Politics

[jayjayoghani]

Its pretty accepted Remain ran a truly awful campaign full of complacency. Dont think they thought they needed to exploit the uncertainty or questions about how Ireland, NI and GB was to function. 

Edited February 26, 2023 by jayjayoghani

[Sweep]

12 hours ago, royal white said:

So the same as here you mean. I thought the EU weren’t having problems with food? Isn’t the ROI part of the EU? 

Yes it is. That's twice you've asked that question now. 

[gonzo]

16 minutes ago, Sweep said:

Yes it is. That's twice you've asked that question now. 

I think hes missing the bit on how they get their tomatoes.

[royal white]

3 hours ago, Sweep said:

Yes it is. That's twice you've asked that question now. 

So why would someone post a link to Northern Ireland’s problems? 

[royal white]

3 hours ago, gonzo said:

I think hes missing the bit on how they get their tomatoes.

Same as us, yet folk blame Brexit. Brexit isn’t an excuse for ROI 

[Spider]

7 oven ready years

[Wanderlust]

5 hours ago, Spider said:

“In seven years, we’ll still be relying on Brussels for a result”

Thats what it said on my ballot paper anyway.

We're f*****. There are no brussels in our supermarket and we probably couldn't afford them anyway. The missus was planning on doing Turnip a l'Orange for Sunday tea but they're running low on them too. No oranges anyway so it's tinned beans and cabbage again.

[Spider]

10 minutes ago, Wanderlust said:

We're f*****. There are no brussels in our supermarket and we probably couldn't afford them anyway. The missus was planning on doing Turnip a l'Orange for Sunday tea but they're running low on them too. No oranges anyway so it's tinned beans and cabbage again.

We’re not fucked by any means.

But good luck finding one of these bonuses we were promised. All supposed to be loads better, wasn’t it?

Still, it’s barely been 7 years, we were told it could take 2, 5, 10, 20 then 50 years to see them.

So, you know. Brillz

[royal white]

9 minutes ago, Spider said:

We’re not fucked by any means.

But good luck finding one of these bonuses we were promised. All supposed to be loads better, wasn’t it?

Still, it’s barely been 7 years, we were told it could take 2, 5, 10, 20 then 50 years to see them.

So, you know. Brillz

So you knew it may take some time but still voted to leave 😂😂 it gets better. 

[globaldiver]

26 minutes ago, Spider said:

We’re not fucked by any means.

But good luck finding one of these bonuses we were promised. All supposed to be loads better, wasn’t it?

Still, it’s barely been 7 years, we were told it could take 2, 5, 10, 20 then 50 years to see them.

So, you know. Brillz

Who said it might take 50 years?

[globaldiver]

40 minutes ago, Wanderlust said:

We're f*****. There are no brussels in our supermarket and we probably couldn't afford them anyway. The missus was planning on doing Turnip a l'Orange for Sunday tea but they're running low on them too. No oranges anyway so it's tinned beans and cabbage again.

Toughsheet again?

[globaldiver]

1 hour ago, Spider said:

7 oven ready years

The experts were predicting armageddon

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

I honestly think things like this are damaging to the social contract.

The drop in charge rate for the offence of stalking is shocking, and clearly certain crimes are now de facto legal.

It's piss poor and there's no excuse for it.

[globaldiver]

10 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

I honestly think things like this are damaging to the social contract.

The drop in charge rate for the offence of stalking is shocking, and clearly certain crimes are now de facto legal.

It's piss poor and there's no excuse for it.

Root cause, in your view?

[Spider]

48 minutes ago, royal white said:

So you knew it may take some time but still voted to leave 😂😂 it gets better. 

Cast your mind back to 2016.

It was very much a “let’s get out, it’ll all be sorted within a couple of years, mega trade deals, easiest transition imaginabke etc”

latterly, Mounts on here and Rees Mogg are saying 20/50 years is fine. They Knew it would be the case.

Short memories, long transitions.

How is it you’re so bothered by it anyway? You didn’t even vote. You deffo would have voted Brexit though. Flags. Etc.

[globaldiver]

1 minute ago, Spider said:

Cast your mind back to 2016.

