a_n_d_e_r_e_r_s
frank_spencer Posted October 27, 2008 Posted October 27, 2008 What would you think to Steve Coppell plays the sort of football we would want to see and has done a good job at Reading in perspective of the money available to Reading also can spot a bargain e.g Kevin Doyle , Ian wright (crystal palce noticed him in non league football) Stephen hunt (no he is a cu<i>nt but still a good player) and looking at his win percentage rate on wiki doesn't have a bad record at most clubs do you think he would come to us ? he'd be a good option but dunno if he'd make the sideways move to us just yet, if they don;t get promoted and we stay up then he might come at the end of the season.
Spider Posted October 27, 2008 Posted October 27, 2008 I don't like having a go at managers, but I just think this man is out of his depth anywhere above 17th in the Prem. Frankly, I'm with Happy and will never ever forgive him for the Lisbon deb?cle. Possibly our only shot in my lifetime of European glory (make no mistake, we could have got to the final not Rangers) snuffed out for the sake of him keeping his job another 12 months. For a club like us, these things are worth the risk, simple as that. Therefore, I've never liked him but have been prepared to give him his 15/20 games. Well, he's proved his own limitations in that respect and it is now time to go. He stubbornly refuses to break up our turgid and lifeless midfield and in the end it will relegate us. Replacement? I'd have no problem with Dowie, Brown or the someone like Southgate who has more to him than he's showing at Boro.
Wigan White Posted October 27, 2008 Posted October 27, 2008 Rudd Gulliett Play some sexy football and watch us go down with a fight
frank_spencer Posted October 27, 2008 Posted October 27, 2008 I don't like having a go at managers, but I just think this man is out of his depth anywhere above 17th in the Prem. Frankly, I'm with Happy and will never ever forgive him for the Lisbon deb?cle. Possibly our only shot in my lifetime of European glory (make no mistake, we could have got to the final not Rangers) snuffed out for the sake of him keeping his job another 12 months. For a club like us, these things are worth the risk, simple as that. Therefore, I've never liked him but have been prepared to give him his 15/20 games. Well, he's proved his own limitations in that respect and it is now time to go. He stubbornly refuses to break up our turgid and lifeless midfield and in the end it will relegate us. Replacement? I'd have no problem with Dowie, Brown or the someone like Southgate who has more to him than he's showing at Boro. see this is one thing that he's doing that gets my goat, if we line up with JOB in for McCann with no thought for change then i'm off to sports soccer for some Donnay gray marlers and digging out my old bed sheet ready for 'Marry Spunkson is a ginger' to be written across it. The 451 isn't working something needs to change be it playing Smolarek just behind elmander or Riga wide right with davies up top with Elmander.
Rembrandt Posted October 27, 2008 Posted October 27, 2008 well... we are twelve months into his tenure.... he has spent close on thirty million.... and we are in exactly the same predicament we were in twelve months ago... I would argue that a better manager could get more from that team.... another manager would possibly play attacking midfielders from the start... another manger would possibly not be happy with securing a point a game.... another manager may possibly have the knowledge and the confidence to mix things up a bit...especially at home... so i think another manager could acheive a hell of a lot more than megson. Nah, Bobcat. Listen to the others on this thread ....... we should just give up now. It's all beyond the club's control. We have absolutely no choice but to grin & bear it & hope for a miracle.
Sluffy Posted October 28, 2008 Posted October 28, 2008 Just to put a little perspective on this - We are currently in seventeenth place on eight points - not good I agree.......but we are within just TWO points of Boro, West Brom, Everton Wigan and Fulham! I've heard it said that Wigan are having a good season. Some are even suggesting Southgate as done a reasonable job and could be a possible replacement for Megson. Others tell me how well Fulham have bought and how well Bullard is playing. I've even heard folk say that we aren't good enough to catch West Brom! We are just a quarter way into the season - one single win could catapult us above all of these teams - who are apparantly having such a wonderful season in comparison to us - up in to a mid-table position! Blame Megson for negative tactics, blame him for uninspired substitutions, blame him for having ginger hair - but to talk about sacking him at this stage in the season (with no obvious sensible replacement managers on the horizon) is, in my opinion simply, ridiculous.
Alf Hartigan Posted October 28, 2008 Posted October 28, 2008 Just to put a little perspective on this - We are currently in seventeenth place on eight points - not good I agree.......but we are within just TWO points of Boro, West Brom, Everton Wigan and Fulham! I've heard it said that Wigan are having a good season. Some are even suggesting Southgate as done a reasonable job and could be a possible replacement for Megson. Others tell me how well Fulham have bought and how well Bullard is playing. I've even heard folk say that we aren't good enough to catch West Brom! We are just a quarter way into the season - one single win could catapult us above all of these teams - who are apparantly having such a wonderful season in comparison to us - up in to a mid-table position! Blame Megson for negative tactics, blame him for uninspired substitutions, blame him for having ginger hair - but to talk about sacking him at this stage in the season (with no obvious sensible replacement managers on the horizon) is, in my opinion simply, ridiculous. the man talks sense and whilst wigan will get well clear,blackburn will be drawn into the dogfight
Horwich Posted October 28, 2008 Posted October 28, 2008 we can talk about this tomorrow....today as it is now nearly 1am
Tombwfc Posted October 28, 2008 Posted October 28, 2008 Just to say, 8 teams changed their manager last season... Chelsea, who are an exceptional case. Brum and Derby got relegated. As for the rest...... Wigan, Bolton, Newcastle, Fulham and Spurs all now occupy five of the bottom six places in the Premierleague. Stability is underated.
bolty58 Posted October 28, 2008 Posted October 28, 2008 Been thinking about this one all day. Much as I think BSA has been totally undervalued by most BWFC fans, purely because they couldn't handle him having an ego (which is what drove him to success in the first place FFS!), the reality is he probably couldn't come back and nor would he want to. Martin Jol would have been superb but Hamburg and the top of the Bundesliga is going to keep him right where he is. Left with up and comers really unless Steve Coppell could be persuaded. Like him. Smart bloke. Peter Taylor might be worth a risk too. Tough one to answer but the one thing I think most of us know is that Gary Megson isn't the right man.
magic legs Posted October 28, 2008 Posted October 28, 2008 We all know that Megson will pick JOB in McCann's place tomorrow. And despite all the gollocks about "we are only 2 points off team x" I am seriously worried about our survival prospects. Its difficult to think of 3 worse teams than us based on what I have seen this season. Midfield sits ways too deep and doesn't support the forwards. Centre backs quite often go to sleep and allow free headers for strikers. We have to change the way we play. Will Megson have the nous to do it? Can't see it happening.
mickbrown Posted October 28, 2008 Posted October 28, 2008 As much as Sam is an arse - I'd have him back. As for his legal action against the BBC, I think I'm correct in saying you have to do it within the year, so it ain't gonna happen. Make of that what you will.
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