Terror Attacks

[Not in Crawley]

Hardly getting frustrated ducky, I'm merely posting PROVEN FACTS which his supporters get frustrated about trying to deny on a football forum.

Subtlety isn't your strong point is it? Stick to roofs or googling the Spectator.

 

Or jog on and spend your time having a go at the mayor can vote for, and leave us in London to our mayor that we voted in.

Edited June 8, 2017 by Not in Crawley

[enzo gambaro]

Muslims here and worldwide need to be seen to be actively opposing, reporting and denouncing it.

Muslims have been opposed to it for centuries, I'm not sure they should have to demonstrably stamp their feet about it just because the West has suddenly got wind that something whiffs a bit.

[miamiwhite]

Subtlety isn't your strong point is it? Stick to roofs or googling the Spectator.

 

Or jog on and spend your time having a go at the mayor can vote for, and leave us in London to our mayor that we voted in.

Yes. You stick to what you know best as well darling.

[Not in Crawley]

Yes. You stick to what you know best as well darling

Making right wing planks look foolish?

[miamiwhite]

Making right wing planks look foolish?

You're the fool denying proven facts son.

 

Don't reply again.

[Not in Crawley]

You're the fool denying proven facts son.

 

Don't reply again.

Hmmmm. I think, on balance, I probably will.

 

You don't get to dictate the narrative, you don't get to say what is allowed and what isn't. You don't get to shut down the debate. This is the problem with the far right, not fans of an opposing view.

 

And that's what you have. A view.

 

You've recently read up on Wahhabism, and you've read a few articles in the Mail and in Spectator. Great. But the problem with editorial is that again, this is a view.

 

No one denies Wahhabism has been an issue for a lot longer than you've been aware of it, and yes Khan shared certain platforms with some dodgy characters. All done under his capacity as a Human Rights lawyer and parliamentary candidate. And if we are calling out politicians for sharing platforms with unsavory characters  there'd be no one left to vote for. He went along not to support be to speak to his potential constituents. That isn't a sign he supports hate preachers - unless you want to see it that way. Which, its quite obvious you clearly do.

 

The interesting thing is what when this was the main thrust of Zac Goldsmith's campaign down here, Goldsmith got rightly called out for a piss poor campaign and it fucked up his whole chance. This line didn't fool London, you copy and posting on here changes nothing.

 

A fact maybe a fact, its the slant you put on it that makes it a point of view. That's why I suggested maybe subtlety isn't your strongest suit, and that you might want to concentrate your efforts on your mayor and not on the one you don't get to vote for. 

[madthatter]

Happened this morning

 

https://mobile.twitter.com/Geodan333/status/872732442645450752/video/1

 

Kin el!  It would seem that there has been a clear and planned course of strikes.  Imagine how many others like this have been thwarted?  I'm guessing it's not reported for security reasons but fair play to all those involved.

 

If that blade was even suspected of being used for what we saw on Saturday then these are the kind of folk that want sticking in a camp - or worse.

[madthatter]

Muslims have been opposed to it for centuries, I'm not sure they should have to demonstrably stamp their feet about it just because the West has suddenly got wind that something whiffs a bit.

 

I agree.  My point was more directed at media etc; but to be fair I have seen Muslims deny that a problem exists within Islam.   That's not entirely true though is it?

 

I think there's a fair bit of burying heads in the sand

[miamiwhite]

Hmmmm. I think, on balance, I probably will.

 

You don't get to dictate the narrative, you don't get to say what is allowed and what isn't. You don't get to shut down the debate. This is the problem with the far right, not fans of an opposing view.

 

And that's what you have. A view.

 

You've recently read up on Wahhabism, and you've read a few articles in the Mail and in Spectator. Great. But the problem with editorial is that again, this is a view.

 

No one denies Wahhabism has been an issue for a lot longer than you've been aware of it, and yes Khan shared certain platforms with some dodgy characters. All done under his capacity as a Human Rights lawyer and parliamentary candidate. And if we are calling out politicians for sharing platforms with unsavory characters  there'd be no one left to vote for. He went along not to support be to speak to his potential constituents. That isn't a sign he supports hate preachers - unless you want to see it that way. Which, its quite obvious you clearly do.

 

The interesting thing is what when this was the main thrust of Zac Goldsmith's campaign down here, Goldsmith got rightly called out for a piss poor campaign and it fucked up his whole chance. This line didn't fool London, you copy and posting on here changes nothing.

 

A fact maybe a fact, its the slant you put on it that makes it a point of view. That's why I suggested maybe subtlety isn't your strongest suit, and that you might want to concentrate your efforts on your mayor and not on the one you don't get to vote for.

 

Sweetie, I'm not far right, though I have veered to the right.

 

I'm always interested in opposing views, though it is you left wingers who always use diversionary tactics to avoid the main issue.

