Posties

[Maggie Tate]

Stuck with my fingers up my arse this weekend instead of at wom for my Mam's birthday as my car tax is in the post, or not, as the case may be.

 

I realise that is pathetically minor compared with not being able to pay your lads but it just goes to illustrate their selfishness in not thinking of the implication of their strike. Own goal if public sympathy is what they want.

Edited October 5, 2007 by Maggie Tate

[Widnes Two Hats]

The Royal Mail is stuck in a time warp

 

If I have a letter or parcel that needs signing for or is too big for the letterbox I have to wait until the weekend before I can collect it as the bone idle mear seeking pissiles only work 9 til 5 monday to friday so they are closed when I leave for work and closed when I get home, and they shut at dinner times on a Saturday

 

It's just too antiquated, sack the f?cking lot of em and get WH Simiths and TNT to run our national services

 

And most of em are queers

[Piemon]

on a serious side to this.

 

im sure lots of us rely on the post day to day in a work capacity and it stinks to high heaven that important

documents or letters etc wont be delivered because them tw@ts at the royal mail.

 

im all for giving the poles and darks the jobs

[frank_spencer]

Say you get paid to build a wall/design a website/ eat your own weight in pies in a day you do that job by dinner time do you

a) say oh Mrs Jones i built that wall/designed that site/ate them pies quicker than i thought so i'll halve my labour costs?

jobs a good un clock off early today?

c) knock about pretending to do work to pad out the day?

 

Posties get paid to deliver their quota of mail, once they've delivered it they've done their days work.

 

Frank Spencer Union man!

Edited October 5, 2007 by frank_spencer

[Guest as]

I remember the firemen getting slagged when they were on strike, they were trying to get a 40% pay-rise in some cases, the government refused...........and then gave themselves & their fellow MP's a 40% pay rise

[Ani]

Say you get paid to build a wall/design a website/ eat your own weight in pies in a day you do that job by dinner time do you

a) say oh Mrs Jones i built that wall/designed that site/ate them pies quicker than i thought so i'll halve my labour costs?

jobs a good un clock off early today?

c) knock about pretending to do work to pad out the day?

 

Posties get paid to deliver their quota of mail, once they've delivered it they've done their days work.

 

Frank Spencer Union man!

 

 

assume your builder is self employed so he has quoted for a one-off and it has be done to a good standard but quickly yes he gets paid.

 

if next week he has no work on he does nt get paid, do posties have this as well ?

 

if the union man in you is using builders as the role model i think you will see the weakness in your arguement.

 

i do not knwo the specifics of why posties are striking, but their actions are only alieniating the general public which in turn puts their bosses in a stronger position as political pressure now comes on the bosses side. Gordon Brown can not be seen to be controlled by the demands of unions with an election round the corner.

[no balls]

I don't understand how this striking lark works, but if a postie actually wants to work this week, is he allowed to? & if not, why not?

Personally, I don't need a mid aged bigoted prick to shout my corner with my employer. Maybe I live in a different world to posties.

Edited October 5, 2007 by no balls

[Crawley White]

Although the CWU do have a point about Brown's penny pinching with their wages increases going up in staggered amounts (he's done this for the last ten years with most public sector jobs - its allows the treasury to post 'better' budgets) This old fashion strike action isn't the way to go about this. Firstly they are asking for a huge pay increase - something that has very little sympathy with the public. Same with the Underground strike and low and behold what do we find? An old unionist at the bottom of it all. In this case step forward Mr. Billy Hayes who would like us to go back to the 70s. It is these sort of people that held labour back for years and fail to realise this is 2007 and that we do live in a free market economy. People like Billy Hayes will be the death of the Royal Mail.

[no balls]

Although the CWU do have a point about Brown's penny pinching with their wages increases going up in staggered amounts (he's done this for the last ten years with most public sector jobs - its allows the treasury to post 'better' budgets) This old fashion strike action isn't the way to go about this. Firstly they are asking for a huge pay increase - something that has very little sympathy with the public. Same with the Underground strike and low and behold what do we find? An old unionist at the bottom of it all. In this case step forward Mr. Billy Hayes who would like us to go back to the 70s. It is these sort of people that held labour back for years and fail to realise this is 2007 and that we do live in a free market economy. People like Billy Hayes will be the death of the Royal Mail.

 

But don't the members vote for these luddites? In this case who's really to blame?

[Crawley White]

But don't the members vote for these luddites? In this case who's really to blame?

 

 

Well for Hayes read 'and his ilk' - the CWU have traditionally always been one of the more leftist Trade Unions.

[Carlos]

if you are talking recorded deliveries, there is no need for a signature.

and he could waste more time with every tosser who asks why do i have to sign ?

what is it ?

if its a bill you can have it back etc

 

If someone has paid for a signature on delivery and isn't getting that service as said lazycuntpostie just shoves it through the letterbox irrespective then fraud has been committed.

[barryk32]

Has to be Cheese & Onion, on a barm with red sauce.... mmmmmm

[Whites man]

Has to be Cheese & Onion, on a barm with red sauce.... mmmmmm

 

Veggie alert

[barryk32]

Veggie alert

 

Aye, love a bit of cheese me, freshly picked from the cheddar tree, or if I'm feeling adventurous I'll pick up a bit of Wenslydale while in the root vegetable section of Aldi.

