Flour Cakes or Barms in Bolton

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1 hour ago, Escobarp said:

 

up here they are called rolls. So it’s a chip roll or bacon roll. It takes a twist if you want a sausage barm/roll though as you then have to ask for a roll and sausage. Which even happens if it’s a square sausage you are asking for when technically you could ask for a square sausage roll Without causing the same confusion as you would asking for a sausage roll. You must ask for a roll and square sausage. Strange the Scottish. 

that's like a post from E2R2 or whatever he's called - I can't decipher it at all

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1 hour ago, DazBob said:

They're barms.  Anyone suggesting otherwise is just attention seeking. 

correct

[Escobarp]

Just now, Sweep said:

that's like a post from E2R2 or whatever he's called - I can't decipher it at all

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[Youri McAnespie]

Hee-yaar hee-yaar aar kid...

I think we can gather who had Sharp duvet covers as kids.

The first time I ever heard 'barm' was in a chippy when I was about nine or ten and a mate ordered one.

I didn't even know it was a thing until then (a chip barm) - even then I presumed it was just a way of selling less chips for the same price.

Buying bread in any format from the chippy was forbidden in my household, there was bread in the crock and spread in the fridge.

As someone points out, barm is yeast-related, in bakeries the barm was the portion of dough retained to kickstart the next day's batch.

Bread made with barm has more substance and is more sturdy - ideal for chips or fried fish.

A flourcake is softer and lighter - one might have ham and pickled onions on one.

If one asks in a butty shop for say a Tuna 'barm' you're probably one generation from some Collyhurst shithole.

Oven bottoms? They're easy to get wrong and best avoided.

Teacakes, muffins, buns etc. are sweet items to anyone sane and not the result of years of interbreeding.

I proudly fly the Lancastrian flag and refuse point blank to acknowledge these idiotic terms when travelling abroad...Inbred: "Don't y'mean a fish teacake?" Me: "Teacakes have currants in, so no ta..."

Edited April 27, 2021 by Youri McAnespie

[Dimron]

3 hours ago, boltondiver said:

Correct, but nobody ever asks for a “chip flour cake”

In my travels, have only known them to be called flour cakes in Bolton but Boltoners have always been different. Being born and bred Bolton and raised there in the 1960s & 70s they were always flour cakes. It's probably an age thing, I accept that these differences have now been eroded, I still say Buz rather than Bus and refer to folk as "me old cock-sparrer" to my Cambridge born wife's amusement.

What I do hate are those bread rolls with a hard brown crust that take the skin off the roof of your mouth, they sell them in London sandwich shops often with vile liver sausage filling... and when I first went in a chippy down there I didn't know what the fk a saveloy was, having tried one you can stick it, it's got an ideal shape for an arse.

 

[Youri McAnespie]

My sister (aspirins/ironing board) used to have a bakery, some bloke asked her for a bacon teacake, being a polite sort she presumed he was an inbred simpleton and didn't correct him but made him a bacon flourcake.

He came back in straightaway, he'd actually wanted bacon on a curranted sweet teacake.

Some old bloke had salt in his coffee instead of sugar an' all.

[Dimron]

11 minutes ago, Youri McAnespie said:

My sister (aspirins/ironing board) used to have a bakery, some bloke asked her for a bacon teacake, being a polite sort she presumed he was an inbred simpleton and didn't correct him but made him a bacon flourcake.

He came back in straightaway, he'd actually wanted bacon on a curranted sweet teacake.

Some old bloke had salt in his coffee instead of sugar an' all.

and which bit of Bury did he come from?

[Youri McAnespie]

Which one, bacon teacake or salted coffee?

[H]

They were flour cakes as a kid in the fifties and they still are for me even though nobody down here has any idea what I'm on about

[Rudy]

I did notice greenhalghs had flour cakes listed on their menu 

[Youri McAnespie]

13 hours ago, leigh white said:

That is the end of an uncut Asda Tiger Bloomer loaf with what appears to be chippy chips, though not chippy gravy (too globulous) and hovering over a plate of oven or deep-fry French Fries.

