kent_white Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 I think she’s awful Think it’s Kent who likes her I just can’t see anything in her that would make her a good leader of anything I do like her - I'd probably bum her as well if she'd have me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalcolmW Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 I do like her - I'd probably bum her as well if she'd have me The point about Rayner is that she comes across as thick because of her A-u-L accent. Certainly she is not educated in the conventional sense, but she has made her career by being consistently underestimated, hence her success as a trade union negotiator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted February 27, 2018 Moderators Share Posted February 27, 2018 She comes across as thick because she is thick Granted her accent doesn't help but saying it's her accent isn't close to it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalcolmW Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 She comes across as thick because she is thick Granted her accent doesn't help but saying it's her accent isn't close to it But she has positioned herself whereby she can be viewed as a future party leader by both Corbynistas and Blairites, which takes some doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 A grandmother at 37 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Winchester White Posted February 27, 2018 Site Supporter Share Posted February 27, 2018 She isn't thick but I wouldn't want her anywhere near government. I too would bum her though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalcolmW Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 A grandmother at 37 and her own mother's carer at 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 She isn't thick but I wouldn't want her anywhere near government. I too would bum her though. You'd have to go after me though - I've already claimed her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Winchester White Posted February 27, 2018 Site Supporter Share Posted February 27, 2018 A grandmother at 37 Knew she looked familiar... https://goo.gl/images/ni59uY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maaarsh Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 Or as daft as comparing Brexit to trading a 3 course dinner for a bag of crisps. Always nice to see our impartial civil service in action, unbiasedly enacting the will of the people as expressed by the democratically elected Government. The envy of the world, and any criticism whatsoever is a disgusting undermining of their unimpeachable impartiality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crawshawbooth Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 Always nice to see our impartial civil service in action, unbiasedly enacting the will of the people as expressed by the democratically elected Government. The envy of the world, and any criticism whatsoever is a disgusting undermining of their unimpeachable impartiality.Very well put Very well put sir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules_darby Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 A grandmother at 37Standard Stockport bird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted February 27, 2018 Site Supporter Share Posted February 27, 2018 Always nice to see our impartial civil service in action, unbiasedly enacting the will of the people as expressed by the democratically elected Government. The envy of the world, and any criticism whatsoever is a disgusting undermining of their unimpeachable impartiality. Martin Donnelly isn't a civil servant. He left his role as Liam Fox's Permanent Secretary last year, and is entitled to express his inside knowledge as he pleases. Maybe you should look into his claims properly, rather than immediately reaching for your pitch fork and branding him a liar for expressing cynicism over the way Brexit is being handled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Is Rayner the ginger with the big tits? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Is Rayner the ginger with the big tits? Yep - a comely figure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyjoojar Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 I bet her lovely leathery flaps are full of flavour though. Indeed, like Bisto Best gravy!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Boris is an absolute fucking clown. This is all just a bit of a jolly for the big daft twat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrelli Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Next leader, chortle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Boris is an absolute fucking clown. This is all just a bit of a jolly for the big daft twat. It's like he's becoming a parody of himself. The fact he could be the next PM is a real worry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maaarsh Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Martin Donnelly isn't a civil servant. He left his role as Liam Fox's Permanent Secretary last year, and is entitled to express his inside knowledge as he pleases. Maybe you should look into his claims properly, rather than immediately reaching for your pitch fork and branding him a liar for expressing cynicism over the way Brexit is being handled. Ex Civil servants can indeed say what they like (as the civil service code has no forward looking conflict of interest provision unlike the ministerial code, precisely because the rules assume they should not be important enough to worry about) - but current civil servants need to stop getting so upset when people point out their partiality and bias on policy where they are clearly seeking to divert or obstruct, when their erstwhile colleagues like Donnelly and O'Donnell are making those accusations look stunningly obvious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Ex Civil servants can indeed say what they like (as the civil service code has no forward looking conflict of interest provision unlike the ministerial code, precisely because the rules assume they should not be important enough to worry about) - but current civil servants need to stop getting so upset when people point out their partiality and bias on policy where they are clearly seeking to divert or obstruct, when their erstwhile colleagues like Donnelly and O'Donnell are making those accusations look stunningly obvious. Lets censor anyone who speaks out against Brexit. That'll learn em.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Boris Johnson - is a national embarrassment. The worst front bench politician I can remember. He should be sacked immediately for his latest in a huge list of blunders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalcolmW Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Boris Johnson - is a national embarrassment. The worst front bench politician I can remember. He should be sacked immediately for his latest in a huge list of blunders. Then clearly you don't remember George Brown. As Foreign Secretary he (allegedly) approached someone in a purple frock at a reception who replied to him: "Mr Brown, there are three reasons I will not dance with you. One, you are drunk. Two, this is the Venezuelan national anthem. And three, I am the Archbishop of Caracas." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maaarsh Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Lets censor anyone who speaks out against Brexit. That'll learn em.... Say what you like - just don't have a hissy fit when people point out you're not impartial. Civil servants seem to have incredibly thin skins and need constant reassurance that everyone considers them paragons of virtue. They're humans like anyone else - some of them are good, some bad, and none are capable of perfectly impartiality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted February 28, 2018 Author Share Posted February 28, 2018 Lets censor anyone who speaks out against Brexit. That'll learn em.... Talking of folk speaking out and folk trying to cover it up....... https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/feb/28/dossier-on-sexual-misconduct-in-labour-party-sent-to-corbyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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