Accidentally deleted it so carry on...

I'm not sure to be honest.

 

The only thing I can say is this is the same Lee Clark who kept on starting Jordan Rhodes on the bench in league one.

I just think we need a steady older head rather than a potential wonder kid.

Pretty much this.

 

DF hung all his hopes on getting Juke.

Everyone in the world knew that Boro wanted a million plus for him.

We wanted another loan.

Therefore everyone in the world bar DF knew he wasn't coming back.

Juke eventually signs for Burnley and DF is left wringing his hands with no Plan B.

 

In fact, you have to a long way down the alphabet to find a plan that fits Dougie's approach... Plan Tpot

 

I have said already, we should of been knocking on the Riverside door the day after the season ended with the £1 mil cheque. Only the mentally unstable would think his performances wouldnt arouse interest elsewhere.

 

All clubs know pretty much who is coming in/going out a window in advance bar 1 or 2 expections. we would of known what our capabilites were budget wise.

 

pay the money, get him or be honest, say we cant afford it. then look elsewhere. stop dragging us along on blind optimism to ultimately disappoint

Gartsides tried to get a young unproven manager in twice in a row

 

- lower wages

-lower expectations

-more willing to try and make a name for themselves

I just think we need a steady older head rather than a potential wonder kid.

Big Mick not exactly worked miracles at Ipswich. Can't imagine he would have done much here either.

Big Mick not exactly worked miracles at Ipswich. Can't imagine he would have done much here either.

Really? I'd have mick here in a heartbeat, ipswich were in a lot of trouble till he arrived.

Gartsides tried to get a young unproven manager in twice in a row

 

- lower wages

-lower expectations

-more willing to try and make a name for themselves

After Coyle DF was either a brave or stupid appointment. Looks like it was stupid.

 

Bet DF must wonder why the fuck he came here.

Bet DF must wonder why the fuck he came here.

A tripling of his wage, pure and simple. I think he is/was all about the money coming here. Granted he may well now be viewed as damaged goods, but he's probably set up for life now, so I won't shed too many tears for him when he does get potted

No it's the damage done to the club we should be crying about. We've now totally squandered any advantage we had from our eleven year stay in the Premiership. Disastrous appointment after disastrous appointment.We all knew it might not last (well my age group who have seen this type of thing before) but it has been a real pisser how quickly we have become irrelevant even in the championship.

 

The failure to sign Juke (or even make a bid it looks like now) was the final nail. We are no hopers now for challenging even play offs, best we can hope for is to stay in this division but looks ever more likely that we are bound for the third flight again soon with managers of the calibre of Stan Anderson & George Mulhall with the players to match. I know who I think is most responsible but no sense in banging on about that. The football at the moment is dire, trying to remember if I was this despondent when Megson was here and I don't honestly thin I was. At least there was hope then that a different manager could come in and do better. What the fuck is Gartside going to do when he realises his great Dougie experiment has failed, the new guy is not going to have a pot to piss in.

I know who I think is most responsible but no sense in banging on about that.

I like the way you say this before banging on about who you think is responsible.

Couldn't give a toss what you think

The failure to sign Juke (or even make a bid it looks like now) was the final nail

We didn't get him because we couldn't afford the asking price when others came in with more funds. If you can think of a way we could have got him when others were willing to pay more, then I'd like to know your reasoning. Seriously.

 

Loads of valid reasons to slag off the club over the years, but being sensible with money isn't one of them. The only issue, as others have said, is a lack of a plan B in place. But Juke went elsewhere because he was out of our price range.

We didn't get him because we couldn't afford the asking price when others came in with more funds. If you can think of a way we could have got him when others were willing to pay more, then I'd like to know your reasoning. Seriously.

 

Loads of valid reasons to slag off the club over the years, but being sensible with money isn't one of them. The only issue, as others have said, is a lack of a plan B in place. But Juke went elsewhere because he was out of our price range.

Blixa maybe we did have a plan B and a Plan C, but like Juke another team with money came in and got them maybe even before Juke went, we will never know what really goes on behind closed doors 

our hope, i guess, was that a prem team didnt come in for him

 

i read tother day that it was shit losing to boro cos we're miles better on paper

 

a boro team that has strengthened in the summer and couldnt find a place in the team for juke even last season before they spent

If we had a £3.5m/£5.5m striker like Forest or Boro we would have won both of those games. Unfortunately when we had £3.5m/£5.5m strikers they were Sordell & Ngog.

ABC

ABC

I listen to a Scottish football podcast (Off The Ball) & he is frequently on as a guest saying how many jobs he has turned down.

thats good of him

 

theres plenty folk for who cleaning bogs keeps the wolf from the door

We didn't get him because we couldn't afford the asking price when others came in with more funds. If you can think of a way we could have got him when others were willing to pay more, then I'd like to know your reasoning. Seriously.

Loads of valid reasons to slag off the club over the years, but being sensible with money isn't one of them. The only issue, as others have said, is a lack of a plan B in place. But Juke went elsewhere because he was out of our price range.

I realise he was out of our price range. All I was saying is it seems to have happened very quickly that we can no longer afford £1 to £1.5 m for a player. It's frustrating with the money we have squandered on some terrible strikers, I know all that but not being able to get Juke just brought home how skint we are now

Snowball that is the nature of PL contracts with Championship income, its a quick transition to being skint. To be fair we spent when we came down which I didn't expect. New contracts for SKD &Knight and then brought in Mills, Andrews & Lonergan then Spearing.

 

I thought we would cut straight away but we gambled and it didn't pay off, hence the current situation.

That's a very good point that a lot of folk seem to forget, That's not a dig at you Snowball btw.  Folk are passionate and it hurts

I realise he was out of our price range. All I was saying is it seems to have happened very quickly that we can no longer afford £1 to £1.5 m for a player. It's frustrating with the money we have squandered on some terrible strikers, I know all that but not being able to get Juke just brought home how skint we are now

 

If truth be told, they were metaphorically looking down the back of the sofas for change to afford the 300k for Craig Davies.

If we had a £3.5m/£5.5m striker like Forest or Boro we would have won both of those games. Unfortunately when we had £3.5m/£5.5m strikers they were Sordell & Ngog.

That's all any/every team in the championship need. Two goal scoring strikers and Bingo.

 

There's fuck all between most squads in this league (Blackpool apart), get a goal scorer and we''ll be challenging.

http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/wanderers/wanderersnews/11428835._/?ref=mac

 

This makes grim, grim reading

Don't think some 18 year old kid and an unproved Crewe player is what we need at the moment anyway.

That's all any/every team in the championship need. Two goal scoring strikers and Bingo.

There's fuck all between most squads in this league (Blackpool apart), get a goal scorer and we''ll be challenging.

Agree with this completely.