In short whoever it is is a bastard.

[Youri McAnespie]

That fork looks photoshopped in an' all...

[bolton_blondie]

38 minutes ago, Youri McAnespie said:

My sister (aspirins/ironing board) used to have a bakery, some bloke asked her for a bacon teacake, being a polite sort she presumed he was an inbred simpleton and didn't correct him but made him a bacon flourcake.

He came back in straightaway, he'd actually wanted bacon on a curranted sweet teacake.

Some old bloke had salt in his coffee instead of sugar an' all.

My dad has a pinch of salt in his coffee. Weirdo. 

[Youri McAnespie]

Well that's two as the other bloke is brown bread.

 

[Youri McAnespie]

I imagine it tastes like Bovril.

Salt in other words.

I've only ever bought/drank Bovril at the match.

They should involve it in eco-renewable energy generation as I say 'drank' - it's always been that hot, even after waiting for it to cool, that I've only ever managed two sips, burned my mouth, then fucked it and sobriety off and bought a pint or several instead.

Then about three or ten months later this pantomime gets repeated.

Edited April 27, 2021 by Youri McAnespie

[ErnestTurnip]

From a value point of view should you not always get a bag of chips and a barm and not just a chip barm?

Surely youri or someone has done research into this?

[MickyD]

Mate of mine used to live in the flat above a small bakery in Chorlton. Stayed there one Friday and was awoken at around 05.00 with banging, mixing and then an hour or so later, the most amazing smells.

The lad whose flat it was nipped out and took a loaf, sliced it lengthways (end to end) and put best butter on. Fucking amazing!

[Whitestar]

Off topic but related, you should always get puddin peas & gravy in a tray and the chips seperate, get more.

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1 hour ago, Dimron said:

In my travels, have only known them to be called flour cakes in Bolton but Boltoners have always been different. Being born and bred Bolton and raised there in the 1960s & 70s they were always flour cakes. It's probably an age thing, I accept that these differences have now been eroded, I still say Buz rather than Bus and refer to folk as "me old cock-sparrer" to my Cambridge born wife's amusement.

 

 

I'm not having it that's a Bolton, or even a Northern thing to say.......

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3 minutes ago, MickyD said:

 

The lad whose flat it was nipped out and took a loaf, sliced it lengthways (end to end) and put best butter on. Fucking amazing!

I've always wondered where that saying comes from, did people used to keep some decent butter for special occasions and use some old shit butter for normal day to day?

[ErnestTurnip]

6 minutes ago, MickyD said:

The lad whose flat it was nipped out and took a loaf, sliced it lengthways (end to end) and put best butter on. Fucking amazing!

Used to get em fresh off the line before the slicers at Warbies and do the same thing with butter out of the big fridge in the mixing room, nowt better.

[MancWanderer]

5 hours ago, boltondiver said:

Correct, but nobody ever asks for a “chip flour cake”

No one ever does. Correct. 

2 hours ago, Youri McAnespie said:

Bread made with barm has more substance and is more sturdy - ideal for chips or fried fish.

A flourcake is softer and lighter - one might have ham and pickled onions on one.

If one asks in a butty shop for say a Tuna 'barm' you're probably one generation from some Collyhurst shithole.

As Youri correctly points out you need the substance of a barm cake for your chips and gravy. A flour cake would go all mushy

However, in Collyhurst they sell tuna muffins ffs!! Weirdos

[Leyther_Matt]

Never heard of a flour cake in my life. 

[Youri McAnespie]

Yeah, but you call mice 'moggies'.

[MickyD]

22 minutes ago, Sweep said:

I've always wondered where that saying comes from, did people used to keep some decent butter for special occasions and use some old shit butter for normal day to day?

Think it was to differentiate proper butter from margarine or vegetable oil based spread.