Moon boy Posted January 5, 2020 Posted January 5, 2020 15 minutes ago, MalcolmW said: Yes, no, yes and maybe. Great, can’t wait Quote
bolty58 Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 8 hours ago, MalcolmW said: I see Nandy as by far the best candidate. We agree. For this reason I hope she doesn't get it. Best chance of restoring their fabled 'red wall'. I hope they go for the continuity Corbyn model or better still, keep the man himself. Ooooh Jeremy Corbyn. What a guy. Quote
Mounts Kipper Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 (edited) I see Lavery could be standing, now he’s thick as mince. What a poor bunch up for labour leader, better to wrap the party up. Edited January 6, 2020 by Mounts Kipper Quote
Guest Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 14 hours ago, MalcolmW said: Yes, no, yes and maybe. Nandy in my view won't ever win a general election - that's the problem with her. She's intelligent and speaks fairly well - but she is just not going to be perceived by the wider public as a suitable leader. I'm not convinced many of the contenders will be. Quote
Guest Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 I see Jess Philips has come down on the rejoining side Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 2 hours ago, boltondiver said: I see Jess Philips has come down on the rejoining side T'was ever thus. Start a new party. Quote
Guest Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, boltondiver said: I see Jess Philips has come down on the rejoining side Re-joining is a whole different question to leave/remain. Anyone saying they are definitely for "rejoining" is a bit numb. It entirely depends on the offer - and we're probably 10 years from that point anyway. I note she backtracked this morning on that position. I do like her, but she's not fit to lead the Labour party - an honest well meaning person - yes - in touch with her constituents yes - but no leadership skills I can see. Edited January 6, 2020 by bwfcfan5 Quote
miamiwhite Posted January 6, 2020 Author Posted January 6, 2020 So then, we touched on this a while ago......whilst £625 million from one year isn't a massive amount in the grand scale of things, it's still a hefty amount to be losing out on. And that is just from one year......add all the other years up, it is actually one giant amount...... https://fullfact.org/health/how-much-does-uk-recover-health-costs-eu/ Quote
Guest Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, miamiwhite said: So then, we touched on this a while ago......whilst £625 million from one year isn't a massive amount in the grand scale of things, it's still a hefty amount to be losing out on. And that is just from one year......add all the other years up, it is actually one giant amount...... https://fullfact.org/health/how-much-does-uk-recover-health-costs-eu/ The figures are broadly correct for 2015, although addressing this situation would in itself only have a marginal impact on the financial situation of the NHS. I think Full Fact are a bit biased there; it may not have a significant impact on the funding for the NHS, but how many lives could have been saved or improved by that money? Quote
miamiwhite Posted January 6, 2020 Author Posted January 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, boltondiver said: The figures are broadly correct for 2015, although addressing this situation would in itself only have a marginal impact on the financial situation of the NHS. I think Full Fact are a bit biased there; it may not have a significant impact on the funding for the NHS, but how many lives could have been saved or improved by that money? Exactly mate. They are very biased. Like I say, those figures relate purely to 2015. Tally up all the previous and later years, and we are talking one huge figure. Kent should spend more time chatting to the recovery people instead of slating us on here for pointing out the inconvenient truths which cause his ilk to put their hands over their misty eyes Quote
Guest Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 26 minutes ago, miamiwhite said: Exactly mate. They are very biased. Like I say, those figures relate purely to 2015. Tally up all the previous and later years, and we are talking one huge figure. Kent should spend more time chatting to the recovery people instead of slating us on here for pointing out the inconvenient truths which cause his ilk to put their hands over their misty eyes NHS putting money into some kind of left wing “think” tank? https://conservativewoman.co.uk/if-the-nhs-is-so-hard-up-why-is-it-giving-money-away/ Quote
miamiwhite Posted January 6, 2020 Author Posted January 6, 2020 16 minutes ago, boltondiver said: NHS putting money into some kind of left wing “think” tank? https://conservativewoman.co.uk/if-the-nhs-is-so-hard-up-why-is-it-giving-money-away/ Arent they the ones currently campaigning for a four day week ? Pretty sure they did something similar a decade ago when they wanted a 21 hour working week 😂😳🤯 Quote
miamiwhite Posted January 6, 2020 Author Posted January 6, 2020 That's the young (ish) white, uni educated types for you 😳 Quote
kent_white Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 4 hours ago, miamiwhite said: Exactly mate. They are very biased. Like I say, those figures relate purely to 2015. Tally up all the previous and later years, and we are talking one huge figure. Kent should spend more time chatting to the recovery people instead of slating us on here for pointing out the inconvenient truths which cause his ilk to put their hands over their misty eyes Why do you think the NHS doesn't chase up this money? Quote
kent_white Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, Casino said: Is the correct answer sadiq khan? 😁 Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 25 minutes ago, kent_white said: Why do you think the NHS doesn't chase up this money? https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/27/hit-squads-to-tackle-hospitals-not-charging-payment-from-foreign/ From 3 years ago. Been going on for quite some time. I find it incredible that someone doesn't have the specific task of claiming it back. Hit squads FFS! Quote
kent_white Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 7 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/27/hit-squads-to-tackle-hospitals-not-charging-payment-from-foreign/ From 3 years ago. Been going on for quite some time. I find it incredible that someone doesn't have the specific task of claiming it back. Hit squads FFS! They'd end up losing money. It would cost more to set up and run the agency than they could ever hope to get back in repaid fees. Quote
Escobarp Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, kent_white said: They'd end up losing money. It would cost more to set up and run the agency than they could ever hope to get back in repaid fees. So all the other eu countries that claim from us are doing so at a loss correct? Would seem odd that they would continue with the practice of doing so? Quote
Guest Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, kent_white said: They'd end up losing money. It would cost more to set up and run the agency than they could ever hope to get back in repaid fees. So, what should we do? Quote
MickyD Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 13 minutes ago, boltondiver said: So, what should we do? Put out to tender the job of employing people to ring round those who owe the money. I reckon if you offer a company 10% of everything they collect they'd jump at the chance. It's a win-win for the NHS because it's 10% of something they didn't have. Quote
kent_white Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 28 minutes ago, MickyD said: Put out to tender the job of employing people to ring round those who owe the money. I reckon if you offer a company 10% of everything they collect they'd jump at the chance. It's a win-win for the NHS because it's 10% of something they didn't have. They'd go bust pretty soon. They tried clamping down in London a few years back. Making people prove they had a right to treatment before they were admitted. Out of 9000 people - they found about 50 who were eligible to pay something. It's not like the NHS hasn't thought of this before. I'm sure we'd love another £600m or whatever they're claiming it is this week. But the practicalities of claiming it back are prohibitive. Anyway - it's a nice smokescreen up in front of the chronic underfunding. Quote
Not in Crawley Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 5 hours ago, miamiwhite said: Arent they the ones currently campaigning for a four day week ? Pretty sure they did something similar a decade ago when they wanted a 21 hour working week 😂😳🤯 What’s wrong with the four day week? Quote
Mounts Kipper Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said: What’s wrong with the four day week? Im not doing an extra day for no one. 😂 Quote
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