Winding Up Orders

[Carlos]

This is why I was asking about background because a million percent they aren't ITK now!

[Tonge moor green jacket]

Not forced to resign, then?

I don't get how they can resign? If a contract is in place for them to manage the accounts and info isn't supplied for them to do their job, then presumably they would still be entitled to some sort of payment?

 

If the club needed to go elsewhere because of costs then again presumably they'd be entitled to some compensation unless an agreement is reached?

 

Either way they've not put a winding up petition for unpaid monies, so I can only assume they weren't forced into doing anything.

 

Therefore I can only deduce that dag is either a wum or a shit stirring anti ka protagonist who should either put up or fuck off.

[gonzo]

Well you don't obviously.

 

I do because basically it is a question of whether you believe Anderson or not?

 

Our friend Doomandgloom is deliberately implying Anderson is a liar and cannot be trusted.

 

This is from the same camp as Holdsworth, the ST, LoV (certainly in the past anyway), Mr Smurf and other random axe grinders.

 

They may be right in this for all I know but up to now non of them have brought any proof to the table of this and alternatively Anderson has seemingly acted in the best interests of the club to date.

 

If Doomy knows something then by all means let us know what it is.

 

If he doesn't, then he simply stirring shit.

 

That's why I give a fuck.

Of course I give a fuck about the whole saga, I've spent about 3 years posting in this thread about it

 

I meant does it really matter if Deloitte were forced to stand down or not?

 

In the grand scheme of things it's hardly watergate even if it did happen. Which it probably didn't.

[Sluffy]

Of course I give a fuck about the whole saga, I've spent about 3 years posting in this thread about it

 

I meant does it really matter if Deloitte were forced to stand down or not?

 

In the grand scheme of things it's hardly watergate even if it did happen. Which it probably didn't.

 

No, you're right it is not of nationally importance but it is a line over which lies are being told, or not, about the integrity of the club.

 

If someone is in the know about something dodgy at the club then spit it out, otherwise keep your malicious innuendos to yourselves.

 

Holdsworth, the ST, LoV and various others have waged a civil war to get Anderson out.

 

If Doomy knows something - and he started out by inferring he did - then lets hear it, otherwise what is he getting out of stirring up even more shit about the club and Anderson - other than getting his jollies at our club and ourselves expense.

[Kane57]

Sluffy - how has LOV waged civil war? Or should I ask to what end?

 

We've been courted and looked after by the Anderson family. They've offered us incentives and access to staff and players. They might be a bit shady and Ken might be a bastard but there is little doubt he's working to benefit himself and therefore by extension - us. I'd rather he was on our side than working against us.

 

There may well be a conspiracy somewhere but I categorically guarantee it's nothing to do with us.

Edited June 12, 2017 by Kane57

[Escobarp]

I don't get how they can resign? If a contract is in place for them to manage the accounts and info isn't supplied for them to do their job, then presumably they would still be entitled to some sort of payment?

 

If the club needed to go elsewhere because of costs then again presumably they'd be entitled to some compensation unless an agreement is reached?

 

Either way they've not put a winding up petition for unpaid monies, so I can only assume they weren't forced into doing anything.

 

Therefore I can only deduce that dag is either a wum or a shit stirring anti ka protagonist who should either put up or fuck off.

There will be an engagement letter which acts as the contract and terms for the relationship between auditor and club will be within this document. I suspect but don't know that it may well have been in the interests of both parties to terminate said agreement having seen it happen before in my line of work

 

If the auditors could not get comfortable enough with the information contained to issue a going concern statement in the accounts then they would have refused to sign them off instead offering to qualify the accounts which would have been insufficient for the club to get the embargo lifted as signed off accounts are a stipulated condition of the clubs embargo

 

As such I would imagine it was simply a parting of the ways

 

The reason the club won't have wanted to just pot them when they started being difficult is an auditor would be starting from scratch and the club would have had to pay for work done to date and as such they would be paying twice for the same job.

 

All this is just me using my knowledge of similar matters and most certainly not ITK

 

But hopefully it answers a few peoples questions and if anybody on here disagrees then as always feel free to comment

Edited June 12, 2017 by Escobarp

[Sluffy]

Sluffy - how has LOV waged civil war? Or should I ask to what end?

 

We've been courted and looked after by the Anderson family. They've offered us incentives and access to staff and players. They might be a bit shady and Ken might be a bastard but there is little doubt he's working to benefit himself and therefore by extension - us. I'd rather he was on our side than working against us.

 

There may well be a conspiracy somewhere but I categorically guarantee it's nothing to do with us.

 

If you read my posts today rather than having a knee jerk reaction to my last one above you would have noted that I was referring to your past negativity towards Anderson and your pro-support of Holdsworth (I refer you to post 123 above).

 

As to what end, well that was clearly for clicks on your site.

 

I accept that you have in recent time seemed to have greatly played that down negativity towards Anderson both on LoV and on your twitter account (at least the ones I've seen from time to time - I'm certainly not one of your avid followers if there are such people - which there probably are).

