madthatter Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 Yes there is a vestigial part of my brain that the concept makes intuitive sense to. Thankfully - science can step in and stop me from thinking like a caveman :-) ha ha! I've said my peace which is, as usual for me, sitting somewhat on the fence. I honestly believe a true scientist wouldn't accept hypothesis or conclusions/theories as absolute truths. Doesn't old Iron side say something like that in one of his books - as in science is just theories. They don't fundamentally explain the nature of the world around us but allow us to make sense out of something that is ultimately unknowable. Whilst not thinking the moon beams down telepathic signals when full I'm open to the idea that it may have effects that we aren't fully aware of. I think that is a fair assumption, not really cave man logic No ones addressed this yet but what would happen to life if we took away the moon? An aside, granted, but if it would affect us by not being there then . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted April 24, 2016 Moderators Share Posted April 24, 2016 Come on, is there not a tiny bit of you that thinks maybe? Just maybe? Scientifically/physically absolutely not, not in the same way you can prove the moons effect on tides etc But I am sure that because we've had 000s of years of pre science thinking that there might be more to it, there will be some psychological effect on some people I'm sure someone walking to the pub on a clear full moon night may admire the beauty of it and it then puts them in a good mood for the evening Equally it may be the catalyst for someone to decide to bludgeon their family to death Shit happens, full moon or not, it doesn't correlate, even though some think it does Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youri McAnespie Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 That's fascinating Youri (not being sarcastic). Consciousness is a strange concept in that it's completely subjective. There's a bloke called Dr Eben Alexander who wrote a book called 'Proof of Heaven'. In it he describes his own near death experience in which he 'saw God'. He's a Neurosurgeon so you'd expect him to be able to put his experience into the context of what happens to the brain when it's 'near death' - but he can't. He's convinced that his experience proves that there is life after death and so on and so forth. Well it certainly put paid to my previous practices of stealing lead off church roofs, shagging prostitutes, setting fire to sleeping tramps and embezzling charities to buy and consume cocaine and heroin...Just on the off chance of an after death existance in the Abrahamic tradition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted April 24, 2016 Moderators Share Posted April 24, 2016 That's fascinating Youri (not being sarcastic). Consciousness is a strange concept in that it's completely subjective. There's a bloke called Dr Eben Alexander who wrote a book called 'Proof of Heaven'. In it he describes his own near death experience in which he 'saw God'. He's a Neurosurgeon so you'd expect him to be able to put his experience into the context of what happens to the brain when it's 'near death' - but he can't. He's convinced that his experience proves that there is life after death and so on and so forth. It would be interesting to take a person, in a truman show type way, and have them develop in life with absolutely no mention or notion of God, heaven, etc, and then give them a few near death experiences to see what they see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted April 24, 2016 Site Supporter Share Posted April 24, 2016 (edited) I've only scanned the last couple of pages. From what I can gather, we have established that Jesus lives on the moon, Youri nearly drowned in a pair of massive tits full of LSD, and cheese is now Brian Cox. Love this site, me, I do. Edited April 24, 2016 by Spider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madthatter Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 (edited) I've only scanned the last couple of pages. From what I can gather, we have established that Jesus lives on the moon, Youri nearly drowned in a pair of massive tits full of LSD, and cheese is now Brian Cox. Love this site, me, I do. Beats talking about the football . . . Edited April 24, 2016 by madthatter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e2e4 Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 It would be interesting to take a person, in a truman show type way, and have them develop in life with absolutely no mention or notion of God, heaven, etc, and then give them a few near death experiences to see what they see Not sure it'd be any different than white lights and jesus and the rest. God's either real or He's not, if He's not , at least more than one ancient civilization independently invented the concept. who's to say Truman Burbank wouldnt be the first pope or whatever ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 Just so it's a WW first of Russell and Voltaire in the same post..... 'If God did not exist, it would be necessary to invent him' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted April 24, 2016 Moderators Share Posted April 24, 2016 God's either real or He's not, if He's not , at least more than one ancient civilization independently invented the concept. Yeah but they did that when they thought the world was flat For me you move with science What we belived 200 and 2000 years ago seems ridiculous, to some, now And no doubt as we discover more, certain things we beleive now will seem daft in another few hundred or thousands years, maybe even 20 Don't get me wrong, we know nowt in the grand scheme of things, but we know enough by now to know that a bright light in the sky isnt the real reason why people go mental from time to time, though it might not help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e2e4 Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 (edited) I were just refering to the Truman Show thing. Different people with no contact of one another might do the same thing. A lot of it's circular reasoning, Godel and Boltzman and them liked pissing about with folk. And that were years after The Enlightenment. last time this happened i couldn't believe it. Never noticed it before. Edited April 25, 2016 by e2e4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalcolmW Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 I think you're misunderstanding what a "full moon" is. It isn't "closer than normal" or anything like that. A full moon doesn't affect the tides differently to a half moon, or a new moon. A full moon is simply the stage of alignment when the Earth casts no shadow on it. Oh yes it does. At least full moon AND new moon have one effect and quarter moons have another. Spring tides occur at full OR new moons, neap tides at quarter moons. Try "Tidal Dynamics" by Fergal Wood for fuller information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted April 25, 2016 Site Supporter Share Posted April 25, 2016 Oh yes it does. At least full moon AND new moon have one effect and quarter moons have another. Spring tides occur at full OR new moons, neap tides at quarter moons. Try "Tidal Dynamics" by Fergal Wood for fuller information. That difference is caused by the gravitational pull of the sun becoming aligned with that of the moon. The pull of the moon itself doesn't magically change because it's lit up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big City Girl Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Oh yes it does. At least full moon AND new moon have one effect and quarter moons have another. Spring tides occur at full OR new moons, neap tides at quarter moons. Try "Tidal Dynamics" by Fergal Wood for fuller information. I'm suddenly craving Jaffa Cakes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 I'm suddenly craving Jaffa Cakes It's a scientific fact that you cannot just eat one and leave the rest of the pack for later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big City Girl Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Now that is a moon fact Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter superjohnmcginlay Posted April 25, 2016 Site Supporter Share Posted April 25, 2016 Which leads to question is a Jaffa Cake a cake or biscuit Cake by name biscuit by nature Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevieb Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 When left out biscuits go soft and cakes go hard. Therefore jaffas are cakes. However, they are sized like a biscuit but it's impossible to eat anything other than 12 at a time. In summary... They're ace, I don't give a fucking what they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whites man Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Which leads to question is a Jaffa Cake a cake or biscuit Cake by name biscuit by nature So we know they are classed as a cake so are VAT exempt. I bet the person at HRMC who decided that is a fatty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juan.Kerr Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 There's load of stuff that can't be proven scientifically but still happens. There's nothing in science to explain why blokes like tits. They are just big forms of blubber attached to a females body yet heterosexual men feel the need spaff on them. Even more so during a full SAC I hasten to add. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Is there not some kind of tax reasoning for calling them cakes and not biscuits? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter superjohnmcginlay Posted April 25, 2016 Site Supporter Share Posted April 25, 2016 When left out biscuits go soft and cakes go hard. Therefore jaffas are cakes. However, they are sized like a biscuit but it's impossible to eat anything other than 12 at a time. In summary... They're ace, I don't give a fucking what they are. Here, Make a big one http://www.pimpthatsnack.com/project/332/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevieb Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Oh my fucking days! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 I prefer Jaffa Cakes when they've gone a bit hard and stale. I also prefer Brandy Snaps when they've gone a bit soggy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youri McAnespie Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 Sommat about the Moon on BBC Four right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Sommat about the Moon on BBC Four right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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