gonzo Posted September 30, 2019 Author Share Posted September 30, 2019 41 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Time to move, before house prices suffer? Just need United Utilities to sort their bloody heads out. Slamming 100 new houses next to the estuary won’t help either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted September 30, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted September 30, 2019 8 minutes ago, gonzo said: Just need United Utilities to sort their bloody heads out. Slamming 100 new houses next to the estuary won’t help either Absolutely. Fucking madness. Loads of house building going on North of Preston. Swallowing up former farm land, removing the ability of land to absorb the rain. Just increases run off, and drainage into river system etc. Come on Greta, get to West lancs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayjayoghani Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Any new developments these days will have a very high level of attenuation, SUDS they used to call it. Runoff from site during rainfall, I could piss more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted September 30, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted September 30, 2019 51 minutes ago, jayjayoghani said: Any new developments these days will have a very high level of attenuation, SUDS they used to call it. Runoff from site during rainfall, I could piss more. Yes they do. Wife is employed by the local authority up there and has dealings with some of this shit. Similarly once up rossendale. Many an issue being created. Add up more and more run off and your just shifting problems downstream. Especially given what appears to be more periods of intense rain these days. Add in damage to peat bogs and previous deforestation and rainfall isn't being "held back" enough to help mitigate flood risks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted September 30, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted September 30, 2019 I'd also add that it's not just the housing estates. It's the access roads, schools etc that are needed to service them. Fuck up the water(and carbon capture) systems in the hills, and build on flood plains. Something has to give. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted September 30, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted September 30, 2019 So Greta Thunberg should be challenging local planners? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted September 30, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted September 30, 2019 20 minutes ago, Spider said: So Greta Thunberg should be challenging local planners? Why not, politicians aren't listening. Town centres are dying; why isn't there more conversion into properties, instead loads of old, empty shops and offices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leigh white Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Why not, politicians aren't listening. Town centres are dying; why isn't there more conversion into properties, instead loads of old, empty shops and offices. Move in to the city centre, Ancoats is buzzing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayjayoghani Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 3 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Yes they do. Wife is employed by the local authority up there and has dealings with some of this shit. Similarly once up rossendale. Many an issue being created. Add up more and more run off and your just shifting problems downstream. Especially given what appears to be more periods of intense rain these days. Add in damage to peat bogs and previous deforestation and rainfall isn't being "held back" enough to help mitigate flood risks. No I'm saying the permitted runoff from sites will be tiny. For developments I was involved typically it was 5 litres/sec/hectare. But it depends on the site and flood prone areas it will be less. A hectare of impermeable hardstanding could generate 200-300 litres/sec runoff. So your difference between inflow and outflow or runoff into watercourse is very large so onsite storage or attenuation is inevitable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted October 1, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted October 1, 2019 8 hours ago, jayjayoghani said: No I'm saying the permitted runoff from sites will be tiny. For developments I was involved typically it was 5 litres/sec/hectare. But it depends on the site and flood prone areas it will be less. A hectare of impermeable hardstanding could generate 200-300 litres/sec runoff. So your difference between inflow and outflow or runoff into watercourse is very large so onsite storage or attenuation is inevitable. I get what you are saying, prime examples can be seen at Buckshaw village. Looks good too. Also new surfacing materials also available which may benefit in some situations. The question ultimately, is can the schemes cope with what the future may deliver, and are they as efficient as the land itself prior to being built upon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted October 1, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted October 1, 2019 10 hours ago, leigh white said: Move in to the city centre, Ancoats is buzzing. Bolton isn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_spencer Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 The site up at Fall Birch certainly created drainage issues for those down hill of the development. Taking away natural run off and unmaintained drainage on the unadopted road turned it into a river for a good year or so anytime it rained. A poor old fella had his garden under a foot or so of water. All sorted now after a shit load of new drains etc but the development wasn't going to pay for it at first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted October 1, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted October 1, 2019 Money is an issue too. All these schemes cost and someone has to pay. Went to the garden centre at Bradley Fold on Sunday. Water cooling out of the sloping fields often pools adjacent to the edge of their car park. Such was the level at the weekend, that a stream formed straight through it, preventing access for the butchers to their refrigeration stores outside, and could be seen emerging on the other side onto the road. Stuff like this does have a financial impact even on a localised scale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted October 2, 2019 Members Share Posted October 2, 2019 Bit cold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 1 minute ago, Rudy’s Message said: Bit cold But possibly the only dry day this fortnight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted October 2, 2019 Members Share Posted October 2, 2019 1 minute ago, Traf said: But possibly the only dry day this fortnight Aye. Watching our Maude snap her boots card scraping her windscreen was a highlight as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmjhb Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 On 02/10/2019 at 08:18, Traf said: But possibly the only dry day this fortnight This turned out to be accurate. Endless rain and more yellow warnings tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L/H White Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 This non stop rain is starting to get me down Piss off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted October 11, 2019 Members Share Posted October 11, 2019 2 hours ago, L/H White said: This non stop rain is starting to get me down Piss off I wouldn’t advise looking at the forecast then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmjhb Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 49 minutes ago, Rudy’s Message said: I wouldn’t advise looking at the forecast then One says it's going to rain every day this month, and another has 5 dry days over the next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted October 11, 2019 Members Share Posted October 11, 2019 6 minutes ago, jmjhb said: One says it's going to rain every day this month, and another has 5 dry days over the next week. Snow it is then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deane koontz Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 It's rather warm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted October 25, 2019 Members Share Posted October 25, 2019 If anyone is going to be driving on the M61 today make sure your life insurance is up to date Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted October 25, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted October 25, 2019 1 minute ago, Rudy’s Message said: If anyone is going to be driving on the M61 today make sure your life insurance is up to date Drove down it a short while ago, and you're not wrong. There are some patches up near the Chorley junction that are 6" deep in water. And still there are fucking cocklords in tranny vans and Audis going through it at 80+mph. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted October 25, 2019 Members Share Posted October 25, 2019 11 minutes ago, Spider said: Drove down it a short while ago, and you're not wrong. There are some patches up near the Chorley junction that are 6" deep in water. And still there are fucking cocklords in tranny vans and Audis going through it at 80+mph. Near Rivington services there’s just surface water, if you hit that at 80mph you won’t be making it to the next junction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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