gonzo Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 8 hours ago, bolty58 said: No. They fucking started it all in moving away from a free trading agreement called the Common Market to a political union/federalised Europe with a group of faceless Brussels based bureaucrats pulling the strings. That's what was voted against - what they started. Aye, so its hardly surpising these faceless bureaucrats arent for giving in. Was always going to be this way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 9 hours ago, bolty58 said: No. They fucking started it all in moving away from a free trading agreement called the Common Market to a political union/federalised Europe with a group of faceless Brussels based bureaucrats pulling the strings. That's what was voted against - what they started. ... And where we not part of that, or did they do it all behind our backs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 1 hour ago, gonzo said: Aye, so its hardly surpising these faceless bureaucrats arent for giving in. Was always going to be this way. And Bolty seems to forget that the UK are/were part of what the EU now is, we've been complicit in creating what we now see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules_darby Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 what a brilliant future Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiggyStardust Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Sweep said: And Bolty seems to forget that the UK are/were part of what the EU now is, we've been complicit in creating what we now see. when you say 'we', I assume you mean the politicos, not the populace ? I can't remember us ever having a vote (other than the 2016 referendum) on whether to be in a Eurpean poliitcal body rather than a trading block. I can't remember ever seeing a manifesto that stated they would join a European political body if elected to Government. So if by 'we' you mean me and you, then 2016 was the first chance we had a chance of being complicit in this, or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted December 6, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted December 6, 2020 7 minutes ago, jules_darby said: what a brilliant future Patriotism You’re forgetting it’s power. Or just go and sit in Benidorm and leave everyone else to mop up the shit you’ve done on the floor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 51 minutes ago, ZiggyStardust said: when you say 'we', I assume you mean the politicos, not the populace ? I can't remember us ever having a vote (other than the 2016 referendum) on whether to be in a Eurpean poliitcal body rather than a trading block. I can't remember ever seeing a manifesto that stated they would join a European political body if elected to Government. So if by 'we' you mean me and you, then 2016 was the first chance we had a chance of being complicit in this, or not. Of course, by "we" I mean those who we elect every few years. I agree 2016 was the first time the people were given a direct vote on the EU in a generation. Prior to 2016, I'm not sure I'd heard that many people, and certainly not more than one in every two, say how the EU was causing us such a massive problem, so it's surprising, that as a population who hated the situation so much, that none of the major parties had put us leaving in their manifestos in the last few decades Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrelli Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 1 hour ago, jules_darby said: what a brilliant future I hope brexiteers will give generously to the food banks next year. #visionaries Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 2 hours ago, ZiggyStardust said: when you say 'we', I assume you mean the politicos, not the populace ? I can't remember us ever having a vote (other than the 2016 referendum) on whether to be in a Eurpean poliitcal body rather than a trading block. I can't remember ever seeing a manifesto that stated they would join a European political body if elected to Government. So if by 'we' you mean me and you, then 2016 was the first chance we had a chance of being complicit in this, or not. Correct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 2 hours ago, jules_darby said: what a brilliant future She obviously wasn’t listening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted December 6, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted December 6, 2020 13 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: She obviously wasn’t listening. What did he say? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted December 6, 2020 Author Share Posted December 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Farrelli said: I hope brexiteers will give generously to the food banks next year. #visionaries So you think we are going to starve then ? Give your head a serious shake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, miamiwhite said: So you think we are going to starve then ? Give your head a serious shake. One assumes he was joking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrelli Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, miamiwhite said: So you think we are going to starve then ? Give your head a serious shake. No , obviously reading posts isn’t your strong point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted December 6, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted December 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Mounts Kipper said: She obviously wasn’t listening. This is another typical social media post. Decide which parts/words suit what they want to post and ignore the whole. Doesn’t matter what the subject matter is; not confined to brexit nor what 'side' they're on. Then they get spread around like well informed individuals with real insight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted December 6, 2020 Author Share Posted December 6, 2020 18 minutes ago, Farrelli said: No , obviously reading posts isn’t your strong point. I never know with you, due to how much of a negative tit you are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted December 6, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted December 6, 2020 Don't remember seeing "VOTE LEAVE - YOU WON'T STARVE" plastered across the side of a London bus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Spider said: What did he say? It’s on bbc iPlayer, if you want to hear it from the man himself. Marr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted December 6, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted December 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: It’s on bbc iPlayer, if you want to hear it from the man himself. Marr. They already twisted one of his comments from a previous interviews. Take a snippet that’s not properly representative and run with it. In fairness the TV platforms also do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 (edited) I think I'd prefer a complete media black out on any further negotiations. Just let us know when it's done, good or bad. Edited December 6, 2020 by Sweep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 34 minutes ago, Cheese said: Don't remember seeing "VOTE LEAVE - YOU WON'T STARVE" plastered across the side of a London bus. You know why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Farrelli said: No , obviously reading posts isn’t your strong point. Fuck me the irony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted December 6, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted December 6, 2020 29 minutes ago, Sweep said: I think I'd prefer a complete media black out on any further negotiations. Just let us know when it's done, good or bad. You have a fine point. I'd go with that. Could even let her maj announce it Christmas day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 https://www.itv.com/news/2020-12-06/the-12-reasonable-worst-case-outcomes-if-brexit-talks-collapse Delightful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 56 minutes ago, gonzo said: https://www.itv.com/news/2020-12-06/the-12-reasonable-worst-case-outcomes-if-brexit-talks-collapse Delightful Ok that is a planning document. It is awful journalism by Peston. With any project you highlight the risks which it seems what was done in September. That document then underpins the project. What he has ignored is anything that has been done since the document was produced to off set the risks. If the answer to that is nothing I would be amazed as why produce a risks document and then ignore it. It also a worse case scenario so assume there is also a best case document ? Would expect there to be best , likely and worst case scenarios. Not saying it won’t happen but that story is atypical journalist telling half story for the best headline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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