Site Supporter Cheese Posted July 23, 2018 Site Supporter Share Posted July 23, 2018 Project Armageddon from our expert in matters banana Not Armageddon no. It's going to be fucking shit for a long time though. Unless you have some light to shed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salford Trotter Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 If any remainer had said on here we wouldn't see a brexit bonus for 2 generations we would have been casitigated. I doubt most Leave voters would have voted the way they did if they knew then what JRM has known all along. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 (edited) Fantastic speech by Hunt today, it’s about time we told the EU that they need to make concessions in order for a deal to be agreed. Edited July 23, 2018 by Mounts Kipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted July 23, 2018 Author Share Posted July 23, 2018 Makes you wonder why our right wing government would entertain them Peace talks....if it’s good enough for Jezza. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted July 24, 2018 Members Share Posted July 24, 2018 https://countrysquire.co.uk/2018/07/21/from-remain-to-out-now/amp/?__twitter_impression=trueInteresting article from Country Squire... An excellent article from one who has his eyes open and is not duped by Project Fear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted July 24, 2018 Members Share Posted July 24, 2018 Always the winners........ 17,4M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted July 24, 2018 Members Share Posted July 24, 2018 Have you read the links Mounts?? The most ardent Brexiteer is admitting that Brexit (not a No Deal Brexit - that'll be even worse) will deliver in around 50 years from now when your kids will be grandparents. When did you share this bombshell with us in your prediction or are you saying you know more about this than JRM? So JRM is now the font of all knowledge and the only voice to listen to when it comes to predicting the future? FFS, you Remoaners will grasp at any straw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted July 24, 2018 Members Share Posted July 24, 2018 Blimey. You are honestly the only person in the whole world who believes this I reckon Nope. I am with him. Short term pain for long term gain without a doubt. Further, when the corrupt and failed political experiment fails, as it inevitably will, visionary Leavers will be blamed by the EU sycophants for causing or contributing to the downfall rather than acknowledged for having the foresight to do the right thing. Clean break and keep the 39 billion quid. Fuck em. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted July 24, 2018 Members Share Posted July 24, 2018 If any remainer had said on here we wouldn't see a brexit bonus for 2 generations we would have been casitigated. I doubt most Leave voters would have voted the way they did if they knew then what JRM has known all along. Interesting to see you believing that he's 100% correct with this one but not with any of his other Brexit ideas. Talk about selective fucking hearing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madthatter Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 (edited) No point...his terrorist friends who he funds do that for him. Considering the hysteria that follows Trump around you'd think western governments would be railroaded into refusing talks with any state that funds Islamic terrorism. I know that's a tad simplistic but . . . On the flip side, what folk want to get up to in their own countries is up to them. I don't agree with stoning or beheading folk (generally - I'd happily do both to those acid throwing m0ngs) but if that's what the folk want leave em to it. It is quite amusing that I've never heard Owen Jones and the like talk about such actions by Islamic states. To be fair, maybe he has but I've never seen any of it? edit - actually, that's not true I'm sure we all remember this beaut https://www.spectator.co.uk/2016/06/for-owen-jones-and-fellow-idiots-the-orlando-atrocity-was-all-about-them/ Edited July 24, 2018 by madthatter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted July 24, 2018 Moderators Share Posted July 24, 2018 On the flip side, what folk want to get up to in their own countries is up to them bit of casual genocide for supper? fcuk me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madthatter Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 bit of casual genocide for supper? fcuk me I was referring to stoning and such practices. I thought that would have gone without saying but, no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted July 24, 2018 Moderators Share Posted July 24, 2018 nothing you post surprises me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madthatter Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 nothing you post surprises me Yeah cos predictably scathing any comment one disagrees with is much more fun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted July 24, 2018 Author Share Posted July 24, 2018 An excellent article from one who has his eyes open and is not duped by Project Fear. Great article isn’t it P and all from a former soppy remain voter. Surprised those lot on here haven’t tried to dissect it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 (edited) Great article isn’t it P and all from a former soppy remain voter. Surprised those lot on here haven’t tried to dissect it. Nobody who signs up to the opinions expressed in that article can ever vote Conservative though. So therein lies a problem for