Howardroark Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, Moon boy said: Who paid the wages? Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Carlos Posted March 15, 2019 Moderators Share Posted March 15, 2019 Just now, Dr Faustus said: sorry, I didn't mean to sound arrogant- I know I was vague, but I meant that everything was in place up to around this point... NewBWFC aren't just gonna come along and be in the conference I didn't mean you, I meant in general, people thinking we'll just drop into a league with Chorley or whoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon boy Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Howardroark said: Ken Whoops! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Faustus Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 a lot of folk seem to have this romantic idealism that a phoenix will rise from the ashes, be made up of local lads in pristine white shirts, play dazzling football and bask in glorious sun... far, far from it I think if Scotland wasn't such a one horsed race, Rangers II would still be playing Stranraer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farnywhite Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 Well if it gets to that how many people would actually bother if it’s not the club we support now and some new entirety called Bolton town or what ever .Would follow bwfc but nothing else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Faustus Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Farnywhite said: Well if it gets to that how many people would actually bother if it’s not the club we support now and some new entirety called Bolton town or what ever .Would follow bwfc but nothing else that's where I think I'm at... and I don't want to think of it any further Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc505 Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Farnywhite said: Well if it gets to that how many people would actually bother if it’s not the club we support now and some new entirety called Bolton town or what ever .Would follow bwfc but nothing else With the amount of infighting and arguing over every last detail? It'd take till about 2030 to start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kane57 Posted March 15, 2019 Author Share Posted March 15, 2019 14 minutes ago, Eddie said: It’ll be reet. People have too much money to lose for us to go bump. Someone will snap us up when there’s no more time to negotiate. We’ll head in to league one with a new owner and Nobby Nolan leading us to glory! Spot on, if you take away the glory bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted March 15, 2019 Moderators Share Posted March 15, 2019 Folk will believe Howard or they won't He all but predicted this latest development And if you now look back through his posts, you'll probably find some speculation but he's on the money far more times than anybody else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySanchez Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 12 minutes ago, Dr Faustus said: a lot of folk seem to have this romantic idealism that a phoenix will rise from the ashes, be made up of local lads in pristine white shirts, play dazzling football and bask in glorious sun... far, far from it I think if Scotland wasn't such a one horsed race, Rangers II would still be playing Stranraer Read that when they were in the third division they still had the second highest wage bill in Scotland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Casino said: Folk will believe Howard or they won't He all but predicted this latest development And if you now look back through his posts, you'll probably find some speculation but he's on the money far more times than anybody else And there are more than a couple of occasions where he has highlighted the ‘other’ buyer, dealing directly with Moonshift. I’m reading that as “Basran might be the name in the press but there’s a more genuine bid that’s going under the radar (Stelios?) and waiting in the wings.” Apologies if I’ve completely misread your comments Howard. Edited March 15, 2019 by Eddie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Faustus Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 Just now, DirtySanchez said: Read that when they were in the third division they still had the second highest wage bill in Scotland They also had recognised international footballers TUPEd across. Clayton's upset there's no crisps and he has to wear his big brother's boots. Any correlation between our potential destiny and Rangers end with the number of lost pissed up loyalists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rochdale white Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 7 minutes ago, Casino said: Folk will believe Howard or they won't He all but predicted this latest development And if you now look back through his posts, you'll probably find some speculation but he's on the money far more times than anybody else That’s fine. But you’re from a position of knowing who he is Casino, through a PM. Until I know further, regarding his background and motives, I’ll reserve judgement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howardroark Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, Eddie said: And there are more than a couple of occasions where he has highlighted the ‘other’ buyer, dealing directly with Moonshift. I’m reading that as “Basran might be the name in the press but there’s a more genuine bid that’s going under the radar (Stelios?) and waiting in the wings.” Apologies if I’ve completely misread your comments Howard. Understood them entirely, remember, money talks whereas wealth whispers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted March 15, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted March 15, 2019 22 minutes ago, Carlos said: I didn't mean you, I meant in general, people thinking we'll just drop into a league with Chorley or whoever. Genuine question, would clubs want a new bwfc rattling around with them? Potential for a new club to rip up lower leagues and distort natural progression of other teams. Would they actually be happy to be away from the potential hassle of hosting an unknown quantity, that could result from a comparative Goliath coming to town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farnywhite Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 (edited) They would want the income . didn’t stop Glasgow rangers dop to the level they dropped can’t see England being any different for a mid level club Edited March 15, 2019 by Farnywhite Update Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave2980 Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Howardroark said: Didn’t pay NI contributions I believe. Partly right. They had set up an employee benefit Trust which at the time was a legal tax avoidance loophole. HMRC and the government closed the loophole and went after anyone who had used this method of tax avoidance. They then became liable for all the PAYE and NI that would have been due on the monies held in trust Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howardroark Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 Just in respect of the poster who said “too many people have too much money to lose”..... Whilst people will lose money, it absolutely will not be anybody who has the financial means to the save the club. The assets that would be sold are worth more than the value of the secured debt (PBP, Ken/Moonshift, Warbs) therefore they would receive in full. It’s the residual creditors who take an equal share (pence in the £) that lose out. The only saving grace is that under liquidation Ken would not get anything, unless he did a deal with Moonshift to pay back less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farnywhite Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 That’s good to know so what does ken and the club have to cover to avoid liquidation ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 Kin ell, approx 200 e mails about the takeover. Can someone paraphrase (word of the month) where we are at please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUREADY2ROLL Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, royal white said: Kin ell, approx 200 e mails about the takeover. Can someone paraphrase (word of the month) where we are at please In the shit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howardroark Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Farnywhite said: That’s good to know so what does ken and the club have to cover to avoid liquidation ? Officially £1.2M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted March 15, 2019 Moderators Share Posted March 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, royal white said: Kin ell, approx 200 e mails about the takeover. Can someone paraphrase (word of the month) where we are at please Iles and Nixon say we are in the shit Howard says hold on tight Twists and turns to come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darwen_white Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 The deal must be off for a reason. What reason? Another bidder, surely... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, Casino said: Iles and Nixon say we are in the shit Howard says hold on tight Twists and turns to come Many thanks! No change then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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