Coronavirus

[Zico]

28 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

I reckon sending students up to universities made things better, looking at the bigger picture. Would still have gathered in their local communities and raised infections there. At least in accommodation blocks they can be isolated more effectively, maybe getting the worst over before proper winter.

As for schools, plenty were complaining that the kid's mental health as well as education was suffering. Not directly an economic issue, but one which has economic benefits. 

Strangely, as loads seem to fall into the categories you state, is suggests the government is following a middle way, much like the rest of the developed world.

Even Nicola, who certainly seemed to present a more coordinated message initially, has essentially the same levels of infections and problems and shit loads of criticism from Scottish folk.

Welsh mon similarly, especially after yesterday. 

aye, don't get me wrong, I think schools and unis had to go back, it's more a retort to those that want to crack on, as in, that's exactly what we were doing all be it gradually

I guess it comes down to the middle ground either being too slow for some, and too quick for others

you're either fed up with it all, or still cautious - and in most cases, fair to say that's guided by personal circumstance

covid fatigue was always going to kick in, just a shame for me we didn't do as much as we could have early doors, and I'm certain we did so to give as much life to the economy as we could either side of locking down, so I don't buy it now that the current measures are that short sighted or ignorant to the damage it could do, because the short term has to be to keep as many out of hospital as we possibly can, whilst still letting people have some sense of freedom, even if it does end at 10pm, in the north

Edited October 20, 2020 by ZicoKelly

[bolton_blondie]

59 minutes ago, kent_white said:

HR are really good. Sometimes the Line Managers misinterpret things. 

If you've no annual leave to take (based on where you are in the year pro-rata) - then they sometimes let you take it as emergency leave. If you have annual to take (based on where you are in the year pro-rata) but that's because you've cancelled a load to meet service demand - then it seems pretty unreasonable to not allow you to take it as emergency leave.

Does that make any sense?

Yes it does cheers. 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

2 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

Worse; he’s in the way.

When we invented local Mayors for non-existent entities, did we really anoint them with so much power?

This arsehole doesn’t speak for me.

I'm no fan of the mayors, but it seems its part of the "English devolution". I dont agree with him, but rightly or wrongly that's democracy I suppose!

Same could be said of MPs. 

[Sweep]

28 minutes ago, miamiwhite said:

Forgot to say, when I posted it, it did look like a confirmed order. Only when efforts have been made to speak to the company etc, then it could have changed. Will be interested to see what is really going on there, it's like a step forward then 2 back.

Agreed, it should be higher than it is, fuck knows why it's being held back......something isn't right

[Guest]

1 minute ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

I'm no fan of the mayors, but it seems its part of the "English devolution". I dont agree with him, but rightly or wrongly that's democracy I suppose!

Same could be said of MPs. 

The irony is that I’m all for devolution of decision making to the most appropriate level!

 

[Cheese]

4 minutes ago, Sweep said:

Agreed, it should be higher than it is, fuck knows why it's being held back......something isn't right

Has miami prematurely shot his load again?

[Tonge moor green jacket]

5 minutes ago, ZicoKelly said:

aye, don't get me wrong, I think schools and unis had to go back, it's more a retort to those that want to crack on, as in, that's exactly what we were doing all be it gradually

I guess it comes down to the middle ground either being too slow for some, and too quick for others

you're either fed up with it all, or still cautious

covid fatigue was always going to kick in, just a shame for me we didn't do as much as we could have early doors, and I'm certain we did so to give as much life to the economy as we could either side of locking down, so I don't buy it now that the current measures are that short sighted or ignorant to the damage it could do, because the short term has to be to keep as many out of hospital as we possibly can, whilst still letting people have some sense of freedom, even if it does end at 10pm, in the north

👍 

Agree. We have to get tougher locally, as soon as possible and see how that works.

Not sure it has to be nationwide just yet, hopefully lower infection areas with lower restrictions will manage, with reviews according to need.

 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

6 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

The irony is that I’m all for devolution of decision making to the most appropriate level!

 

Will all devolved regions and nations agree to a review of powers once all this is over? 🤔

Can't see it somehow!

4 minutes ago, Mr Grey said:

I think he's done okay, but I'm sure there's an element of him trying to endear himself to the people of Manchester, when are the Mayoral elelections? 

