DazBob Posted July 9, 2023 Posted July 9, 2023 50 minutes ago, Horwich said: Fountain of all knowledge to say you think that Anderson will come in on his home ground, after about 10 days rest 🙄 This coming from the one who said it'd be 5-0? Quote
Casino Posted July 9, 2023 Author Posted July 9, 2023 10 minutes ago, DazBob said: This coming from the one who said it'd be 5-0? While the aussies would feel very hard done to, it could be 3 0 England now Theres nobody can argue that us being level would flatter us Quote
L/H White Posted July 9, 2023 Posted July 9, 2023 13 minutes ago, Casino said: While the aussies would feel very hard done to, it could be 3 0 England now Theres nobody can argue that us being level would flatter us Said that before, could easily be 3-0 / 2-1 either one Seen this earlier Quote
desperado Posted July 9, 2023 Posted July 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, L/H White said: Said that before, could easily be 3-0 / 2-1 either one Seen this earlier Cracking stat that 👏 Quote
Casino Posted July 9, 2023 Author Posted July 9, 2023 Just now, L/H White said: Said that before, could easily be 3-0 / 2-1 either one Seen this earlier I think the 2nd test was prob fair enough for them to win but we couldve nicked it, but we shouldve closed out the first One thing that surpises me is that boland and the back up spinner are close to their team Quote
L/H White Posted July 9, 2023 Posted July 9, 2023 37 minutes ago, desperado said: Cracking stat that 👏 Quote
Traf Posted July 9, 2023 Posted July 9, 2023 If the team batting 4th wins the game (as they have twice so far), scores are obviously going to be very close, so I'm not setting much stall by that data. Quote
desperado Posted July 10, 2023 Posted July 10, 2023 8 hours ago, Traf said: If the team batting 4th wins the game (as they have twice so far), scores are obviously going to be very close, so I'm not setting much stall by that data. Even as I’m writing this I’m not convinced the point I’m making below fully supports my perspective, as it’s early and I’ve not fully thought the maths through and/or got time to compare to other test series… But does the fact that on each chasing occasion, for one to get within 43 runs and the others to have gone to 2/3 wickets not validate the stat more, as both the runs and the wickets are very close? I’d be surprised if many other series’ have got stats as close as that. (But as I say I may be wrong) On the face of it I think it’s a good stat that validates how close it’s been. Quote
globaldiver Posted July 10, 2023 Posted July 10, 2023 I reckon Australia might go to OT without a spinner, playing both all rounders. They’d be content with a draw to retain. Quote
Ani Posted July 10, 2023 Posted July 10, 2023 10 hours ago, Casino said: I think the 2nd test was prob fair enough for them to win but we couldve nicked it, but we shouldve closed out the first One thing that surpises me is that boland and the back up spinner are close to their team I sad yesterday that Cummins did not seem to want to bowl the spinner, ( to be clear nothing to do with Archer !! 😂😎). The knock on from that is the other bowlers are called on more, once you are through Starc and Cummins the drop off to Boland and Marsh is pretty steep. Woods and Woakes both had very good games at Headingley. I doubt they will risk Robinson so either Jimmy plays which is the emotional call, or Tongue. It is a tough one. Foakes for Bairstow seems an obvious change. With YJB averaging only 23 so far in the series. (Almost identical record to Warner) . I think it is unfair to think YJB could come back from nearly a year out and play as a batsman/keeper without any issues. Quote
Ani Posted July 10, 2023 Posted July 10, 2023 12 minutes ago, globaldiver said: I reckon Australia might go to OT without a spinner, playing both all rounders. They’d be content with a draw to retain. They also have a call to make on Warner, awful last tour here and struggling again. Even Smith has only had one good innings. If England can tighten up their fielding it puts massive pressure and their batsmen. I know it is not linear but not dropping Marsh in first innings and the scores change massively. Quote
globaldiver Posted July 10, 2023 Posted July 10, 2023 44 minutes ago, Ani said: They also have a call to make on Warner, awful last tour here and struggling again. Even Smith has only had one good innings. If England can tighten up their fielding it puts massive pressure and their batsmen. I know it is not linear but not dropping Marsh in first innings and the scores change massively. It might be linear, we’ll never know. Our ability to take 20 wickets is fundamental Quote
Ani Posted July 10, 2023 Posted July 10, 2023 32 minutes ago, globaldiver said: It might be linear, we’ll never know. Our ability to take 20 wickets is fundamental What I meant is saying we dropped Marsh on 13 and he went on to make 100+ plus so we can 'knock' 80 or so off their total does not work , as if you change any point in history you do not know the impact on other events 😀. Have you not seen Hot Tub Time Machine ? 😂😂 Taking catches would be a good idea though Quote
globaldiver Posted July 10, 2023 Posted July 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Ani said: What I meant is saying we dropped Marsh on 13 and he went on to make 100+ plus so we can 'knock' 80 or so off their total does not work , as if you change any point in history you do not know the impact on other events 😀. Have you not seen Hot Tub Time Machine ? 😂😂 Taking catches would be a good idea though I got what you meant and agree, to the extent that we’ll never know! It might be linear! Quote
globaldiver Posted July 10, 2023 Posted July 10, 2023 1 hour ago, BobyBrno said: Proper cricket😳 Went to the infamous match at OT when Erdrich and Close basically stood there to be hit. Then went off to swim for Bolton. Quote
Ani Posted July 10, 2023 Posted July 10, 2023 2027 Ashes has no Northern Test how fucked up is that ? Quote
Smiley Posted July 10, 2023 Posted July 10, 2023 7 minutes ago, Ani said: 2027 Ashes has no Northern Test how fucked up is that ? Trent Bridge got one? Maybe they class anything past Birmingham as North. Quote
globaldiver Posted July 10, 2023 Posted July 10, 2023 43 minutes ago, Ani said: 2027 Ashes has no Northern Test how fucked up is that ? It’s just wrong Quote
jeep Posted July 10, 2023 Posted July 10, 2023 37 minutes ago, desperado said: Think this would be my 11 for Old Trafford I did this earlier today, picked exactly same team, same positions as well. You obviously know your cricket.... 😁 Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted July 10, 2023 Posted July 10, 2023 Brave selection. Bairstow is still likely to score more runs than Moeen. Can Moeen get the requisite wickets/hold up an end- OT usually offers some turn? If Foakes plays, do you need a decent spinner to get the edges and misses that allow catches/stumpings to be taken by a good keeper? Difficult deliberations. Quote
BobyBrno Posted July 11, 2023 Posted July 11, 2023 No Foakes in the squad. That’ll disappoint a few, including me. Quote
jeep Posted July 11, 2023 Posted July 11, 2023 8 minutes ago, BobyBrno said: No Foakes in the squad. That’ll disappoint a few, including me. Shocking decision.... Quote
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