no balls Posted July 17, 2012 Posted July 17, 2012 Is that another of them old fashioned shops with lots of choice that prides themselves on customer service? oh and no went Primani! It's BL1 or whatever they've called it and Reflex. I had a moment near the front half of KITT once when I realised it was probably the same spot I used to try bras on many a year ago, Quote
frank_spencer Posted July 17, 2012 Posted July 17, 2012 I write software, any noggin can tell me when my software is broken. I don't expect them to fix it for me. Maybe I should try the head in the sand approach? It's not a case of head in the sand it's a case of understanding the issues faced by the town and the limitations on what the council can actually do. Quote
DazBob Posted July 17, 2012 Posted July 17, 2012 You tried on a bra sat next to Michael Knight?? Respect. Quote
no balls Posted July 17, 2012 Posted July 17, 2012 It's not a case of head in the sand it's a case of understanding the issues faced by the town and the limitations on what the council can actually do. But Frank, do they listen and engage with folk? Quote
little whitt Posted July 17, 2012 Posted July 17, 2012 It's not a case of head in the sand it's a case of understanding the issues faced by the town and the limitations on what the council can actually do. back in the day Frank 80 % of bolton are terrace houses who paid rates at roughley £100 a year now its at least a grand so were have you spunked all that extre money and there ard 18000 council houses thats some rent each week Quote
frank_spencer Posted July 17, 2012 Posted July 17, 2012 But Frank, do they listen and engage with folk? How do you mean? 'Yes mrs goggins there is an awful lot of empty units' but until the the landlords reduce their rents to attract businesses or we get a developer with funding willing to build in bolton there's sadly not a lot we can do about it.' The council can only source funding for certain things, bath, education, public transport, public realm that kind of stuff what it can't do without private investment or the kind of government grants that dont exist anymore is large scale regeneration projects and that is what's needed in bolton According to a chap at Bluemantle developers are willing to do the work but there's no money out there unless you want to build a supermarket as they're the only ones with any money. Whitt not even per household but if every person (260000) in the borough paid £1000 to the council that's around £2.6m which is sod all in the scheme of the councils annual budget. Quote
no balls Posted July 17, 2012 Posted July 17, 2012 It was a general comment regarding Boltin Council? We are their clients, we pay their wage, yet I doubt very much Joe Public is ever engaged with. Quote
stevieb Posted July 17, 2012 Posted July 17, 2012 Whitt not even per household but if every person (260000) in the borough paid £1000 to the council that's around £2.6m which is sod all in the scheme of the councils annual budget. Its £260m. But as you said not every person in the borough is paying the tax. Quote
frank_spencer Posted July 17, 2012 Posted July 17, 2012 each ward has 3 councillors who have phones and email and regular drop in sesssions. Plus there's area forums, town councils etc there's plenty of engagement. Is there something they don't do that you think they should? Quote
frank_spencer Posted July 17, 2012 Posted July 17, 2012 Its £260m. But as you said not every person in the borough is paying the tax. as diddles would say 'maths fail!' Quote
no balls Posted July 17, 2012 Posted July 17, 2012 each ward has 3 councillors who have phones and email and regular drop in sesssions. Plus there's area forums, town councils etc there's plenty of engagement. Is there something they don't do that you think they should? So we have to go to them? Not very proactive that. If you consider them having a phone and email address is engagement then our definitions differ. Quote
DazBob Posted July 17, 2012 Posted July 17, 2012 So we have to go to them? Not very proactive that. If you consider them having a phone and email address is engagement then our definitions differ. You're not happy with phoning or emailing ... and you can't be arsed to go see them. But you'll happily complain your voice can't/wont be heard? Quote
no balls Posted July 17, 2012 Posted July 17, 2012 You're not happy with phoning or emailing ... and you can't be arsed to go see them. But you'll happily complain your voice can't/wont be heard? . You didn't read my post properly. Quote
no balls Posted July 17, 2012 Posted July 17, 2012 t'would appear so. I have no issue with emailing or phoning but should they not be reaching out in general rather than waiting for a call/mail, The vast majority of those they speak to are probably the same folk week in week out, Get out on the streets of a weekend and ask the public their opinions. Maybe I've got a hair brained idea here but to me that's proactivity. Quote