Trying to ridicule which you did instantly is a classic example of left wing asininity.

Your subtlety claim is invalid, take your blinkers off.

 

Re Wabbihism, if you look at my earlier posts to Enzo etc, I have studied this for a few years now along with renown academics who I have as friends. Please don't try and say I got all the info purely from The Mail or Spectator.

 

I note you don't mention the links I put up from former Islamist Extremists who are trying to tackle the problem.

Same with regards to Nazir Afzal.........ironically, did you see his brilliant keynote speech today ?

 

I'd say you probably wasn't even aware of it.

 

Going to back to your hero Citizen Khan, how on earth he tried to even defend terrorists who subsequently pleaded guilty to terrorism charges etc...that beggars belief.

My point regardless of him being your Mayor, mine or the Mayor of Anywhere, his proven links however how tenuous or historical shouldn't see him in such a prominent position.

And yes, I agree there's hell of a lot of politicians in that position and they should be removed as well.

 

Would love to debate further, but I now have to venture back onto the roofs.

 

Enjoy your afternoon, hope it's a peaceful day in the smoke.

[Guest]

Asininity

 

First time on WW?

[bolton va va]

Asininity

 

First time on WW?

With Owen Coyle as an ex manager, it shouldn't be.

[Zico]

Happened this morning

 

https://mobile.twitter.com/Geodan333/status/872732442645450752/video/1

 

happened monday, apparently not terror related 

 

might just be a drug dealer

 

who knows

 

good to see though

 

http://metro.co.uk/2017/06/06/armed-police-arrest-man-with-three-machetes-on-london-bus-6689863/

[Zico]

video of the 3 blokes stabbing a guy then getting shot

 

[HomerJay]

video of the 3 blokes stabbing a guy then getting shot

 

 

he could have turned his mobile to landscape at least.

Edited June 8, 2017 by HomerJay

[gonzo]

They attacked people together so they couldn't fight back ffs.

[Mixu]

There seems to be a lot of these 'not real Muslims' knocking about.

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4584294/Saudi-soccer-team-refuse-stand-London-victims.html

[miamiwhite]

They attacked people together so they couldn't fight back ffs.

Imagine if they attacked that area when 30 or so football lads were there after a match ?

 

They would have been blitzed.

 

Scary thing is though, once the terrorists are pummelled and getting leathered on the deck, the armed police would probably think (albeit for a split second) that the victims were them and not the lads filling them in......probably end up with more victims from "friendly fire"

[madthatter]

There seems to be a lot of these 'not real Muslims' knocking about.

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4584294/Saudi-soccer-team-refuse-stand-London-victims.html

 

Well if that's right that article/picture tells a simple and clear story.  It is the Mail though so . . . still, looks bad, really bad!

 

Quite an obvious national snub and links back to the Saudis and their agreement with the US all those years ago.  This is where the problem lies and is originating from - I wonder why we don't hear more about this

 

Appalling.

 

Should be banned from FIFA, imo.

[madthatter]

Imagine if they attacked that area when 30 or so football lads were there after a match ?

 

They would have been blitzed.

 

Scary thing is though, once the terrorists are pummelled and getting leathered on the deck, the armed police would probably think (albeit for a split second) that the victims were them and not the lads filling them in......probably end up with more victims from "friendly fire"

 

They wouldn't do that though would they?

 

Dealing with cowards here, not mindless hooligans.

[miamiwhite]

They wouldn't do that though would they?

 

Dealing with cowards here, not mindless hooligans.

I know mate, but it would be lovely if they did come across a full team of lads who were bang up for it.

[madthatter]

I know mate, but it would be lovely if they did come across a full team of lads who were bang up for it.

 

Damn right  

[Whites man]

I know mate, but it would be lovely if they did come across a full team of lads who were bang up for it.

The lads didn't seem up for it with the Russians last summer.

[only1swanny]

On hindsight i'm retracting my earlier statement about role models.. I've just remembered the article..

 

https://www.tes.com/news/school-news/breaking-news/sadiq-khan-we-need-more-muslim-role-models-save-our-young-men

 

 

See Mr Corbyn, that's how to admit you were wrong... goes a long way...

[Jol_BWFC]

Ahhh yes, you said he was doing a great a job

I know you like proven facts. A YouGov poll of Londoners published on 31 March 2017 (commissioned by Queen Mary University of London, after the Westminster attack) showed that 58% of Londoners said he was doing a good job. He had a popularity rating of net +35 (i.e. those thinking he was doing a good job less those thinking he was doing a bad job).

 

Out of interest, that compared to approval ratings for Teresa May at +9, Tim Farron at -8 and Jeremy Corbyn at -44.

[only1swanny]

People whinging on faceache about May saying she will "rip up the human rights bill to arrest people"...

 

your human rights end when you purposely plan to kill innocents..