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10 hours ago, Mounts Kipper said:

I’m with stringer on this, seem to me like a set of cunts the civil servants. 

Why?

I know a fair few and they are decent, hardworking people doing their jobs no matter who is the incumbent government. As I say, met a mate on my birthday and he said that the last few years it's been the most chaotic he can remember in 30 years of being working for the civil service.

And don't forget the civil service includes the office Jr all the way up to SCS.

Don't swallow this tripe - the first thing a failing government does is blame the Civil Service. Its the last refuge of the political scoundrel.

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36 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

Why?

I know a fair few and they are decent, hardworking people doing their jobs no matter who is the incumbent government. As I say, met a mate on my birthday and he said that the last few years it's been the most chaotic he can remember in 30 years of being working for the civil service.

And don't forget the civil service includes the office Jr all the way up to SCS.

Don't swallow this tripe - the first thing a failing government does is blame the Civil Service. It’s the last refuge of the political scoundrel.

I am sure they are, what I’m also sure if is many of the hierarchy drag there feet on policy they don’t like, we’ve seen it recently on Brexit, seems to me the tail is trying to wag the dog, Stringer says it happens, he’s Labour, Raab clearly has experienced it and I’ve read plenty of reports across the media that also back up this view.
 

The government is voted into power to implement policy and the civil servants should act in the manner their job title describes and enact the governments wishes. 

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1 hour ago, Mounts Kipper said:

I am sure they are, what I’m also sure if is many of the hierarchy drag there feet on policy they don’t like, we’ve seen it recently on Brexit, seems to me the tail is trying to wag the dog, Stringer says it happens, he’s Labour, Raab clearly has experienced it and I’ve read plenty of reports across the media that also back up this view.
 

The government is voted into power to implement policy and the civil servants should act in the manner their job title describes and enact the governments wishes. 

What dragging of feet did we see with brexit by civil servants?

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2 hours ago, Mounts Kipper said:

I am sure they are, what I’m also sure if is many of the hierarchy drag there feet on policy they don’t like, we’ve seen it recently on Brexit, seems to me the tail is trying to wag the dog, Stringer says it happens, he’s Labour, Raab clearly has experienced it and I’ve read plenty of reports across the media that also back up this view.
 

The government is voted into power to implement policy and the civil servants should act in the manner their job title describes and enact the governments wishes. 

Mate - that happens literally everywhere. Including down to local changes in the NHS. 

Make sure it fails. Blame the idea in the first place which may (or may not) have been a good one.....

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13 hours ago, Mounts Kipper said:

I’m with stringer on this, seem to me like a set of cunts the civil servants. 

Hes chatting shit

He objects to employees complaining about the behaviour of their boss (a useless one at that, but thats irrelevant)

He needs to go back in time, the owd duffer

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1 minute ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Plenty… I’m on Raab side on this issue, don’t do as you’re told and rightly get a bollocking, it’s how it should be. 

Right mounts, go and jump off that cliff

Yes sir, no sir, three bags full sir

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5 minutes ago, Casino said:

Hes chatting shit

He objects to employees complaining about the behaviour of their boss (a useless one at that, but thats irrelevant)

He needs to go back in time, the owd duffer

In any business if your boss tells you to do something you do it. (As long as it’s legal and not life threatening) you also have the choice to not do anything and face the consequences. 

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2 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

In any business if your boss tells you to do something you do it. (As long as it’s legal and not life threatening) you also have the choice to not do anything and face the consequences. 

Can you give an example of a Civil Servant dragging their feet over Brexit? You said there were "plenty", so it should be easy to give one.

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1 minute ago, Cheese said:

Can you give an example of a Civil Servant dragging their feet over Brexit? You said there were "plenty", so it should be easy to give one.

I can give evidence from a civil service whistle blower. 

 

He said:"There are many good people there who just want to do a good job but everything I experienced gave the impression that some senior civil servants in key roles were happy for the system to fail because of their dislike of Brexit. That was evidenced in their defence of the setup.”

“For Brexit to be given a fair chance to succeed it cannot be that the pro EU senior civil servants hinder the process by playing the age old game of keeping the Secretary of State blind to what's actually going on. And this is the case. 

“The civil service is there to enact government policy and nothing more. There are some fantastic civil servant's who agree with everything I have said.”

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Just now, Mounts Kipper said:

I can give evidence from a civil service whistle blower. 

 

He said:"There are many good people there who just want to do a good job but everything I experienced gave the impression that some senior civil servants in key roles were happy for the system to fail because of their dislike of Brexit. That was evidenced in their defence of the setup.”

“For Brexit to be given a fair chance to succeed it cannot be that the pro EU senior civil servants hinder the process by playing the age old game of keeping the Secretary of State blind to what's actually going on. And this is the case. 

“The civil service is there to enact government policy and nothing more. There are some fantastic civil servant's who agree with everything I have said.”

That's not evidence. It's an anonymous anecdote. You could have made it up for all I know.

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1 minute ago, Winchester White said:

How come it's the useless fuckers who get called out for bullying? Raab, Patel, Williamson...

A KC studied all the evidence and came to a conclusion yet Mounts knows Raab is in the right somehow. Right OK.

Bullied by Raab do me a favour… some folk need just to grow a pair. 

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6 minutes ago, Cheese said:

That's not evidence. It's an anonymous anecdote. You could have made it up for all I know.

Aye I’m going to waste my time making up stuff to justify my point…. Plenty of evidence out there if you look. Sadly I’ve never worked in the civil service so any evidence presented is circumstantial. You choose to believe it or not I couldn’t care less and furthermore as per usual no point in discussing stuff with you. 

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