 

As for being looked after by the Anderson family, then fair play to you and your LoV site.

[Kane57]

I've been at work pal, I'm only replying to the last one.

 

Would be grateful if you could appreciate that just maybe there is no conspiracy or that we are definitely not part of one.

 

All we represent is a group of fans with differing opinions. It's what makes us so interesting.

[Carlos]

I've never seen anything on there to suggest anyone is a supporter of the club. Your definition of interesting must differ vastly from mine.

[Casino]

One man's interesting is anothers set of cocks

[burndenpaddock]

How many division 1 or championship clubs use Deloitte? For all we know, KA has manoeuvred us out of a costly contract for a more affordable one within our budget. But until there's hard evidence, its all just speculation and whispers.

[Sluffy]

I've been at work pal, I'm only replying to the last one.

 

Would be grateful if you could appreciate that just maybe there is no conspiracy or that we are definitely not part of one.

 

All we represent is a group of fans with differing opinions. It's what makes us so interesting.

 

First of all thank you for taking the piss out of me on your twitter account (not for the first time either) - it is hard to take you as seriously when you still do name calling stuff like that at your age.

 

Never the less, clearly LoV is a very popular site with a following of people who seem happy enough to be spoon fed their thoughts but as a very much older (and hopefully by now worldly wiser person) than what I expect your typical reader is, I do like to think for myself and as such I regret to say I find many of your blog articles not that particularly interesting or informative (today's effort from Smurf being an extremely poor attempt in my opinion, being an ill thought out and conceived item, containing no new information than what was known from last month and with clearly no concept as to the timescale, negotiations and monetary requirements needed to bring about resolutions of several crucial key matters pertinent to the future of the club).

 

Saying that though I do commend your occasional 'scoops' and seemingly being far better connected with what is going on within the club than our friend Marc Iles at the Bolton News who often seems to scurry after your occasional 'exclusives' to get some copy into the paper as quickly thereafter as he can.

 

It was obvious from your initial post that you were reacting to the first post you saw of mine this evening rather than appreciate its context in the development of this thread over the day.  Your apology (although it was not couched in those terms), is fully accepted.  Even though you must have done your tweet about me at the same time too.

 

Interestingly it is you who have twice now brought the word 'conspiracy' into this discussion, as I have only referred to pro and anti Holdsworth and Anderson factions.

 

I don't think there is a conspiracy, or ever was, just a very strong negativity by some towards Anderson and a love in for Holdsworth, from the early days of the takeover of ownership.

 

I think it was fairly obvious though that some wanted to see the back of Anderson from early on.

 

And the LoV seemed to be more pro Dean that Ken back then.

[Traf]

#teamken

[Kane57]

#teambwfc

[Guest]

2 other websites slugging it out on WW

[Kane57]

Not any more

[jules_darby]

2 other websites slugging it out on WW

Click bait wankers versus I don't even know what the other site is

 

Zzzzzzzzzzz

[mannyroad58]

I actually don't give a fuck and the reason being I personally can't do fuck all about it apart from turning up most weekends and supporting the team I've supported for over 40 years.

You lot who do give a fuck just crack on arguing amongst yourselves about something that you also can't do fuck all about as long as it makes you feel better.

My advise is leave all this to the people who can do something about it

[jules_darby]

I actually don't give a fuck and the reason being I personally can't do fuck all about it apart from turning up most weekends and supporting the team I've supported for over 40 years.

You lot who do give a fuck just crack on arguing amongst yourselves about something that you also can't do fuck all about as long as it makes you feel better.

My advise is leave all this to the people who can do something about it

You can't distribute from our keeper either but I've seen you explode over that once or twice

 

[mannyroad58]

And that will continue into next season as well Jules

[frank_spencer]

How many division 1 or championship clubs use Deloitte? For all we know, KA has manoeuvred us out of a costly contract for a more affordable one within our budget. But until there's hard evidence, its all just speculation and whispers.

Ken said in an interview with GMR months ago that one of the recommendations they had been given by the EFL and legal bids was to go for a smaller accounting firm than deloitte and that the club was in the process of doing so at the time.

 

He followed that up by saying that once that was sorted the accounts from before he took over would be released and that they wouldn't be pretty reading .

[radcliffe white]

I actually don't give a fuck and the reason being I personally can't do fuck all about it apart from turning up most weekends and supporting the team I've supported for over 40 years.

You lot who do give a fuck just crack on arguing amongst yourselves about something that you also can't do fuck all about as long as it makes you feel better.

My advise is leave all this to the people who can do something about it

in one so fucking boring

[gonzo]

http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/15359583.Wanderers_settle_winding_up_petitions/

 

Ken out

[Big E]

This the tax thing ?

[Guest]

http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/15359583.Wanderers_settle_winding_up_petitions/

 

Ken out

 

 

He normally would have said