radcliffe white Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 2 hours ago, jmjhb said: Dion Charles 320k CMG 300k Vic 500k Dan 200k? Collins 750k Over 2M on forwards alone right there. And we're starting Jerome (out of necessity, i know). Can't say he's not been backed. Add Forrester reportedly 300k he’s had it good Evatt compared to other clubs in the top 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmjhb Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 28 minutes ago, Stig said: There's definitely a re-sale problem with a lot of the strikers quoted above. Only Charles I think where we'd get a profit, and even then not massive at his age. Just need to get promoted and get more investment in, we've got noone to sell to become sustainable. We've got plenty of assets, arguably the most saleable are the ones we got on frees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted April 17 Moderators Share Posted April 17 3 hours ago, masi 51 said: Wilson, Baccus, and Taylor would have got us Promoted JDC got in the team of the year Don't know enough about Baccus to know if he's better than Sheehan, Thommason or Magohma or which one he'd replace Taylor, maybe, he's on 9 in 17 compared to Collins 7 in 17 The squad is plenty good enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesince63 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 3 hours ago, captainmed said: He may be but at least he knows how to get there. He’s on a 5 year contract isn’t he and why would the owner sack him if he’s achieved their aim? Derby isn’t Rotherham, they’re not going to sell their best players under him like Rotherham always did and then not replace them. I believe their embargo also ends so they’re free to do what they like and a big part of that will be ensuring they stay up. I don’t see Warne being sacked at all and expect him to really surprise people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 8 hours ago, radcliffe white said: Add Forrester reportedly 300k he’s had it good Evatt compared to other clubs in the top 6 One of those players above have been fit for the past 2 months. Said it a million times. Nobody is winning promotion with only 3 fit forwards that include a 39 year old cwt horse and bod who can't score. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted April 18 Site Supporter Share Posted April 18 Thunderclaps are great, but you don’t get many points for them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesince63 Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 23 minutes ago, gonzo said: One of those players above have been fit for the past 2 months. Said it a million times. Nobody is winning promotion with only 3 fit forwards that include a 39 year old cwt horse and bod who can't score. To be fair to Bod in two critical games at Pompey and Derby away he was only denied game changing goals by incredible point blank saves the one at Derby leading to Dions miss and at Derby arguably Wildsmiths save of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 39 minutes ago, gonzo said: One of those players above have been fit for the past 2 months. Said it a million times. Nobody is winning promotion with only 3 fit forwards that include a 39 year old cwt horse and bod who can't score. So then like I said plenty of times recruitment is questionable going back 2/3 windows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 Just now, radcliffe white said: So then like I said plenty of times recruitment is questionable going back 2/3 windows Having 5 out of 8 forwards injured for the most part of the season isn't down to recruitment mate. Dion and Vic had us flying, as much as Vic has his detractors, I'm one of em! But losing them, then Dions form and injury left us with a new signing in Collins and Bod who can't score and a 97 year old. I know other teams have had injuries but I doubt many lost their main two strikers and had 5 out of 8 forwards injured. You just can't account for that. Your bringing Jerome on at Derby to Derby to win the game instead of CMG, Vic or Dion/Bod. Just isn't good enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burndens Bogs Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 (edited) Getting Santos, Jones and Charles back to full fitness for the play-offs should be our priority. I’d rest all 3 on Saturday, regardless of them being prepared to play. Edited April 18 by Burndens Bogs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 5 minutes ago, gonzo said: Having 5 out of 8 forwards injured for the most part of the season isn't down to recruitment mate. Dion and Vic had us flying, as much as Vic has his detractors, I'm one of em! But losing them, then Dions form and injury left us with a new signing in Collins and Bod who can't score and a 97 year old. I know other teams have had injuries but I doubt many lost their main two strikers and had 5 out of 8 forwards injured. You just can't account for that. Your bringing Jerome on at Derby to Derby to win the game instead of CMG, Vic or Dion/Bod. Just isn't good enough. You take Bod his career injuries surely should’ve been a red flag I get the risk & reward but this hasn’t paid off for me, Jerome I get the idea behind but go for a younger journeyman CMG obviously not seen enough to judge but he isn’t an out & out striker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meanderson93 Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 10 hours ago, only1swanny said: FWIW think it's great that we have a manager that so many clubs get wound up about. I actually think this is one of the things about him that damages us the most, his comments around games and regarding his own opinion of our ability only serves to get other teams more up for games against us. He winds people and opposition up to the point of them having additional motivation, and doesn't seem to be able to give his own players that for the big games. It's a worrying trait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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masi 51 Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 12 hours ago, Mounts Kipper said: Run their course!! FFS! Turned club round completely, record ST sales, upgrading hotel, put in fanzone, got the town on side brought in Swiss investors, invested in good players, got us promoted, could be promoted again this season… who you think gonna come in and do better… you’re away with the fairies. Evatt