DazBob Posted July 17, 2012 Posted July 17, 2012 What is the format of these 'regular drop-in sessions' of which Frank speaks? Genuine question. Quote
Sweep Posted July 17, 2012 Posted July 17, 2012 now its at least a grand so were have you spunked all that extre money I reckon he's spent a large chunk of it on Wrestlemania tickets and Hulk Hogan bandanas Quote
Carlos Posted July 17, 2012 Posted July 17, 2012 I've done a check for my councillors, one is the wife of the bloke who pulled the swindle of putting himself top of the list for buying council houses and has a list of businesses longer than this thread. I've got 100% faith they'd give a shit what I thought. Quote
Traf Posted July 17, 2012 Posted July 17, 2012 ... to me that's proactivity. Isn't that a kind of yogurt? Quote
Casino Posted July 17, 2012 Posted July 17, 2012 (edited) the limitations on what the council can actually do. The £1 billion transformation of the town centre can't argue they've not transformed it Edited July 17, 2012 by Casino Quote
frank_spencer Posted July 17, 2012 Posted July 17, 2012 What is the format of these 'regular drop-in sessions' of which Frank speaks? Genuine question. They're supposed to hold surgeries where residents can go to them and discuss any issues. Dunno if they do or not. Quote
frank_spencer Posted July 17, 2012 Posted July 17, 2012 The £1 billion transformation of the town centre can't argue they've not transformed it Positive spin used to the extreme granted but add up the cost of the colleges, baths, car parks, surfacing and public realm work and throw in the odd bit of private sector schemes (the mess that is the picture house, the empty offices on Bark Street, travelodge and a few others) and it probably won't be far off the billion quid. things aren't rosy i'm not saying they are i'm just saying it's the same in nigh on every other old industrial town. As i said earlier Beales in skipton is closing down and the rest of the town had empty units galore. Read any local papers letters page or the comments on their website and they're all the same. my town is shite/the traffic wardens are too strict/parking costs too much (delete as appropriate) i prefer to got to the neighbouring town/retail outlet. Visit Peterbrough/Hartlepool/Bradford they're all in the same boat. Quote
THunter Posted July 17, 2012 Posted July 17, 2012 (edited) I've done a check for my councillors, one is the wife of the bloke who pulled the swindle of putting himself top of the list for buying council houses and has a list of businesses longer than this thread. I've got 100% faith they'd give a shit what I thought. I'm guessing you refer to Jim Sherrington's missus. http://www.lgcplus.c...1647607.article Call me childish, but the spelling of councillor in the headline made me laugh. Edited July 17, 2012 by THunter Quote
Baron Bartrum Posted July 18, 2012 Posted July 18, 2012 I thought that out of the many online comments in the BEN, this one best summed up that useless fat socialist cunt, the so-called council leader. The problem is that the council figurehead is the much-maligned Cliff Morris. He's a fat, old man and will understandably see the town through the eyes of a fat, old man. His direction of Smithills Coaching house would appear to be echoed by his direction of the town - and it's a bleak outlook sprouting from years of neglect. We have in Bolton a large ethnic population, but where's our Rusholme or Chinatown? Where are our "quarters"? Where are the spaces for the small cafes & bistros to start up and grow into something great? Choked by the rotund councillor's chubby fingers? What the town needs is a movement that has vision, that can weed out the choking, stagnent undergrowth that has been nurtured by an equally choking, stagnent council. The focus on trying to be a city, with the larger brands associated with the city is surely wrong? Why would anyone jump on a train to another copycat town when they have Wigan, Bury, Chorley & of course Middlebrook in easy striking distance? Manchester's only about 20 mins away as is Preston. It's fairly simple, do what's always been done and you'll get the same results - so get the stagnent, lumbering, old man out and bring in fresh-thinking and energetic youth with radical ideas and the drive to succeed. Quote
MickyD Posted July 18, 2012 Posted July 18, 2012 things aren't rosy i'm not saying they are i'm just saying it's the same in nigh on every other old industrial town. Visit Peterbrough/Hartlepool/Bradford they're all in the same boat. Bury seem to be hiding their shithole of an industrial town centre better than Bolton. Quote
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