[Widnes Two Hats]

Aye, love a bit of bell end cheddar me

 

HOMO ALERT

[Horwich]

most of the posties I know are getting paid OVERTIME when they have already finished and are sat at home with their feet up!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Pablo]

Post office WAS full of decent people, doing a good job, its has gone down hill since they tried to EU it, and change the name.

 

My old man work's every hour god sends for Post office, and has done for 40 years, the whole system and the lazy cunts that now do

the job are making honest bloke's life a misery.

[Pablo]

most of the posties I know are getting paid OVERTIME when they have already finished and are sat at home with their feet up!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

If you agree to do a peice of overtime, that has been assigned as a 4 hour dilivery time, and it takes you 2.5 hours, you go home early.

 

So basicly, the better you are at doing your job, the earlier you go home.

 

Its the same for my office job, and many other jobs.

[MickyD]

If a job is rated at 4 hours and a postie does it in 2.5 hours, SACK THE TIME & MOTION CHAP!

[Sweep]

If a job is rated at 4 hours and a postie does it in 2.5 hours, SACK THE TIME & MOTION CHAP!

I agree - Lazy Postmen, give them the sack...........

 

I'll get me coat

[Underpants]

It's because of them workshy tossers I don't get a 2hr kip in the afternoon.

[Smiffs]

maybe not, but if it was that important should it be going through the postal system ?

 

 

the cheques in the post!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

age old excuse of con men.

 

You would be suprised.

 

Two very reputable construction companies we work for still pay by cheque. The cheque forms a tear off part of a remittance certificate which states invoice and valuation number, plus CIS4 (as it was)deductions.

 

We pay by cheque, apart from wages which are by BACS.

 

So this postal system which you support. Are you now telling us that only non essential items are safe within it?

[Smiffs]

Say you get paid to build a wall/design a website/ eat your own weight in pies in a day you do that job by dinner time do you

a) say oh Mrs Jones i built that wall/designed that site/ate them pies quicker than i thought so i'll halve my labour costs?

jobs a good un clock off early today?

c) knock about pretending to do work to pad out the day?

 

Posties get paid to deliver their quota of mail, once they've delivered it they've done their days work.

 

Frank Spencer Union man!

 

Here we go

 

If I priced that wall, i would have expected another couple of builders to have priced the same work. I will price it on how long it could take, the materials, plant, tools etc.

 

If I get the job, then its on a competative basis, how much profit it makes or how quickly it gets done becomes secondary.

 

Then, if the work is substandard, I won't get paid.

 

If I don't win that job, then I have to look for another, or don't earn money that day.

 

Unless I am mistaken, I have not seen any other post boxes in the streets; if I want to post a letter, its RM or nowt. I have to pay for it up front, and then hope it arrives. They have lost the majority of the bulk item mailing market, (thank f?ck becuase Parcel Farce are worse than dogshit), and if they carry on they'll lose the rest too.

[Bea Smith]

You would be suprised.

 

Two very reputable construction companies we work for still pay by cheque. The cheque forms a tear off part of a remittance certificate which states invoice and valuation number, plus CIS4 (as it was)deductions.

 

We pay by cheque, apart from wages which are by BACS.

 

So this postal system which you support. Are you now telling us that only non essential items are safe within it?

 

We are in the same boat Smiffs, had 3 phone calls on wednesday to say cheques had been authorised for us- if we are lucky we will get them next Wednesday. We also recieve most of our job specifications/invitations to tender/electrical drawings/ working manuals etc etc through the post- if we dont recieve them we could be missing out. We also have several jobs that we cannot commence until the risk assesment information we have sent to our clients has been recieved at their end. Potentially we will be paying a few lads a wage with nowhere to send them and no way of recuperating the money we will lose in the process.

 

We also 'job share'- if we recieve information on work that we cannot do as we are 'booked up' or its simply too far away we have a network of other people we swop the info with. Potentially this means we have access to more available work.

 

Faxing such a vast amount of paperwork is good in theory- but in practice its crap- especially with the companies whose fax machines store the info on computor rather than spewing it out of the machine. As for faxing detailed drawings /diagrams/wiring info- they are like rolls of wallpaper sometimes- impossible to fax through.

Utterly naffed off with the strike. 2 x 48 hour strikes in one week is ridiculous.

[Sweep]

Faxing such a vast amount of paperwork is good in theory- but in practice its crap- especially with the companies whose fax machines store the info on computor rather than spewing it out of the machine. As for faxing detailed drawings /diagrams/wiring info- they are like rolls of wallpaper sometimes- impossible to fax through.

Utterly naffed off with the strike. 2 x 48 hour strikes in one week is ridiculous.

Missus C, as a way of easing your reliance on the postal service, for things such as drawings/diagrams/schematics and the such like, can you not invest in a quality scanner in order that they can be emailed in a .pdf format? - I understand it's not ideal, and reliant on somebody actually looking at their emails though.

 

Also, as a result of this postal strike, one of my customers today advised me that he had sent his cheque in the post on Wednesday, we of course have not received it yet, and I have left his account "on stop" - he is going mad, but as the cheque he sent is for ?117,000 there is no way I am releasing goods until I see some sign of payment...........by the way, I do know he is talking crap, as he has always payed by BACS previously, so why he would pay by cheque this time god only knows.