Escobarp Posted July 15, 2020 Posted July 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, Farrelli said: Fair play for acknowledging this but I said that to you a month or so back and you said it was a negotiating tactic. See my recent post. I think it is. But that doesn’t mean I don’t think we shouldn’t now be delaying which is my point Quote
ZiggyStardust Posted July 15, 2020 Posted July 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, Farrelli said: The deadline for extending was end of June. Deadlines can be moved, with the agreement of both sides. Quote
Sweep Posted July 15, 2020 Posted July 15, 2020 4 minutes ago, Farrelli said: The deadline for extending was end of June. we all know that, if we requested it now, that we'd get an extension - the EU will be more than happy for us to keep paying in for as long as possible, so they'd give us an extension if we wanted one I reckon Quote
Cheese Posted July 15, 2020 Posted July 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, Escobarp said: I can’t see why anyone thinks he wants to go WTO. Who benefits from this in reality? Won’t be us and won’t be the EU so it’s in neither sides interest. I see it as a negotiation tactic and hope I’m right Brexit was never meant to 'benefit' anyone. Most prominent Brexiters said they were willing to let the country take a hit as long as we got out as soon as possible, and large swathes of the public lapped that up and started screaming "Let's go WTO!!" without understanding what it meant. Quote
tomski Posted July 15, 2020 Posted July 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, Cheese said: Brexit was never meant to 'benefit' anyone. Most prominent Brexiters said they were willing to let the country take a hit as long as we got out as soon as possible, and large swathes of the public lapped that up and started screaming "Let's go WTO!!" without understanding what it meant. Surely it will benefit some. Even if it’s just the people who bet heavily on it. In anything there are winners and losers? Covid has been a good example of this. Quote
Farrelli Posted July 15, 2020 Posted July 15, 2020 8 minutes ago, ZiggyStardust said: Deadlines can be moved, with the agreement of both sides. They can but goodwill is severely lacking for Boris and co. Quote
Jol_BWFC Posted July 15, 2020 Posted July 15, 2020 Perhaps Boris (Dom) thinks that any immediate economic hit that happens as a result of leaving at the end of the year can be hidden within (or attributed to) the existing recession / depression that we’ll be facing over the next few years as a result of COVID-19. Quote
Farrelli Posted July 15, 2020 Posted July 15, 2020 7 minutes ago, Sweep said: we all know that, if we requested it now, that we'd get an extension - the EU will be more than happy for us to keep paying in for as long as possible, so they'd give us an extension if we wanted one I reckon Yes they can but it was extremely pigheaded of our government to flatly refuse this option in June. It was fairly clear that Covid has impeded negotiations and I'm left with the opinion that Boris/Cummings/Gove all want WTO. Quote
Sweep Posted July 15, 2020 Posted July 15, 2020 1 minute ago, Farrelli said: Yes they can but it was extremely pigheaded of our government to flatly refuse this option in June. It was fairly clear that Covid has impeded negotiations and I'm left with the opinion that Boris/Cummings/Gove all want WTO. I've felt for a while that Boris & Rees-Mogg want WTO for whatever reason. Of those that post on here, I think there is only Bolty (I think) that has said he'd like to go WTO. No matter what side you sit on, I think most agree that going WTO wouldn't be a good thing at all, neither for us or the EU, as it would cause a huge short term impact, that nobody wants at present, especially as everything is about to, economically, drop off a cliff Quote
Farrelli Posted July 15, 2020 Posted July 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, Jol_BWFC said: Perhaps Boris (Dom) thinks that any immediate economic hit that happens as a result of leaving at the end of the year can be hidden within (or attributed to) the existing recession / depression that we’ll be facing over the next few years as a result of COVID-19. That is a salient point. I can imagine the waffle spewing out of his mouth. If they can try and pin the care home mis-management on care home owners not following procedures they are well capable of blaming brexit disaster to our economy on covid. Quote
Farrelli Posted July 15, 2020 Posted July 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, Sweep said: I've felt for a while that Boris & Rees-Mogg want WTO for whatever reason. Of those that post on here, I think there is only Bolty (I think) that has said he'd like to go WTO. No matter what side you sit on, I think most agree that going WTO wouldn't be a good thing at all, neither for us or the EU, as it would cause a huge short term impact, that nobody wants at present, especially as everything is about to, economically, drop off a cliff Yep. The fact that they are trying to promote Liam Fox as WTO Leader is an indication of where we are heading. Quote
