Moderators Casino Posted January 12, 2013 Moderators Share Posted January 12, 2013 That's just fookin unbelievable. Compared to who ? Not compared to our current shower of soft tarts. they do physical tests he's not where he needs to be now, if you know better than the professionals, you really are wasted on here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted January 12, 2013 Moderators Share Posted January 12, 2013 (edited) What makes you say that? cos he's a miserable fcuker he doesn't go cos its shite but loves coming on here telling us all how bad it is i think he's just trying to convince himself that right, tonycee? Edited January 12, 2013 by Casino Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted January 12, 2013 Moderators Share Posted January 12, 2013 (edited) anyway, my take on today conceded a stupid penalty could have scored 10 but wouldn't have scored if we'd played all night, bar the penalty millwall are fitter than us they have a physical presence we haven't got they're professional - ie they waste time like experts they always looked like they had a goal in them the game was quite enjoyable if you want value for money as a bolton fan who just wants to see a win, it was shite oh aye, sort the fcuking lights out Edited January 12, 2013 by Casino Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckhurstwhite Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Personally I think DF is the wrong guy, wrong club and wrong time. But. It will be very interesting to see how much fight the players show for him next week. He will really want to win that, let's see how much the players want to do it for him. But it's just not about how much fight next week what about the t'other week and this week? Don't get it myself and no wasn't in attendance today therefore #shitfan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Sharps Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 anyway, my take on today conceded a stupid penalty could have scored 10 but wouldn't have scored if we'd played all night, bar the penalty millwall are fitter than us they have a physical presence we haven't got they're professional - ie they waste time like experts they always looked like they had a goal in them the game was quite enjoyable if you want value for money as a bolton fan who just wants to see a win, it was shite oh aye, sort the fcuking lights out Thank you. I thought I was going crazy. I thought to myself I'm sure its not usually as dark as this in the stands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ex_midlandwhite Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Casino has pretty much summed up my thoughts. Worrying. Enjoyed it. And Millwall had stacks of what we lack. Fair play to Jackett given time has built a solid side for this league. Think we'd have folded in a similar position to what Millwall faced second half. And that's the main thing i think Dougie can fix. And Homer was it not Andrews with the shocking pass and Ream unaware rather than other way round? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astley White Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Alonso and Spearing best players today I thought, Ream was okay. Rest were shit, wayward passing to no-one a problem, poor communication between players, lack of understanding of each other's positioning, poor decisions and Eagles trying to score wonder goals. Eagles should have come off befoe Chungy. 4 strikers on at the end and still would never have scored. Wheater, Holden and Vela can't come back soon enough. Millwall defended well and are a good Championship team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Define fight though? If you mean throwing yourself into stupid tackles and sprinting 50 yards after a lost cause then anybody can do that. I don't think it's a fitness issue either. I do agree with Casino that we're not physically imposing. To get out of this division, you have to be strong through the middle. A trustworthy keeper, 2 decent centre halves with a good understanding, a solid midfield 2 including one with a bit of creativity, and a striker who can net you 20+ goals. I'd say we're 4 or 5 players short of that at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainmed Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 What makes you say that? Because I believe that we needed someone with more experience who has an established track record in management. Time is one thing he doesn't have to learn and improve at a club where the expectation was & is promotion. Next season is his time but the remit I sm sure was play-offs at least for this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rembrandt Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 they do physical tests he's not where he needs to be now, if you know better than the professionals, you really are wasted on here From the match evidence this season (and last), our current players are not where they 'need to be'. re fitness. Either that or they've no idea about playing football. I see far more evidence of fitness in non-league matches (for the level they're at) so I can't see what the professional tests are all about. And if you think our lot look fit for the Championship, Cas, you're wasted not being in the Wanderers public relations team. So stop fishing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules_darby Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 We may have had a fair bit of the ball but we created precious little today apart from the goal line clearance. IMO they were as likely to win today as we were; that ball across the box with a few mins left...their lad was centimetres away We are far too laborious with the ball, predictable with a huge lack of movement off the ball I agree with the MoM - Alonso, but even he wa only slightly above average for me. Bogdan didn't seem to do much wrong, but after that I thought every other player was poor today. And how many times will they try the short roll on corners and free kicks without executing a decent delivery before they decide its not working?? I'm far from convinced with DF, because I just don't see what he's trying to do / what he's trying to create We're no more solid at the back We dot appear to be working harder The football hasn't improved We aren't any more penetrative I just don't see it yet; hopefully there is a formula to it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Because I believe that we needed someone with more experience who has an established track record in management. And if we'd got that and he didn't immediately set us alight, we would have had all the moaners come out saying we needed somwbody fresh with new ideas. Dougie's number 2 has got more experience than the vast majority of Managers out there. I've got confidence in these two if they're given enough time to build their own side and aren't hounded out before they've had a chance. Whoever Gartside brought in after Coyle was going to have one hell of a job on their hands and immediate promotion was unrealistic in hindsight. There is a rot at the club which needs dealing with. I reckon we're looking at consolidation and then a clear out in the summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 And how many times will they try the short roll on corners and free kicks without executing a decent delivery before they decide its not working?? To be fair, we scored off one against Sunderland.