mickbrown Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 Burnham is a scouser, Anyway, balls to Clegg, Alexander and Cable. That's what happens when you shaft your support boys. Quote
Guest Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 Serious question; Assuming the SNP bloc remains intact; can Labour win in the rump of the UK? Quote
L/H White Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 Serious question, what's the likelyhood of the election being every 4 years again? Quote
bgoefc Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 Serious question; Assuming the SNP bloc remains intact; can Labour win in the rump of the UK? Perhaps in 2030 after 15 years of Tory rule. Quote
Guest Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 Serious question, what's the likelyhood of the election being every 4 years again? Depends if the law is changed again, I suppose Quote
Guest Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 Perhaps in 2030 after 15 years of Tory rule. Then, expect a comeback by The Messiah Quote
Guest Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 Serious question; Assuming the SNP bloc remains intact; can Labour win in the rump of the UK? Possibly not outright but could of course form some sort of government with the SNP. Think their first problem is to decide how to create a coherent and opposing message to the Conservative government. The path they choose will determine a lot. Quote
Smiffs Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 Andy Burnham is a political dinosaur, they may as well resurrect Derek Hatton. He's a top man and genuine. Down to earth bloke who cares. He's also centre right and is big on business doing well so it can grow and employ people rather than be there to be raped by the left to pay for the even lefter. He would get me back on the red side again that's for sure. Quote
Smiffs Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 (edited) Burnham is a scouser, Might have been born one but lives a few mins from Leigh and was brought up in Culcheth. Doesn't have carrots in his lobby either. Regularly comes watching leyth with his lad. Edited May 8, 2015 by Smiffs Quote
Guest Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 He's a top man and genuine. Down to earth bloke who cares. He's also centre right and is big on business doing well so it can grow and employ people rather than be there to be raped by the left to pay for the even lefter. He would get me back on the red side again that's for sure. Not likely to be electable for large parts of the UK though. Just doesn't feel like PM material. Though I agree with what you say about him. Quote
Smiffs Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 Probably right in that he could be seen as a dumb northern monkey with militant scouse roots...which is far from the truth. But if there's one man who cares passionately about the ordinary working man and the nhs then it's him. I'd even put ed balls alongside him as a pretty good pairing....There I said it. Quote
Spider Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 How would you know? You have me on inignore don't you? Weirdo I've taken you off now Couldn't miss this, luv. Quote
Guest Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 I dont mind Burnham. Seems a genuine bloke. whereas Ed Balls is........... Quote
Oval White Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 I dont mind Burnham. Seems a genuine bloke. He went to St Aelreds school in Newton Le Willows which has since become Hope Academy. If he could get the school out of special measures then that would be great as it would help both of my sons education and add a few thousand onto the value of my house. Quote
bgoefc Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 (edited) He's a top man and genuine. Down to earth bloke who cares. He's also centre right and is big on business doing well so it can grow and employ people rather than be there to be raped by the left to pay for the even lefter. He would get me back on the red side again that's for sure. They could (and probably will) do a lot worse. Poisoned chalice though for the next 5-10 years methinks. Edited May 8, 2015 by bgoefc Quote
Carlos Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 There are more pandas than Labour MPs in Scotland. Quote
Smiffs Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 He went to St Aelreds school in Newton Le Willows which has since become Hope Academy. If he could get the school out of special measures then that would be great as it would help both of my sons education and add a few thousand onto the value of my house. Capitalist pig Quote
Guest Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 Probably right in that he could be seen as a dumb northern monkey with militant scouse roots...which is far from the truth. But if there's one man who cares passionately about the ordinary working man and the nhs then it's him. I'd even put ed balls alongside him as a pretty good pairing....There I said it. Feel sorry for Ed B. He is genuine and actually cared. Did not deserve to lose his seat in my view. Quote
exiledwhite2 Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 (edited) Serious question; Assuming the SNP bloc remains intact; can Labour win in the rump of the UK? I'd say a fairly strong no. There's 108 seats gap, and they've traded about 20 between them. Don't think there are that many marginals to play for. The Lib Dems may well fade into obscurity now. That will leave the South West to the Tories. And the South West will remain Tory as long as the SNP have so many seats - this result is surely an anti-SNP (and possibly Labour) vote? Protesting against the Lib Dems by voting for their coalition partners makes no sense. I knew the Tories were banging that drum but I had no idea it would be so effective. Perhaps the only chance of beating the Tories would be for Labour and the SNP to seek office on a coalition platform. But again, that's a huge turnoff for most. Ironic and stunning outcome of the rise of the SNP is that the Tories are at their strongest in a generation. As you said earlier, this is a preamble to an England/Scotland face off. All that said I think the Tories may well tear themselves apart over Europe in this term. They didn't expect to have to deliver the referendum. Their leadership don't want out but Cameron has said they will give us the vote. Edited May 8, 2015 by exiledwhite2 Quote
Whites man Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 Assuming SNP's dominance of Scotland continuing is a mistake. Next time out the Scots will realise the only way to get the Tories out is to vote Labour. That message didn't get across this time in the aftermath of the independence referendum. Add 30 Jock seats on to Labour total with the Lib Dems taking back some Tory gains then it's all up for grabs. As it stands now the Tories have a wager thin majority, it wasn't a New Labour style landslide! Quote
birch-chorley Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 Once the jocks have their beer money cut off they will come back to labour I think time will heal the libral wounds, they've taken a battering but everyone seems to agree that they did the right thing at the right time I think relative normality will resume after 5 years of a Tory government and tge SNP / UKIP will fall away - Tories have nowhere to hide now Quote
BOWTUN BAKED Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 Under proportional representation. Tories 240 Labour 198 Ukip. 83 Lib Dems 51 SNP. 31 Green 25 Others 6 DUP. 4 Sinn Fein. 4 Plaid Cymru 4 UUP. 3 SDLP. 2 Alliance. 1 Read into it what you will, but it you associated Ukip with racism, the nation's got a big problem, or time to rethink the association. By that thinking I'm going to call the SNP racists then. Quote
Casino Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 some snp bod accused the tories of being divisive and running a negative campaign by highlighting the potential power of the snp if labour and them joined together the fcuking irony Quote
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