old Bolty. That is the lefts leavers argument. But the whole thrust of it, is arguing against neoliberal conservative economic policy. Against the policy of tight fiscal control, austerity, cuts etc....the exact opposite of Conservatism. Which means if you buy into its argument for social democracy, you are naturally voting for Labour next election.... Or do you lot just subscribe to any argument that suits whichever side you are on at any time and have absolutely no beliefs or principles at all? I've no idea what your economic politics are, but Bolty has made his views very clear. No way can he subscribe to that argument without being a massive hairy whopper. Edited July 24, 2018 by bwfcfan5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted July 24, 2018 Author Share Posted July 24, 2018 Nobody who signs up to the opinions expressed in that article can ever vote Conservative though. So therein lies a problem for old Bolty. That is the lefts leavers argument. But the whole thrust of it, is arguing against neoliberal conservative economic policy. Against the policy of tight fiscal control, austerity, cuts etc....the exact opposite of Conservatism. Which means if you buy into its argument for social democracy, you are naturally voting for Labour next election.... Or do you lot just subscribe to any argument that suits whichever side you are on at any time and have absolutely no beliefs or principles at all? I've no idea what your economic politics are, but Bolty has made his views very clear. No way can he subscribe to that argument without being a massive hairy whopper. That’s a bit rich from you lot isn’t it ? Especially after thinking Project Fear is the best thing since sliced bread for the last two years. And you’re patronising and generalising once again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted July 24, 2018 Author Share Posted July 24, 2018 Nope. I am with him. Short term pain for long term gain without a doubt. Further, when the corrupt and failed political experiment fails, as it inevitably will, visionary Leavers will be blamed by the EU sycophants for causing or contributing to the downfall rather than acknowledged for having the foresight to do the right thing. Clean break and keep the 39 billion quid. Fuck em. Loving the term visionary leavers P. Youremspot on mate re us getting the blame for the failing EU, when in fact as everyone here knows, the EU is doomed to failure. That gravy train hit the buffers years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrycowdrill Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 'Do you just wheel out statements to support your argument even though it doesnt make sense?' "No, do you?" 'No but look at this report from blah blah blah...' "well, ive just found this which blows that report out of the water" 'no it doesnt! and i'll think youll find..." and round and round this nonsense goes. Not even a football on Christmas day could unite you lot Brexit - The most divisive issue this country has ever seen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 That’s a bit rich from you lot isn’t it ? Especially after thinking Project Fear is the best thing since sliced bread for the last two years. And you’re patronising and generalising once again. Nice side step. So, simple question. Do you believe in that argument you posted, that leaving the EU is good because it allows us to adopt a more socialist economic model? A yes or no will suffice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted July 24, 2018 Site Supporter Share Posted July 24, 2018 Not gone into what jrm had to say; was he taking into account the £39bn into his thinking? Either way, 50 years is too far ahead. A sense of benefit or not should be gleaned well before then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted July 24, 2018 Author Share Posted July 24, 2018 Nice side step. So, simple question. Do you believe in that argument you posted, that leaving the EU is good because it allows us to adopt a more socialist economic model? A yes or no will suffice. Not really..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiggyStardust Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 'Do you just wheel out statements to support your argument even though it doesnt make sense?' "No, do you?" 'No but look at this report from blah blah blah...' "well, ive just found this which blows that report out of the water" 'no it doesnt! and i'll think youll find..." and round and round this nonsense goes. Not even a football on Christmas day could unite you lot : : Brexit - The most divisive issue this country has ever seen I think you will find 'crisp' or 'crisps' more divisive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salford Trotter Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 Not gone into what jrm had to say; was he taking into account the £39bn into his thinking? Either way, 50 years is too far ahead. A sense of benefit or not should be gleaned well before then. It is not clear but with or without the £39b factored in no one raised this from the Leave side. It's a lose lose scenario and if the electorate were told this then surely more than 2/100 Leave voters would have switched sides knowing full well that people are likely to lose their jobs and probably their homes because of Brexit. Multi millionaire Rees Mogg will be just fine thank you very much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 Not really..... Why post something you disagree with then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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