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rembrandt Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 (edited) we're not physically imposing. And that's another thing. We've no technique to resist the slightest physical challenge. Powder-puff stuff. Oh, and Kenny Jackett should be well proud of his team's time wasting and gamesmanship. Totally unnecessary - Millwall were competent enough without it. I'm still trying to get myself warmed up again after iceblock Reebok. Good job we were on the front foot more in the 2nd half. What gets me most is that we showed signs last week against Sunderland that DF had a plan for the football we should play and we were starting to play it. Today was back to utter bollox in the 1st half, and not hugely better football in the 2nd half. Where does it all go during that week ? Edited January 12, 2013 by Rembrandt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules_darby Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 To be fair, we scored off one against Sunderland.... Ah ok Fair enough! However, the % that don't make the danger area make it an opportunity cost too high for me We'd score the same amount on normal deliveries IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomRepWanderer Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 And if we'd got that and he didn't immediately set us alight, we would have had all the moaners come out saying we needed somwbody fresh with new ideas. Dougie's number 2 has got more experience than the vast majority of Managers out there. I've got confidence in these two if they're given enough time to build their own side and aren't hounded out before they've had a chance. Whoever Gartside brought in after Coyle was going to have one hell of a job on their hands and immediate promotion was unrealistic in hindsight. There is a rot at the club which needs dealing with. I reckon we're looking at consolidation and then a clear out in the summer. plus 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Biggish Dave Posted January 12, 2013 Site Supporter Share Posted January 12, 2013 anyway, my take on today conceded a stupid penalty could have scored 10 but wouldn't have scored if we'd played all night, bar the penalty millwall are fitter than us they have a physical presence we haven't got they're professional - ie they waste time like experts they always looked like they had a goal in them the game was quite enjoyable if you want value for money as a bolton fan who just wants to see a win, it was shite oh aye, sort the fcuking lights out Summed up nicely for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Sharps Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 We do seem to defend corners better under Freedman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superkev Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 anyway, my take on today conceded a stupid penalty could have scored 10 but wouldn't have scored if we'd played all night, bar the penalty millwall are fitter than us they have a physical presence we haven't got they're professional - ie they waste time like experts they always looked like they had a goal in them the game was quite enjoyable if you want value for money as a bolton fan who just wants to see a win, it was shite oh aye, sort the fcuking lights out I wouldn't say they looked like they had a goal in them. Apart from a few long rangers and the odd cross in they did nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules_darby Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 I wouldn't say they looked like they had a goal in them. Apart from a few long rangers and the odd cross in they did nothing. That could as easily be a quote from one of theirs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter HomerJay Posted January 12, 2013 Site Supporter Share Posted January 12, 2013 Thank you. I thought I was going crazy. I thought to myself I'm sure its not usually as dark as this in the stands. It has me questioning my own eyesight today Thank fuxk it weren't just me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Personally I think DF is the wrong guy, wrong club and wrong time. But. It will be very interesting to see how much fight the players show for him next week. He will really want to win that, let's see how much the players want to do it for him. I think the main reason he has been brought in is because we're starting to see the benefits of the investment in the academy. I've never known us have so many youth players with the possibility of being in and around the 1st team. I'm sure not all of them will make it but it sounds like there are 5 or 6 that could have the chance within the next few seasons. DF has shown at Palace that he considers youth to be an important part of the club and is more than happy to involve them in the 1st team. There's been reports that he already has at least a few of them training with the 1st team and he's hoping to get them involved at some point. I've completely written off this season, if we manage to sneak a play off place then it's a massive added bonus but for me the rest of this season is about a few good away days and getting ready to properly have a go at the league next year. If some of this youth can break through, added to a few of Freedmans signings of players that he actually wants, and the biggest factor for me of Holden and Wheater returning then I still think we'll see that Freedman is the right man for the job. I'll not be making any rash decisions based on anything I see this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter HomerJay Posted January 12, 2013 Site Supporter Share Posted January 12, 2013 (edited) I still believe its just a matter of time. But yes, time us ringing out. Plus with mavies, wheater and hopefully a fully recovered Holden, things can only improve. Be interesting to see what players DF brings in and who they replace. Playoffs is still a very reasonable target for me. Edited January 12, 2013 by HomerJay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bwfcdan Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 I like Dougie. Once he's got the team running his way, his players, we'll be reet! COYW! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Please please tell mr eagles it's a TEAM game , it's not all about you mate shouldn't be starting Full stop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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