Ani Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 11 minutes ago, miamiwhite said: Why would No Deal be terrible ? Is it based on reports which haven't been proven yet as per many of the remaining side's forecasts and predictions ? Anyone can say what they like re the various predictions and forecasts, nobody knows for certain 100% . Well every politician who campaigned to Leave said it would never happen as it would be so bad for us and them. For instance if we test drugs ( not the sort we like!) in the UK this currently is accepted by the rest of Europe so we need a deal to ensure that can continue. There are loads of examples were we need a deal to just clarify how such existing things will work. How about expats ? We have an agreed principle they will be ok both ways but that needs formalising. Anyone who works with a company in the EU will need the terms of trade agreeing etc etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 13 minutes ago, miamiwhite said: Why would No Deal be terrible ? Is it based on reports which haven't been proven yet as per many of the remaining side's forecasts and predictions ? Anyone can say what they like re the various predictions and forecasts, nobody knows for certain 100% . I reckon the fact that nobody on any side wants a "no deal" scenario tells us that it's not a good thing doesn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted October 1, 2020 Moderators Share Posted October 1, 2020 1 hour ago, paulhanley said: I agree Thanks for listing the good parts of leaving Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted October 1, 2020 Author Share Posted October 1, 2020 7 minutes ago, Sweep said: I reckon the fact that nobody on any side wants a "no deal" scenario tells us that it's not a good thing doesn't it? Most likely and that's why a deal will be done as famously predicted by Mounts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted October 1, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted October 1, 2020 1 minute ago, miamiwhite said: Most likely and that's why a really shit deal will be done and be lauded by Mounts even if it involves us giving all our haddock to France Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulhanley Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 9 minutes ago, Casino said: I agree Thanks for listing the good parts of leaving 🤣🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted October 1, 2020 Author Share Posted October 1, 2020 Just now, Spider said: But you were the first to rejoice saying our fishing rights aren't worth a wank anyway 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted October 1, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted October 1, 2020 1 minute ago, miamiwhite said: But you were the first to rejoice saying our fishing rights aren't worth a wank anyway 😉 They're not, but everyone seems to get really uptight about cod and pollocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted October 1, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted October 1, 2020 Just now, Spider said: They're not, but everyone seems to get really uptight about cod and pollocks. Try telling that to fishermen, who live in areas with little other work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 9 minutes ago, miamiwhite said: Most likely and that's why a deal will be done as famously predicted by Mounts Before we rewrite history. Let’s note that since day 1 after the vote everyone has said there needs to be a deal. Not sure Mounts can claim exclusivity on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted October 1, 2020 Author Share Posted October 1, 2020 6 minutes ago, Ani said: Before we rewrite history. Let’s note that since day 1 after the vote everyone has said there needs to be a deal. Not sure Mounts can claim exclusivity on that. Even Goofy Guy is seeing the light 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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paulhanley Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, Ani said: Before we rewrite history. Let’s note that since day 1 after the vote everyone has said there needs to be a deal. Not sure Mounts can claim exclusivity on that. They haven't. Many of the longstanding Brexiteers would be quite content without one and for trade on WTO terms. I'm sure it wouldn't result in the armageddon some revel in predicting. A sensible and mutually beneficial deal would be preferable. The EU know that. They just play hard ball. Fair play to them. If we'd wised up two years ago and done the same we would probably have this sorted already. Realpolitik of hard nosed negotiation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted October 1, 2020 Author Share Posted October 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, leigh white said: Give up the ghost Mick and stop living down the pit you old pikey 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted October 1, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted October 1, 2020 On 19/10/2019 at 21:37, Biggish Dave said: You missed salmon paste. What a cunt that is Is he the cunt who wrote Satanic Verses upsetting our Muslim brothers in the process? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrelli Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 28 minutes ago, Sweep said: I reckon the fact that nobody on any side wants a "no deal" scenario tells us that it's not a good thing doesn't it? That shouldn't really need pointing out unless you're a bit thick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted October 1, 2020 Author Share Posted October 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, Farrelli said: That shouldn't really need pointing out unless you're a bit thick You forgot the usual old racist bit 🙄 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrelli Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 todays buzz word is 'realpolitik' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 11 minutes ago, paulhanley said: They haven't. Many of the longstanding Brexiteers would be quite content without one and for trade on WTO terms. I'm sure it wouldn't result in the armageddon some revel in predicting. A sensible and mutually beneficial deal would be preferable. The EU know that. They just play hard ball. Fair play to them. If we'd wised up two years ago and done the same we would probably have this sorted already. Realpolitik of hard nosed negotiation. To be honest I meant to put ‘nearly everyone’. Would you be happy with No Deal ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulhanley Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 1 minute ago, Farrelli said: todays buzz word is 'realpolitik' Quite a long word with several syllables. Us leavers aren't meant to use them are we? If it makes you feel better imagine I don't know what it means. .... oh and I'm still not sorry for saying nasty things about Wigan Athletic either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulhanley Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 Just now, Ani said: To be honest I meant to put ‘nearly everyone’. Would you be happy with No Deal ? Nope Neither am I happy we have no deal with Aus, NZ, USA, India etc. Now we can negotiate for ourselves we can tackle that. A mutually beneficial deal would be good - based on trade between sovereign entities. That way everyone prospers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted October 1, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted October 1, 2020 22 minutes ago, Mr Grey said: Loving all the trade and procedural experts on here, when Brexit arrives at least i will know the drill is. You’ll know the drill is what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted October 1, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted October 1, 2020 1 minute ago, MickyD said: You’ll know the drill is what? He's upgrading his Fistmaster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulhanley Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 16 minutes ago, Mr Grey said: Loving all the trade and procedural experts on here, when Brexit arrives at least i will know the drill is. Trade deals aren't easy to finalise and I'm certainly no expert. On a general level and away from Brexit I think too many people think trade deals are a zero sum game. Done right they can be mutually very beneficial. You don't necessarily need massive expertise if you hold that principle dear. The problem with dealing with the EU (as compared to most nations) is that political self preservation comes into it. A mutually good deal is seen by them as ultimately encouraging others to leave the club. And if those dominoes start falling then the bureaucracy and its gravy train faces an existential threat. Politics trumps economics. Which of course was also one driving factor in the leave vote of 2016 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted October 1, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted October 1, 2020 7 minutes ago, Mr Grey said: Edited I knew what you meant but I’m a pedant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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