has been a big part of turning this club around but i like others think rightly or wrongly he has run his course. Season ticket sales are great but you as well as i know 15k people have not bought one season ticket each. The fanzone was inside, now it is outside in the rain and cold. If there was a couple of pubs on the complex it would be deserted. The Swiss investors are a strange one. I dont buy that a bunch of families all of a sudden want to parade around Zurich with Bolton tops on. FV have diluted there holdings in the club why??? Simple they dont want to invest more than what they bought the club for. Again they are clever business people so i cannot fault them but obviously they are not prepared to through money around. The Government, Swiss and the Bond scheme have invested in players and infrastructure as laid out. See you just come out with statements like i am away with the faries............I countered everything you say. It is a forum.....I may be wrong maybe right but at least let people air their views Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 14 hours ago, jmjhb said: Dion Charles 320k CMG 300k Vic 500k Dan 200k? Collins 750k Over 2M on forwards alone right there. And we're starting Jerome (out of necessity, i know). Can't say he's not been backed. How many games have these played in the second half of the season? Collins accounts for over a third of that money and he's proving to be a good acquisition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 4 minutes ago, masi 51 said: Evatt has been a big part of turning this club around but i like others think rightly or wrongly he has run his course. Season ticket sales are great but you as well as i know 15k people have not bought one season ticket each. The fanzone was inside, now it is outside in the rain and cold. If there was a couple of pubs on the complex it would be deserted. The Swiss investors are a strange one. I dont buy that a bunch of families all of a sudden want to parade around Zurich with Bolton tops on. FV have diluted there holdings in the club why??? Simple they dont want to invest more than what they bought the club for. Again they are clever business people so i cannot fault them but obviously they are not prepared to through money around. The Government, Swiss and the Bond scheme have invested in players and infrastructure as laid out. See you just come out with statements like i am away with the faries............I countered everything you say. It is a forum.....I may be wrong maybe right but at least let people air their views What's your solution then Mr Sunshine and Giggles? Get the tennis balls out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masi 51 Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 1 minute ago, gonzo said: What's your solution then Mr Sunshine and Giggles? Get the tennis balls out? solution............what is the problem?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 15 hours ago, masi 51 said: Wilson, Baccus, and Taylor would have got us Promoted Wilson's goal against us shouldn't have stood Baccus has 1 goal and 1 assist from 26 games in a pub league Taylor has fared no better than Collins Who else should we have signed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySanchez Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 3 minutes ago, gonzo said: What's your solution then Mr Sunshine and Giggles? Get the tennis balls out? Build a pub near the ground It's such a trek to harvester Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masi 51 Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 Fv own and run the club until THEY sell up and move. Not done anything wrong up until now, i am just stating that they may have run as far as they can with the club. Great if they stay on but dont come on here pre-season and next season whining they are no longer investing in the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masi 51 Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 2 minutes ago, DirtySanchez said: Build a pub near the ground It's such a trek to harvester pub?????.......aye alright Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySanchez Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 1 minute ago, masi 51 said: pub?????.......aye alright It serves alcohol in glasses What are you expecting from a pub on a retail park which would be better to be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUREADY2ROLL Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 3 hours ago, gonzo said: Having 5 out of 8 forwards injured for the most part of the season isn't down to recruitment mate. Dion and Vic had us flying, as much as Vic has his detractors, I'm one of em! But losing them, then Dions form and injury left us with a new signing in Collins and Bod who can't score and a 97 year old. I know other teams have had injuries but I doubt many lost their main two strikers and had 5 out of 8 forwards injured. You just can't account for that. Your bringing Jerome on at Derby to Derby to win the game instead of CMG, Vic or Dion/Bod. Just isn't good enough. It proves that the recruitment has been appalling; BOD, Jerome, Dan, Vic shouldn’t have been here this season. Similarly Wilson for Derby has been brilliant against a reasonable but no where near Cogley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masi 51 Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 3 minutes ago, Traf said: Wilson's goal against us shouldn't have stood Baccus has 1 goal and 1 assist from 26 games in a pub league Taylor has fared no better than Collins Who else should we have signed? Leonard at Northampton if possible,Collins from Exeter two that stand out, Connell....I dont think our signings have been bad, just think we missed a few key signings to get us across the line Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted April 18 Moderators Share Posted April 18 3 minutes ago, RUREADY2ROLL said: It proves that the recruitment has been appalling; BOD, Jerome, Dan, Vic shouldn’t have been here this season. Similarly Wilson for Derby has been brilliant against a reasonable but no where near Cogley. just because you don't see what he offers, doesn't make him a bad player we were as good as anybody in the league with him playing youd have been wetting your crusty knickers if we had signed a crocked wilson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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