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[gonzo]

Great news

[Casino]

It may well be great news

But, i think its also old news

Not sure id be looking to a car mag for my economics but im pretty sure whatcar reported that in march

Edited August 18, 2020 by Casino

[Tonge moor green jacket]

Aye. Shame they don't seem to looking at all electric ones yet, but good news on the commitment to Sunderland. 

[Spider]

Great news

We haven’t lost a project that was always planned for Sun’lan

Is that where we are now?

[Tonge moor green jacket]

3 minutes ago, Spider said:

Great news

We haven’t lost a project that was always planned for Sun’lan

Is that where we are now?

Jesus, I've just put my ear defenders back on.

[Sweep]

5 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Jesus, I've just put my ear defenders back on.

It is a reasonably valid point though

[Tonge moor green jacket]

2 minutes ago, Sweep said:

It is a reasonably valid point though

Nah, not for me. We were told it would be a disaster this leaving lark. There were supposed warnings from Japanese car manufacturers but they've stuck with it. Even more so considering the deal the eu did with Japan, and them not needing eu based plant. No doubt if they'd decided to take it back to Japan folk would have been all over it.

OK, might not be new, but its a vote of confidence and a positive. 

[Spider]

1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Nah, not for me. We were told it would be a disaster this leaving lark. There were supposed warnings from Japanese car manufacturers but they've stuck with it. Even more so considering the deal the eu did with Japan, and them not needing eu based plant. No doubt if they'd decided to take it back to Japan folk would have been all over it.

OK, might not be new, but its a vote of confidence and a positive. 

Or

we were told the world and his wife would treat us like the next Cayman Islands.

Every business would be swimming across the channel to set up shop.

My business doesn’t survive by relying solely on the customers we have, it’s essential to add and increase revenue from new sources.

You see where I’m going...

[Escobarp]

I’ve had the busiest month revenue wise that I’ve had in last 15 months. Pipeline is bigger than it’s been yet and I’ve had 3 large tenders drop into my inbox today one of which would be the biggest single transaction seen In our business for 5 years if we are successful. All this against the back drop of us applying 10% tariffs on all product from Jan 1st as we don’t know what the tariffs will be upon leaving the EU transition agreement for bringing our goods in. 

not a bad indicator I wouldn’t say. 

[Sweep]

12 hours ago, Escobarp said:

I’ve had the busiest month revenue wise that I’ve had in last 15 months. Pipeline is bigger than it’s been yet and I’ve had 3 large tenders drop into my inbox today one of which would be the biggest single transaction seen In our business for 5 years if we are successful. All this against the back drop of us applying 10% tariffs on all product from Jan 1st as we don’t know what the tariffs will be upon leaving the EU transition agreement for bringing our goods in. 

not a bad indicator I wouldn’t say. 

Swings and Roundabouts.....

We've just had a company wide TEAMS meeting to tell us that two of our business units are to merge, with the majority of jobs being relocated into Central Europe (perhaps 75~100) the reason being that we as a global organisation (albeit only a small one with a turnover of around $240KK) can't afford to be headquartered in the UK and have the largest chunks of our business transacted through the UK, as it has done for the last few years.

I'll be OK, and if anything, I'm going to be the one that does a little bit better, and I'll get a further and wider reach of my responsibility, but some of my colleagues are going to be losing their jobs unfortunately.

The interesting thing is that as a company, whilst not ripping up any trees this year, we're holding our own, we're still making a profit and we didn't furlough a single person, unlike most of our competitors. The sole reason for the move of our "central operating hub" is that it'll mean we can plan properly for the years ahead........I'm sure if we strike some excellent deal with the EU, then it might all move back to the UK, but the lack of clarity with only 4 months to go has forced our hand

With regards to actually bringing goods in, a new warehouse has been built in Poland as we'd already decided to keep minimal stocks here in the UK, just in case we find ourselves behind a tariff wall in 4 months time, as the bulk of our sales go back into mainland Europe. The concern isn't actually about the tariffs between the UK and the EU, it's the tariffs from the Far East that is the main concern as there is no agreement even remotely in place to cover that as things stand, so we're potentially looking in some cases at an increase of up to 35% on some incoming electronics

Ultimately for the company I work for, I suspect Brexit will work out quite well.....especially as the EU/Poland chucked a shit load of money at us to build the facility in central Europe. For the UK staff, in any type of operations roll it'll be a bit shit though and they'll have to find work elsewhere. The guy who owns 100% of our company is pretty much a permanent resident in Monaco these days anyway, so I'm sure he's not that arsed either way

[Escobarp]

I agree mate that it is very much swings and roundabouts and I was merely pointing that out in my post. For every positive story there is a negative story and vice versa. 
 

it is a shit show though and we leave in what about 20 weeks? with no deal as it stands and no noise of any positive Happening whatsoever. It really isn’t good 

[Ani]

I would like to ask any Brexiteers would they agree given the shitstorm from the virus and the focus that has needed should we delay leaving if possible ? 
 

Secondly given one of the reasons I voted Remain was a simple believe that we would fuck it up due to incompetence how do you feel that we have this being controlled by a bunch of pricks who can not mark exam papers properly ? 
 

