little whitt Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 46 minutes ago, Spider said: Based on what? I hate to sound like I’m pulling your argument apart, but grooming is a thing that exists for young girls of all backgrounds. It’s not just BOLTON… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, royal white said: Bit of a difference from being told you’re joining a terrorist organisation online which will result in the deaths of innocent people and being offered drink and drugs by dirty old men. I think the majority on here would of had a dabble with alcohol at 15, I doubt many were planning on joining the IRA No it’s exactly the same! 🤣 I find amazing (predictable) how the same clowns try to defend it by comparing the 2. The same ones who are cleverest on here. Edited January 13, 2023 by Mounts Kipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted January 13, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted January 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: No it’s exactly the same! 🤣 I find amazing (predictable) how the same clowns try to defend it by comparing the 2. Nobody has 'defended' anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 4 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: No it’s exactly the same! 🤣 I find amazing (predictable) how the same clowns try to defend it by comparing the 2. The same ones who are cleverest on here. Premium Mounts. Told you, the world will end before the penny drops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted January 13, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted January 13, 2023 1 hour ago, royal white said: Bit of a difference from being told you’re joining a terrorist organisation online which will result in the deaths of innocent people and being offered drink and drugs by dirty old men. I think the majority on here would of had a dabble with alcohol at 15, I doubt many were planning on joining the IRA What about the UDA? I was asked to become an affiliate member on my 16th birthday. And I said yes, whilst being given a Rangers shirt by members of my family who positively glow orange. I had no idea what I was saying yes to, it just sounded ace to a 16 year old lad. And my grandad "would have been proud" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, Spider said: What about the UDA? I was asked to become an affiliate member on my 16th birthday. And I said yes, whilst being given a Rangers shirt by members of my family who positively glow orange. I had no idea what I was saying yes to, it just sounded ace to a 16 year old lad. And my grandad "would have been proud" How was it? Did you enjoy it? Kill many? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted January 13, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted January 13, 2023 1 minute ago, royal white said: How was it? Did you enjoy it? Kill many? As many as Shemima. <nudge nudge> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
athywhite1958 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, mickbrown said: Nobody knows what they are doing at 15. Think back to when you were 15. I knew fuck all about anything at 15 When I was 15 I was delivering papers 7 days a week, looking after my younger brother, working at the egg packing factory in school holidays and watching Bolton home and away, I knew exactly what I was doing at 15 Edited January 13, 2023 by athywhite1958 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
athywhite1958 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 1 hour ago, mickbrown said: How did she assist them? I thought she got married to one. It's not like she was out setting bombs off was she? She was involved in making suicide belts for the ISIS nutjobs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 13, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted January 13, 2023 13 minutes ago, athywhite1958 said: She was involved in making suicide belts for the ISIS nutjobs Heard that too. I also believe it's irrelevant if she didn't "do" anything- she chose to join the group and pump out sprogs very readily by one of them. She, as everyone else, knew what isis do. Ultimately though, if the nation wherever she's detained decides she has to go, we may have to take her back, or hope she "disappears". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Heard that too. I also believe it's irrelevant if she didn't "do" anything- she chose to join the group and pump out sprogs very readily by one of them. She, as everyone else, knew what isis do. Ultimately though, if the nation wherever she's detained decides she has to go, we may have to take her back, or hope she "disappears". But but but 14 year old girls in Rochdale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 13, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted January 13, 2023 20 minutes ago, royal white said: But but but 14 year old girls in Rochdale Indeed. Seems that for some, if someone is a victim of a crime, they can't then be guilty of being an offender themselves. They're not mutually exclusive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 The point was, unfortunately, young uns can easily be manipulated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted January 13, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted January 13, 2023 26 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Indeed. Seems that for some, if someone is a victim of a crime, they can't then be guilty of being an offender themselves. They're not mutually exclusive. Can you point out where anyone said that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 2 hours ago, mickbrown said: The point was, unfortunately, young uns can easily be manipulated. The penny still won't drop, of that I'm sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted January 13, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted January 13, 2023 5 hours ago, mickbrown said: Nobody knows what they are doing at 15. Think back to when you were 15. I knew fuck all about anything at 15 I take it this isn’t a great time to remember that Jon Venables and Robert Thompson were both 10 years old when they murdered Jamie Bulger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 2 hours ago, mickbrown said: The point was, unfortunately, young uns can easily be manipulated. Can they be manipulated to tidy their bedrooms? or is it just to make bombs and shag rag heads? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, royal white said: Can they be manipulated to tidy their bedrooms? or is it just to make bombs and shag rag heads? It's never for useful purposes is it? Edited January 13, 2023 by mickbrown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted January 13, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted January 13, 2023 I’m trying to convince my 15 year old lad to revise for exams and you’d think I’d asked him to pick up every dog turd in town. This carries on and I might offer to swap him for Begum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 59 minutes ago, MickyD said: I take it this isn’t a great time to remember that Jon Venables and Robert Thompson were both 10 years old when they murdered Jamie Bulger. Not sure what your point is. You really think they understood the gravity of what they were doing at the age of 10? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderlust Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 5 hours ago, Spider said: What about the UDA? I was asked to become an affiliate member on my 16th birthday. And I said yes, whilst being given a Rangers shirt by members of my family who positively glow orange. I had no idea what I was saying yes to, it just sounded ace to a 16 year old lad. And my grandad "would have been proud" In the 70s when I was living in Scotland there was an explosion at the Orange Lodge on Glasgow and the papers went apeshit. Turned out a cleaner had found some sweating sticks of dynamite in a cupboard and had put them in the oven to dry out. A small account of this appeared in page 17 of the Record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted January 13, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted January 13, 2023 32 minutes ago, Wanderlust said: In the 70s when I was living in Scotland there was an explosion at the Orange Lodge on Glasgow and the papers went apeshit. Turned out a cleaner had found some sweating sticks of dynamite in a cupboard and had put them in the oven to dry out. A small account of this appeared in page 17 of the Record. Many of these people are the type who say “it is what it is” and “let’s move on” whilst chanting about a fight in a field 200 years ago pretending it still matters. Ive kept my grandads Orange stuff, but only out of nostalgia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted January 13, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted January 13, 2023 42 minutes ago, mickbrown said: Not sure what your point is. You really think they understood the gravity of what they were doing at the age of 10? That’s precisely my point. Two ten year olds pretty much tried and sentenced as adults. I don’t remember anyone besieging the judiciary that they were only children. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 9 hours ago, Casino said: i genuinely dont understand the train strikes what has it got to do with the govt i thought they were private companies Its massively subsidised is it not? All the ticket dosh goes to the government I think. They dole it out and pay for the rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted January 13, 2023 Moderators Share Posted January 13, 2023 The government and the foreign companies they/we subsidise, i think I still dont see why theyre involved in pay quarrels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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