Underpants Posted June 15, 2013 Posted June 15, 2013 (edited) Can we now hate the cunt? Coyle is a decent bloke. He wanted the best for Bolton but his best wasnt good enough. In retrospect it was a bad move installing him as manager, but we the fans, have only got ourselves to blame for that. He will achieve very little at Wigan, and because of that I am happy. A good man but a poor manager. Edited June 15, 2013 by Underpants Quote
Carlos Posted June 15, 2013 Posted June 15, 2013 Summat dodgy happened to Holden Yep, we sent him to a cowboy who did more damage than Johnny Evans. No coincidence we've finally ditched Coyle's medical staff. Quote
Danny G Posted June 15, 2013 Posted June 15, 2013 Yep, we sent him to a cowboy who did more damage than Johnny Evans. No coincidence we've finally ditched Coyle's medical staff. Quote
Casino Posted June 15, 2013 Posted June 15, 2013 Wigan conceded 73 goals in 38 games last season... If coyle's the man to turn that round then I'm the man to sort our economy out I predict a good 1st 5 games then a poor run of form which sees the 20 fans in the stadium turn on him and DW will sack him around Feb/March when they're sitting around 16th. Anyone that thinks Coyle was unlucky, had a bad spell, just a blip or any other of that shit whilst he was at us is deluded. He's a terrible manager and we've found out just to what extent he is since he's left. Good luck to Wigan with him in charge, they'll need it i'm glad he didn't pull the wool over everyones eyes fcuking incompetent fool Quote
Traf Posted June 15, 2013 Posted June 15, 2013 Coyle did have a blip whilst with us. When we performed better than the rest of his reign. Tactically naive doesn't even come close to describing the bible-bashing God-fearing teetotaller. Quote
smeghead83 Posted June 15, 2013 Posted June 15, 2013 I get bored of some fans attitude of 'we dont want him, but nobody else can have him'. If you believe hes that shit of a manager then surely thats pleasing hes at a league rival. How long before some of our mugs start singing Judas at the dw. Quote
Rembrandt Posted June 15, 2013 Posted June 15, 2013 Coyle is a decent bloke. He wanted the best for Bolton but his best wasnt good enough. In retrospect it was a bad move installing him as manager, but we the fans, have only got ourselves to blame for that. He will achieve very little at Wigan, and because of that I am happy. A good man but a poor manager. Not having that. He wasn't my choice as manager, though I was very grateful for the improvement in atmosphere when he was appointed. I wasn't sure at the time whether or not his experience in Scotland and at Burnley was entirely relevant; and Burnley were starting their downward slide. Still, water under the bridge and all that. Quote
Casino Posted June 15, 2013 Posted June 15, 2013 I get bored of some fans attitude of 'we dont want him, but nobody else can have him'. not something i've heard Quote
bgoefc Posted June 15, 2013 Posted June 15, 2013 I must have been down a rabbit hole this last couple of days. Just listened to Talksport whilst preparing me Sirloins and heard yesterdays Whelan interview. Fuck me this news has made me smile! My first glass of red of the evening now tastes even better! Quote
Underpants Posted June 15, 2013 Posted June 15, 2013 (edited) Coyle is a decent bloke. He wanted the best for Bolton but his best wasnt good enough. In retrospect it was a bad move installing him as manager, but we the fans, have only got ourselves to blame for that. He will achieve very little at Wigan, and because of that I am happy. A good man but a poor manager. Not having that. He wasn't my choice as manager, though I was very grateful for the improvement in atmosphere when he was appointed. I wasn't sure at the time whether or not his experience in Scotland and at Burnley was entirely relevant; and Burnley were starting their downward slide. Still, water under the bridge and all that. Really? The constant derision the previous manager got had nothing to do with the change? To appease the masses Gartside went for the best option open to him at the time. Obviously no one knew how it was going to work out, but like you said, the atmosphere improved...... then we got relegated. Edited June 15, 2013 by Underpants Quote
bgoefc Posted June 15, 2013 Posted June 15, 2013 In retrospect we were shit the season we were relegated but only got relegated by the narrowest of margins. in my opinion any other manager and back room staff other than Coyle would have kept us up. QPR were fucking shiite but we managed to fuck up the easiest run in we ever had in the Premier. He was niaive and my wife once met him and questioned him regarding his 4-4-2 obsession and he told her that formations and tactics had very little to do with success and that it was all about the quality of players. Enough said. Quote
land_and_sea Posted June 15, 2013 Posted June 15, 2013 I've said this before, but if he's learned from his mistakes he could still be a cracking manager. Our transition from Premier League to Championship suggests he learns slowly, granted, but that isn't to say the penny will never drop. You sound like an optimist. I don't think he learns quick enough. He'll prove this at Wigan. Quote