If you think leaving is our best option do you think the circumstances across the world, our own lack of focus and the continuing fuck ups from Boris and the boys on every other topic means we run the risk of losing some of the benefits we could get from leaving. 
 

I am not arguing we reverse the vote or anything but do not think we are positioned to maximise the benefits of leaving. 

[Escobarp]

16 minutes ago, Ani said:

I would like to ask any Brexiteers would they agree given the shitstorm from the virus and the focus that has needed should we delay leaving if possible ? 
 

Secondly given one of the reasons I voted Remain was a simple believe that we would fuck it up due to incompetence how do you feel that we have this being controlled by a bunch of pricks who can not mark exam papers properly ? 
 

If you think leaving is our best option do you think the circumstances across the world, our own lack of focus and the continuing fuck ups from Boris and the boys on every other topic means we run the risk of losing some of the benefits we could get from leaving. 
 

I am not arguing we reverse the vote or anything but do not think we are positioned to maximise the benefits of leaving. 

I have said before we should delay given the current pandemic. 
 

secondly I wasn’t aware our government were marking exam papers. That’s news to me 

[Sweep]

7 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

I have said before we should delay given the current pandemic. 
 

 

I think pretty much anybody who understands how business works would agree with that. As you say further up, only 20 weeks to go, and no sign of an agreement in place. People who bring stuff in by sea, will need to know within the next 10 weeks what's going on, or they could have product leaving the Far East that has zero tariff, finding that by the time their goods arrive at a UK port, they're stung with a massive price increase. It's a bit of a farce. Even without COVID-19, it was a tall order to get agreements in place by the end of this year, now it's surely pretty much impossible.

[Guest]

19 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

I have said before we should delay given the current pandemic. 
 

secondly I wasn’t aware our government were marking exam papers. That’s news to me 

Dom Cummings has been checking them personally

[Ani]

21 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

I have said before we should delay given the current pandemic. 
 

secondly I wasn’t aware our government were marking exam papers. That’s news to me 

I know you have said that on the first point just wondering what others think. 
secondly you little scamp you know what I mean the Govt have a responsibility for the mess around A levels and GCSE results. There actually no papers to mark which you would think would make the job easier but not for this lot. 

[Ani]

5 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

Dom Cummings has been checking them personally

With his eyesight ? 

[Escobarp]

Just now, Ani said:

I know you have said that on the first point just wondering what others think. 
secondly you little scamp you know what I mean the Govt have a responsibility for the mess around A levels and GCSE results. There actually no papers to mark which you would think would make the job easier but not for this lot. 

😁

[Spider]

Four months left and we know fuck all about this oven ready bowl of Pedigree Chum.

Four months.

Or, in business terms, less than 75 working days.

And we know fucking nothing.

Any business worth its salt plans months and years ahead.

And Boris is still awol 

[Sweep]

10 minutes ago, Spider said:

Four months left and we know fuck all about this oven ready bowl of Pedigree Chum.

Four months.

Or, in business terms, less than 75 working days.

And we know fucking nothing.

Any business worth its salt plans months and years ahead.

And Boris is still awol 

Wiff-waff, Spitfires & Churchillian Spirit you traitor

[Casino]

10 minutes ago, Mr Grey said:

Unfortunately that is the problem, no written exams, no perfect solution.

But we have known there wont be exams for months

We had a robust, oven ready solution

Scrapped it before it was cooked

Theyre shit

 

[Sweep]

Can they not just make everybody repeat the year again. Toddlers get an extra year off school, everybody else just repeats

[Farrelli]

5 minutes ago, Mr Grey said:

Nobody is disputing the fact it's been a mess. I was merely pointing out that there was NO perfect solution without the process of 'Written Exams', grades are inflated by 40% and some Students and their parents are still not happy, the majority are deluded, and none will do better in the Autumn exams than what (CAG) they were given by their teachers.

The appeals they have put in over the last week are laughable, and this lot are going on to study at top University's, they are the so-called future of our great country.

GOD FUCKING HELP US! 

No perfect solution but the Govt and Ofqual managed to make a complete botch of it!  Anyway let's blame the Parents and Students.

[Farrelli]

26 minutes ago, Casino said:

But we have known there wont be exams for months

We had a robust, oven ready solution

Scrapped it before it was cooked

Theyre shit

 

That is being kind.  They don't resign either.

There must be a game of 'who can be the most shittest and still keep their job' going on in the cabinet.  Priti Patel set the ball rolling but Cummings thought he had won the pot with his lockdown drive around the country.  Hancock has been chipping away going for the long game and playing his PPE ineptitude card very well.  Boris had his own go at winning by having a blatant go at passing the buck to care home owners but bottled out when they sussed him.  However they have all been trumped by Gavin 'the gormless' Williamson and his exam fuckup.  

[Escobarp]

1 minute ago, Mr Grey said:

Read what I posted. It's a mess and collectively it's been shambolic, but some students and their parents are not helping. If you want a proper debate about this, the processes, procedures and fairness, I could go all day, as it's my job.

The desire on some peoples parts to absolve anybody but the government ministers of any blame is actually quite scary. Nobody else is to blame for anything or in anyway complicit. If it’s gone wrong it’s a tories fault. If it wasn’t so utterly sad it would be quite amusing.