Casino Posted July 15, 2020 Posted July 15, 2020 4 minutes ago, boltondiver said: Like a Twitter thread From conservativewoman himself, thats harsh Though to be expected as even you can see theres nowt left to defend Quote
bolty58 Posted July 16, 2020 Posted July 16, 2020 22 hours ago, tomski said: They’ve lied to everyone non dependent on what side you sit. Id call this project fuck all has happened with little time left. As stated before nothing would give me greater pleasure to come on in years to come and say I was wrong and you chaps were right. Them Lovehoney rabbit vibrators might? Quote
bolty58 Posted July 16, 2020 Posted July 16, 2020 21 hours ago, Sweep said: I've felt for a while that Boris & Rees-Mogg want WTO for whatever reason. Of those that post on here, I think there is only Bolty (I think) that has said he'd like to go WTO. No matter what side you sit on, I think most agree that going WTO wouldn't be a good thing at all, neither for us or the EU, as it would cause a huge short term impact, that nobody wants at present, especially as everything is about to, economically, drop off a cliff You need to re-check my friend. I have consistently said, as per my good friend MK, that a deal would be struck as it's in both sides best interests. I may have said at some stage 'fuck them then. Go WTO' in the face of EU intransigence but 'would like' is entirely different. Quote
tomski Posted July 16, 2020 Posted July 16, 2020 42 minutes ago, bolty58 said: Them Lovehoney rabbit vibrators might? Did nowt for me. Strictly fistmister on that front. Quote
Mounts Kipper Posted July 16, 2020 Posted July 16, 2020 (edited) On 15/07/2020 at 11:34, Sweep said: I've felt for a while that Boris & Rees-Mogg want WTO for whatever reason. Of those that post on here, I think there is only Bolty (I think) that has said he'd like to go WTO. No matter what side you sit on, I think most agree that going WTO wouldn't be a good thing at all, neither for us or the EU, as it would cause a huge short term impact, that nobody wants at present, especially as everything is about to, economically, drop off a cliff I don’t think Boris wants WTO but Rees Mogg most likely does. Anyhow didnt I say there would be a deal. 😂 Edited July 16, 2020 by Mounts Kipper Quote
Mounts Kipper Posted July 16, 2020 Posted July 16, 2020 12 minutes ago, boltondiver said: Just received my renewed passport Was it blue? Quote
Guest Posted July 16, 2020 Posted July 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: Was it blue? 😁 Quote
Sweep Posted July 16, 2020 Posted July 16, 2020 (edited) 37 minutes ago, boltondiver said: Just received my renewed passport 24 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: Was it blue? I'm not sure if I've posted this before, but a plasterer I know (not that his profession is relevant) was all excited about his new passport coming a few months ago, probably around February/March I think, dead chuffed because he'd have a blue passport......he was proper miffed when it turned up, and it was still burgundy, and he's lumbered with it for the next ten years. He reckons, but of course, hes talking shit, that he'll "accidentally" destroy/lose it within a few months and then apply for a new one - says he's not arsed about the cost, it's the principle of it. I do though suspect that he's probably more miffed at not going to Florida last month with his kids, due to COVID, that and apparently not being able to get hold of decent volumes of the plaster dust stuff that he needs to do his work Edited July 16, 2020 by Sweep Quote
Farrelli Posted July 16, 2020 Posted July 16, 2020 5 minutes ago, Sweep said: I'm not sure if I've posted this before, but a plasterer I know (not that his profession is relevant) was all excited about his new passport coming a few months ago, probably around February/March I think, dead chuffed because he'd have a blue passport......he was proper miffed when it turned up, and it was still burgundy, and he's lumbered with it for the next ten years. He reckons, but of course, hes talking shit, that he'll "accidentally" destroy/lose it within a few months and then apply for a new one - says he's not arsed about the cost, it's the principle of it. I do though suspect that he's probably more miffed at not going to Florida last month with his kids, due to COVID, that and apparently not being able to get hold of decent volumes of the plaster dust stuff that he needs to do his work Bright fella😀 Quote
Sweep Posted July 16, 2020 Posted July 16, 2020 Just now, Farrelli said: Bright fella😀 he actually is, in his own way, but he does have a massive hatred towards the EU, mainly based on his previous business going bust many years ago, due to "Polish Plasterers" under cutting him Quote
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