Guest Posted June 15, 2013 Posted June 15, 2013 Wigan conceded 73 goals in 38 games last season... If coyle's the man to turn that round then I'm the man to sort our economy out I predict a good 1st 5 games then a poor run of form which sees the 20 fans in the stadium turn on him and DW will sack him around Feb/March when they're sitting around 16th. Anyone that thinks Coyle was unlucky, had a bad spell, just a blip or any other of that shit whilst he was at us is deluded. He's a terrible manager and we've found out just to what extent he is since he's left. Good luck to Wigan with him in charge, they'll need it I think that he was unlucky And shit Quote
bolton va va Posted June 15, 2013 Posted June 15, 2013 Coyle did have a blip whilst with us. When we performed better than the rest of his reign. Tactically naive doesn't even come close to describing the bible-bashing God-fearing teetotaller. Yep...There's a myth that we improved when Coyle first arrived, but it only seemed so because of the improvement in the atmosphere at games thanks to an end to the previous infighting & divisions, & at first his tippy-tappy, tactically gormless football was a (unsuccessful) novelty. The blip came during the period when Muamba & Holden were paired & dominated midfield, sometimes against 3 men, but the idiot Coyle didn't understand this & thought the brief success was down to his inept tactics, as was shown by his later mistreatment of Muamba. Quote
snowball Posted June 15, 2013 Posted June 15, 2013 I really do hope he is as bad for them as he was for us. I don't think he does learn by his mistakes he's either too gormless or too arrogant. What really pissed me off was the adulation in the media he got for 'dealing' with the Muamba incident. I even read in a Burnley forum where they were saying he was unlucky with injuries etc and they mentioned being without Fabrice. We all know that he never used Muamba, didn't know what to do with him and the lad was getting depressed at they way Coyle was treating him prior to White Hart Lane. Our record after Wembley was woeful too, other fans don't seem to realise how few games we won and drew and the sheer frustration of games like Wigan & WBA at home, all down to him and that's without mentioning the start of last season. Looking back there is no way he would have kept Burnley up despite what those deluded hillbillies think. Will Whelan let him bring his mates and relations in? I fuckin hope so. Quote
Mounts Kipper Posted June 15, 2013 Posted June 15, 2013 Spoke to a few Wigan folk today there in uproar he's going to have to hit the floor running. Quote
SatanGreavsie Posted June 15, 2013 Posted June 15, 2013 Just listened to Talksport whilst preparing me Sirloins Is that a euphemism you dirty bastard? How did it pan out? Quote
White Shirt Posted June 15, 2013 Posted June 15, 2013 Spoke to a few Wigan folk today there in uproar he's going to have to hit the floor running. Excellent Quote
DomRepWanderer Posted June 16, 2013 Posted June 16, 2013 In retrospect we were shit the season we were relegated but only got relegated by the narrowest of margins. in my opinion any other manager and back room staff other than Coyle would have kept us up. QPR were fucking shiite but we managed to fuck up the easiest run in we ever had in the Premier. He was niaive and my wife once met him and questioned him regarding his 4-4-2 obsession and he told her that formations and tactics had very little to do with success and that it was all about the quality of players. Enough said. Funnily enough, and I think it was Ricketts who told that gem to the BN, (but I could have just dreamt that) when Dougie was appointed. Quote
smithills_gent Posted June 16, 2013 Posted June 16, 2013 You sound like an optimist. I don't think he learns quick enough. Are you expecting Freedman to learn from his tactical mistakes against Leicester and Blackpool that cost us promotion? Quote
Guest Posted June 16, 2013 Posted June 16, 2013 Are you expecting Freedman to learn from his tactical mistakes against Leicester and Blackpool that cost us promotion? There were many other instances and games tossed away But, I have more hope that he can change than I ever had in Coyle. I don't like this underdo idea of go one upand try to hold onto it for the rest of the match. Leaves too much to chance. Quote
snowball Posted June 16, 2013 Posted June 16, 2013 Are you expecting Freedman to learn from his tactical mistakes against Leicester and Blackpool that cost us promotion? I would have our tactical genius over your tactical genius any day. Quote
Carlos Posted June 16, 2013 Posted June 16, 2013 Are we claiming that finishing 6th equates to promotion? Do, please, fuck off. Quote
Ani Posted June 16, 2013 Posted June 16, 2013 Coyle took an under performing team and lifted them for a while, he is now taking over a team that has probably over performed. I would have very little faith that he can lift them. Quote
land_and_sea Posted June 16, 2013 Posted June 16, 2013 Are you expecting Freedman to learn from his tactical mistakes against Leicester and Blackpool that cost us promotion? Yes. Dougie moved us up the table something Coyle couldn't do. Quote
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