It was very much a “let’s get out, it’ll all be sorted within a couple of years, mega trade deals, easiest transition imaginabke etc”

latterly, Mounts on here and Rees Mogg are saying 20/50 years is fine. They Knew it would be the case.

Short memories, long transitions.

How is it you’re so bothered by it anyway? You didn’t even vote. You deffo would have voted Brexit though. Flags. Etc.

Rees Mogg said (and I’m sure you know this, but seem committed to ignore)

 “The overwhelming opportunity for Brexit is over the next 50 years.”

 

 

 

[Spider]

4 minutes ago, globaldiver said:

Rees Mogg said (and I’m sure you know this, but seem committed to ignore)

 “The overwhelming opportunity for Brexit is over the next 50 years.”

 

 

 

He’s bought himself another 43 years. Brave. I might put my neck on the line here and say that England will win one of the next 50 world cups. Prove me wrong.

Leave also said:

1. Trade with the EU will be tariff-free and involve minimal bureaucracy

Nice one. That went well.

2. Northern Ireland border ‘absolutely unchanged

How’s that going, lads?

3. Take back control on immigration and asylum, and cut migration to the tens of thousands

Lol

Edited February 26, 2023 by Spider

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

11 minutes ago, globaldiver said:

Root cause, in your view?

I'm not sure there's just one.

Chronic underfunding, liberalism, incresed bureaucracy, fatalist attitudes, etc.

There comes a point where the government of the day has to take steps to tackle it, though, and, well...

[globaldiver]

7 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

I'm not sure there's just one.

Chronic underfunding, liberalism, incresed bureaucracy, fatalist attitudes, etc.

There comes a point where the government of the day has to take steps to tackle it, though, and, well...

All good points

I’d be interested in any data tracking back further

[globaldiver]

11 minutes ago, Spider said:

He’s bought himself another 43 years. Brave. I might put my neck on the line here and say that England will win one of the next 50 world cups. Prove me wrong.

Leave also said:

1. Trade with the EU will be tariff-free and involve minimal bureaucracy

Nice one. That went well.

2. Northern Ireland border ‘absolutely unchanged

How’s that going, lads?

3. Take back control on immigration and asylum, and cut migration to the tens of thousands

Lol

You clearly didn’t read the sentence

Ah well, keep on reading the headlines and not seeing what is actually happening.

[Spider]

1 minute ago, globaldiver said:

You clearly didn’t read the sentence

Ah well, keep on reading the headlines and not seeing what is actually happening.

I read the sentence.

But after 7 years, it’s been dogshit and nothing like the claims of the day.

If we could all predict the future as accurately as the like of Rees Mogg seems able to, we’d be clearing uk on the lotto every week.

Hindsight is great. But decisions have to be made on the available information at that time.

Even I know the £350million was bollocks given that we got a rebate of £80million from it straight away.

But IMPROVED trading with the EU was a critical promise that hasn’t been kept. At all.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

1 hour ago, Wanderlust said:

We're f*****. There are no brussels in our supermarket and we probably couldn't afford them anyway. The missus was planning on doing Turnip a l'Orange for Sunday tea but they're running low on them too. No oranges anyway so it's tinned beans and cabbage again.

You're a bit of a gipper. Cast your mind back to when people largely ate seasonal produce.

Now it's headline news and folk are panicking because bad weather and floods hundreds of miles away are depriving them of out of season salads. 

We weren't fucked previously, and aren't now, and moaning continually doesn't change that. 

It is perhaps a sad reflection on where a section of society is now though.

[MickyD]

2 hours ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

I honestly think things like this are damaging to the social contract.

The drop in charge rate for the offence of stalking is shocking, and clearly certain crimes are now de facto legal.

It's piss poor and there's no excuse for it.

 

 

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

26 minutes ago, MickyD said:

 

On that kind of thing, the current goings on in Wakefield are fascinating.

And not in a good way.

[Sweep]

5 hours ago, royal white said:

So why would someone post a link to Northern Ireland’s problems? 

I honestly don't know. Hopefully now though, you're aware that ROI is definitely in the EU