Traf Posted July 15, 2023 Posted July 15, 2023 There's a rule about not being able to take a private job somewhere within a certain time frame of being a minister etc So with imminent defeat approaching in an election, expect more Tories to step down. Sorry if this sounds vague, I only caught half the conversation on the radio. Quote
Nowack Posted July 15, 2023 Posted July 15, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Traf said: There's a rule about not being able to take a private job somewhere within a certain time frame of being a minister etc So with imminent defeat approaching in an election, expect more Tories to step down. Sorry if this sounds vague, I only caught half the conversation on the radio. Looks like Ben Wallace was listening. Edit - Which is what you were responding to. Edited July 15, 2023 by Nowack Must read whole thread Quote
bolty58 Posted July 16, 2023 Posted July 16, 2023 7 hours ago, Mounts Kipper said: USA want female for the job Wallace wanted. Biden's pushing for the EU's Ursula - rated the worst defence minister Germany has ever had! Instead of a man with the military coursing through his veins. Fucking stupid but 'positive discrimination' means it's a 'job for the girls' situation rather than the best person for the job. Farce. https://www.politico.eu/article/ursula-von-der-leyen-biography-career-inconvenient-truth/ Quote
Spider Posted July 16, 2023 Posted July 16, 2023 5 hours ago, bolty58 said: Biden's pushing for the EU's Ursula - rated the worst defence minister Germany has ever had! Instead of a man with the military coursing through his veins. Fucking stupid but 'positive discrimination' means it's a 'job for the girls' situation rather than the best person for the job. Farce. https://www.politico.eu/article/ursula-von-der-leyen-biography-career-inconvenient-truth/ Secretary General of NATO is a diplomatic role and of the last 8 only 1 has had any military experience. What the secretary general does have is a team of senior military advisors who are all vastly experience generals and leaders. the primary role of nato is deterrence and diplomacy, seeking to avoid conflict wherever possible which is usually best left to diplomats rather than fighters. But don’t let any of this get in the way of your well established misogyny 🥰 Quote
little whitt Posted July 16, 2023 Posted July 16, 2023 13 hours ago, gonzo said: Ben Wallace stepping down. Wonder whats brought that on? My MP him, always thought he was pretty safe. can see the Wrighting on the wall Quote
Mounts Kipper Posted July 16, 2023 Posted July 16, 2023 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/explainers-55858490 Quote
Spider Posted July 16, 2023 Posted July 16, 2023 12 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/explainers-55858490 Ouch Quote
gonzo Posted July 16, 2023 Posted July 16, 2023 13 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/explainers-55858490 Get the Chinks and Yanks to sign up and its winner. Quote
Mounts Kipper Posted July 16, 2023 Posted July 16, 2023 1 minute ago, gonzo said: Get the Chinks and Yanks to sign up and its winner. Also this could lead to bigger benefits, and thankfully it’s not a political union. The agreement will loosen restrictions on services and digital trade, which matches the UK's ambitions, and ties it in with some of the faster-growing nations. Quote
Spider Posted July 16, 2023 Posted July 16, 2023 Even with some changes to the trading arrangements with other countries, the gains from the expanded accord is expected to be fairly small - around 0.08% of GDP over 10 years, according to the government's best stab at an estimate. Even so, by contrast, leaving the EU, the government's independent forecasters reckon, will have reduced the UK's growth by far more - perhaps 4% of our income. In total, the CPTPP accounted for 8% of UK exports in 2019 - less than we sold to Germany. Quote
Nowack Posted July 16, 2023 Posted July 16, 2023 Does this mean we can finally get some of that chlorinated chicken we were promised. Quote
Mounts Kipper Posted July 16, 2023 Posted July 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, Nowack said: Does this mean we can finally get some of that chlorinated chicken we were promised. Nope, that was a lie by remainers. Quote
gonzo Posted July 16, 2023 Posted July 16, 2023 20 minutes ago, Nowack said: Does this mean we can finally get some of that chlorinated chicken we were promised. No but we can still keep buying palm oil which is decimating forests. Quote
globaldiver Posted July 16, 2023 Posted July 16, 2023 25 minutes ago, Spider said: Even with some changes to the trading arrangements with other countries, the gains from the expanded accord is expected to be fairly small - around 0.08% of GDP over 10 years, according to the government's best stab at an estimate. Even so, by contrast, leaving the EU, the government's independent forecasters reckon, will have reduced the UK's growth by far more - perhaps 4% of our income. In total, the CPTPP accounted for 8% of UK exports in 2019 - less than we sold to Germany. Swallowed whole Quote
Spider Posted July 16, 2023 Posted July 16, 2023 7 minutes ago, globaldiver said: Swallowed whole “…now tell them we’ve got a trade deal that might be worth 0.08% in 2033” Quote
Farrelli Posted July 16, 2023 Posted July 16, 2023 How will this trade deal affect our food standards and UK farming ? Also, importing food from thousands of miles away rather than across the channel. How does that impact on sustainability and becoming carbon neutral? On the face of it I can’t see the benefits for UK consumers, farmers or our ability to meet climate change targets. Quote
Not in Crawley Posted July 16, 2023 Posted July 16, 2023 2 hours ago, Spider said: Secretary General of NATO is a diplomatic role and of the last 8 only 1 has had any military experience. What the secretary general does have is a team of senior military advisors who are all vastly experience generals and leaders. the primary role of nato is deterrence and diplomacy, seeking to avoid conflict wherever possible which is usually best left to diplomats rather than fighters. But don’t let any of this get in the way of your well established misogyny 🥰 I'm just reading a book called Abyss about the Cuban Missile Crisis. If JFK had listened to the top brass with 'military corsing through their veins' we wouldn't currently have a bleedin' planet. Quote
Not in Crawley Posted July 16, 2023 Posted July 16, 2023 11 minutes ago, Farrelli said: How will this trade deal affect our food standards and UK farming ? Also, importing food from thousands of miles away rather than across the channel. How does that impact on sustainability and becoming carbon neutral? On the face of it I can’t see the benefits for UK consumers, farmers or our ability to meet climate change targets. Just forget that and remember in 10 years it'll give us less than 1% of our GDP. The land if milk and honey indeed. Also, China and the US aren't joining anytime soon. Its one thing Trump and Biden actually agree on. Quote
tomski Posted July 16, 2023 Posted July 16, 2023 To be fair. While it’s a shit win. It is a win, I’ll take this type of win over continued decline. Quote
gonzo Posted July 16, 2023 Posted July 16, 2023 If only were in some kind of trading bloc with already established trade deals with such countries Quote
Farrelli Posted July 16, 2023 Posted July 16, 2023 13 minutes ago, tomski said: To be fair. While it’s a shit win. It is a win, I’ll take this type of win over continued decline. It’s not a win if it prevents our farmers being competitive and lowers our food standards. Quote
Spider Posted July 16, 2023 Posted July 16, 2023 A wins a win But let’s not pretend this is anything other than a 1-0 pre season friendly against Radcliffe Im not expecting to be exporting to China anytime soon Quote
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