Of course there is, as there is with MPs. GM tories agreeing with him. Meanwhile in Scotland tories and Labour digging at Mary. In Wales, Plaid Cymru digging at labour Drakeford. Plenty of politics and posturing going on all over.

[peelyfeet]

We're going into Tier  of sorts,  I'm 99.99% sure.

Burham may have got some more cash.

There will possibly be further restrictions required on top of Tier 3, nationwide, possibly for months

What happens then - we will need more cash, are we spening some of that now?

Short termism from loads of folk,  on both sides.

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Will all devolved regions and nations agree to a review of powers once all this is over? 🤔

Can't see it somehow!

Of course there is, as there is with MPs. GM tories agreeing with him. Meanwhile in Scotland tories and Labour digging at Mary. In Wales, Plaid Cymru digging at labour Drakeford. Plenty of politics and posturing going on all over.

I don’t think GM Tories do agree with him

[Spider]

I’ve had to go to Blackburn and Burnley for work today.

Based on what I’ve seen, Tier 3 is simply a notion.

Its changed fuck all in Lancashire.

Don't know what the fuss is about.

[Farrelli]

56 minutes ago, jules_darby said:

By the corrupt and inept govt - yes

Yep. 

[Escobarp]

[Zico]

can the world not just get together and agree to print more money or accept fake £20s?

[Tonge moor green jacket]

6 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

I don’t think GM Tories do agree with him

In respect of tier 3 they do. Sir Graham Brady asking for more cash the other day for example. Beyond that, of course they dont want a lockdown.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

7 minutes ago, Spider said:

I’ve had to go to Blackburn and Burnley for work today.

Based on what I’ve seen, Tier 3 is simply a notion.

Its changed fuck all in Lancashire.

Don't know what the fuss is about.

Didn't try to get a pint then?

[L/H White]

4 minutes ago, ZicoKelly said:

can the world not just get together and agree to print more money or accept fake £20s?

close everything down bar hospitals and emergency services until Jan, and print shit loads of money

it's not fucking rocket science eh zico

[Spider]

1 minute ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Didn't try to get a pint then?

Not drinking at the minute.

no elderly relatives & sober

Thats how you defeat Covid.

[Mounts Kipper]

29 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

I'm no fan of the mayors, but it seems its part of the "English devolution". I dont agree with him, but rightly or wrongly that's democracy I suppose!

Same could be said of MPs. 

Sadly the mayorship to often falls into jumped up little wannabes. Let them wear a chain for ceremonial purposes but shut the fuck up. 

[Spider]

Just now, Mounts Kipper said:

Sadly the mayorship to often falls into jumped up little wannabes. Let them wear a chain for ceremonial purposes but shut the fuck up. 

How dare you talk about the Queen like that

[Tonge moor green jacket]

Just now, Spider said:

Not drinking at the minute.

no elderly relatives & sober

Thats how you defeat Covid.

Not taking kids to soft play areas neither I suppose. 

Generally, I think youre right, there isn't a massive difference- the business closures apart.

Arguably the biggest social difference is not being able to meet folk outside- add that to boozers going and a welcome chinwag being unavailable may well be a right bugger for plenty.

[Spider]

6 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Not taking kids to soft play areas neither I suppose. 

Generally, I think youre right, there isn't a massive difference- the business closures apart.

Arguably the biggest social difference is not being able to meet folk outside- add that to boozers going and a welcome chinwag being unavailable may well be a right bugger for plenty.

Obviously I’m being facetious 😊

but these restrictions are only in place to suppress the spread as we know. I think it’s late felt accepted that spread will happen at work but not in anything like the way it does socially.

Because 90% of folk behave at work.

Its absolutely awful to say, but I think it’ll be tier 3 all the way until spring.

[Zico]

so

who's making plans for Christmas Day?

I'd happily have my immediates round, from 3 different households, as I basically know where they've been

[Guest]

29 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

In respect of tier 3 they do. Sir Graham Brady asking for more cash the other day for example. Beyond that, of course they dont want a lockdown.

He doesn’t want Tier 3

[Mounts Kipper]

4 minutes ago, ZicoKelly said:

so

who's making plans for Christmas Day?

I'd happily have my immediates round, from 3 different households, as I basically know where they've been

Aye, flights booked and Turkey dinner ordered at our local restaurant.