radcliffe white Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 It sounds gay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted February 8 Moderators Share Posted February 8 Dissent fair enough but some refs are more sensitive than others Would even do it for diving Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 Just now, Zico said: Dissent fair enough but some refs are more sensitive than others Would even do it for diving Dissent is a yellow card now in theory and hardly gets given, so it would to be really bad for a blue, and even worse for a straight red, that it can be now. Total bollocks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MancWanderer Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 Works well in Rugby League. But…. So does the video ref And the refs, in general, are pretty good And it’s sin bin or off And it’s pretty clear what constitutes what And the players respect the ref So it’s a shite idea in football as none of the above apply Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waffer cup 07 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 All these changes to the game over the years, not sure any of them were needed or have improved the game. Its a no from me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter FrancisFogarty Posted February 8 Site Supporter Share Posted February 8 GIven the shit officials we've had the last few seasons anything that makes it more complicated for them is a no from me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyther_Matt Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 2 hours ago, Zico said: Just going off the article in the telegraph 'Players will be shown a blue card and sent to the sin-bin for ten minutes if they show dissent to officials or commit a cynical foul." Definition of a cynical foul "When a player intentionally fouls an opponent to disrupt a promising attack, " At least VAR can slow the game down and use lines to determine if someone is offside or a ball has crossed a line But how do you measure cynicism? Can you commit a cynical foul in your own half? Point being surely bringing this level of subjectivity into play is just going to lead to more delays and reviews, to not just determine if it's a foul but how cynical it was to determine what colour card they get It's bollocks I assume there would be a distinction between ‘promising attack’ and the current ‘goalscoring opportunity’. Think we had one on Saturday when we were making a break so they just took out one of our players but wouldn’t be a red because they weren’t last man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted February 8 Moderators Share Posted February 8 2 minutes ago, Leyther_Matt said: I assume there would be a distinction between ‘promising attack’ and the current ‘goalscoring opportunity’. Think we had one on Saturday when we were making a break so they just took out one of our players but wouldn’t be a red because they weren’t last man. It will be a case of a clear and obvious goal scoring opportunity being prevented by a clear and obvious degree of cynicism so I'm sure it will all run smoothly and I'm all for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyther_Matt Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 1 minute ago, Zico said: It will be a case of a clear and obvious goal scoring opportunity being prevented by a clear and obvious degree of cynicism so I'm sure it will all run smoothly and I'm all for it I’m assuming that will still be a red card and this will kind of fill the gap. Although I’ve hated the straight red card situation ever since we had that ridiculous one in the 7-1 at Accrington. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted February 8 Moderators Share Posted February 8 1 minute ago, Leyther_Matt said: I’m assuming that will still be a red card and this will kind of fill the gap. Although I’ve hated the straight red card situation ever since we had that ridiculous one in the 7-1 at Accrington. Cahill at Spurs comes to mind though for denying a goal scoring opportunity in our own half Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Steejay Posted February 8 Site Supporter Share Posted February 8 Be rainbow cards soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted February 8 Site Supporter Share Posted February 8 4 hours ago, Leyther_Matt said: Great idea as long as it is clear and consistent. Yon mon who threw the spare ball on to the pitch on Saturday being a prime example. I still maintain that it was a yellow x2 offence. Yellow for unsporting behaviour and further yellow for preventing the restart of the game. Should that be a blue instead? Plus, is a player is blue carded with less than 10 mins to go does his team start the next game with 10 on the pitch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underpants Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 Good idea. If it cuts down on the dissent then Shirley it's a good thing. The Luddites moaned about the introduction of the card system in the 70s. Football has moved on since then. Players respect for the officials has nose dived. The possibility of missing 10 mins will make players think twice before the electric blue comes out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freds dad Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 All that will happen is that the team that are a man down will do a little bit of time wasting, and if a player goes down during the 10 minute period does the clock stop for the player in the sin bin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underpants Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 5 minutes ago, freds dad said: All that will happen is that the team that are a man down will do a little bit of time wasting, and if a player goes down during the 10 minute period does the clock stop for the player in the sin bin? That happens now with 11 on the pitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyther_Matt Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 22 minutes ago, freds dad said: All that will happen is that the team that are a man down will do a little bit of time wasting, and if a player goes down during the 10 minute period does the clock stop for the player in the sin bin? You’d think so. Would be easier to police with a ‘live’ clock like in rugby league though (which was what I’ve long since preferred, especially in those long forgotten days of August when games were having 20 minutes added on) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underpants Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 5 minutes ago, Leyther_Matt said: You’d think so. Would be easier to police with a ‘live’ clock like in rugby league though (which was what I’ve long since preferred, especially in those long forgotten days of August when games were having 20 minutes added on) I think they stop the clock in RU when there's an injury. It's hard to tell if they time waste in rugby as it can take ages to to have complete a scrum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyther_Matt Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 5 minutes ago, Underpants said: I think they stop the clock in RU when there's an injury. It's hard to tell if they time waste in rugby as it can take ages to to have complete a scrum. Wasn’t sure about RU as they always seem to still play a little bit at the end rather than finishing dead on 80 like in RL. Guarantees ‘ball in play’ time, at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underpants Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 9 minutes ago, Leyther_Matt said: Wasn’t sure about RU as they always seem to still play a little bit at the end rather than finishing dead on 80 like in RL. Guarantees ‘ball in play’ time, at least. RU don't have injury time. The ball has to be dead for the game to finish. I've seen RU games run over by a few minutes because of penalties. I won't lie it makes for good viewing because the game is close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freds dad Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 (edited) What happens is a blue card is given to a goalie? Rush goalie. Edited February 9 by freds dad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little whitt Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 18 minutes ago, freds dad said: What happens is a blue card is given to a goalie? Rush goalie. Flying Netters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jol_BWFC Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 1 hour ago, freds dad said: What happens is a blue card is given to a goalie? Rush goalie. I imagine there would need to be scope for a temporary substitute. Unless you have a manger who likes to play without keepers on the bench… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underpants Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 9 minutes ago, Jol_BWFC said: I imagine there would need to be scope for a temporary substitute. Unless you have a manger who likes to play without keepers on the bench… Balls to that. If you play with fire expect to get burnt. Keepers getting 10 in the bin will be fucking ace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySanchez Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 45 minutes ago, Jol_BWFC said: I imagine there would need to be scope for a temporary substitute. Unless you have a manger who likes to play without keepers on the bench… I'd imagine you'd have to put an outfield player in for the duration The fact that such questions arise suggest it may not have been well thought out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freds dad Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 And what about the player who is off for 10 minutes. Will they be allowed to keep warm on a bike for example as they may get injured if not fully warmed up when they come back on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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