Politics

[Farrelli]

49 minutes ago, Ani said:

Farage and Piers Morgan talking over each other and everyone else. 

Trump fan club

[only1swanny]

With this extra tax on private schools (adding VAT to the fee's, as education is now a luxury item allegedly), will that also apply to all these Tuition places that have cropped up?

Or is it only when Labour can picture a rich person.. 

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

7 minutes ago, only1swanny said:

With this extra tax on private schools (adding VAT to the fee's, as education is now a luxury item allegedly), will that also apply to all these Tuition places that have cropped up?

Or is it only when Labour can picture a rich person.. 

Quite apart from the merits of the policy itself, is it really a priority for anyone?

[only1swanny]

1 minute ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

Quite apart from the merits of the policy itself, is it really a priority for anyone?

Labour have deemed it a priority, I'm ex-private school and find it appalling that Labour are doing all they can to try and get them shut down.. Considering a large amount of MP's were privately educated. 

I'm just watching the education policies and wondering what magic wand they are going to wave next..

[mickbrown]

7 minutes ago, only1swanny said:

With this extra tax on private schools (adding VAT to the fee's, as education is now a luxury item allegedly), will that also apply to all these Tuition places that have cropped up?

Or is it only when Labour can picture a rich person.. 

VAT isn’t just paid on luxury items.
 

Why should private schools not pay VAT?
 

 

[mickbrown]

3 minutes ago, only1swanny said:

Labour have deemed it a priority, I'm ex-private school and find it appalling that Labour are doing all they can to try and get them shut down.. Considering a large amount of MP's were privately educated. 

I'm just watching the education policies and wondering what magic wand they are going to wave next..

They aren’t shutting them down. They are making them pay VAT like every other business in the country   

7% of the population are privately educated. Why should the other 93% subsidise it?
 

Fuck that. 

[Winchester White]

Not sure why extra tuition or private education should be exempt from VAT.

[Not in Crawley]

5 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

VAT isn’t just paid on luxury items.
 

Why should private schools not pay VAT?
 

 

Exactly- had the same discussion with my co director. She's saying then we'll flood the state schools - good!

She's just had a million quid make over to her Oxfordshire house as well.

If they can pay, they should.

[mickbrown]

2 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

Exactly- had the same discussion with my co director. She's saying then we'll flood the state schools - good!

She's just had a million quid make over to her Oxfordshire house as well.

If they can pay, they should.

I bet she doesn’t send her kids to a state school. 

[Not in Crawley]

Having said that the amount of people who move into Kent to get grammar state school education is worrying - pushes up house prices for locals.

Maybe just make state school a bit better, revolutionary thinking I know.

[MancWanderer]

3 hours ago, Cheese said:

Fucking astonishing how Farage keeps getting a platform. How do they justify it?

If I was to be bothered being astonished/outraged/bothered it would be why they give that cunt Morgan a platform

Farage is current no matter what folk think. Put him out there. 

Morgan was only current when he was insider trading and tapping folks’ phones. Massive irrelevant cunt in the world of politics. And any other arena he decides to step into

[Not in Crawley]

Just now, mickbrown said:

I bet she doesn’t send her kids to a state school. 

Of course not, a minor public school in Oxford. Sweating on the extra fees whilst paying out for renovations that only a tiny fraction of the country can afford.

She's lovely but can't see the irony in her argument at all.

 

[mickbrown]

Just now, Not in Crawley said:

Of course not, a minor public school in Oxford. Sweating on the extra fees whilst paying out for renovations that only a tiny fraction of the country can afford.

She's lovely but can't see the irony in her argument at all.

 

She sounds like a twat and you should get all northern on her arse. 

[Not in Crawley]

17 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

Quite apart from the merits of the policy itself, is it really a priority for anyone?

For those who want the Tories out but are quite well off thank you, it really is amongst my group.

[Not in Crawley]

Just now, mickbrown said:

She sounds like a twat and you should get all northern on her arse. 

She's not, but like a lot of wealthy southern liberals she's protectionist for her kids - she's also South African so ill give her a bit of leeway with the British school system.

Also she's a lesbo so going near her arse is a no no.

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

18 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

For those who want the Tories out but are quite well off thank you, it really is amongst my group.

Furry muff

[Ani]

People want to pay for Private schools because they are 'better' than state schools. But this applies to the range of facilities at the school , so first link below shows Private schools combined have  more swimming  pools than all state schools combined, which if the 7% figure quoted above is right means that 14 times more people attend state school but have lest facilities. 5 hours a week at Private schools dedicated to sport compared to 2 at State School 

The second link is to the 73 schools in the country that have an equestrian department, basically where you can bring your horse to school. I have not checked which are Private but guessing will be nearly all. 
 

So basically schools have been allowed to register as charities to avoid VAT, the fees they have been taking in have not only allowed them to offer 'better' education but they have built other facilities that have very little to do with education. The final link of best boarding schools for golf ! Does anyone really think the cost of running these facilities should be VAT free when state schools are falling down ? 

https://schoolsweek.co.uk/sport-takes-up-more-time-in-independent-schools/

https://www.equestrianindex.com/services/education/schools-with-equestrian-facilities-or-teams

https://www.independenteducationconsultants.co.uk/boarding-school-for-golf

 

[bolty58]

4 hours ago, MancWanderer said:

If I was to be bothered being astonished/outraged/bothered it would be why they give that cunt Morgan a platform

Farage is current no matter what folk think. Put him out there. 

Morgan was only current when he was insider trading and tapping folks’ phones. Massive irrelevant cunt in the world of politics. And any other arena he decides to step into

The question you responded to speaks volumes. His types want to close down all opposition and debate. That's what the Gestapo. KGB and the Stasi did.

Farage is the one politician who is not afraid to speak his mind and won't be tethered by wokism, PC or whatever you want to label all of that pathetic bollocks. Appeals to many and is the perfect reason why we should switch to PR instead of first past the post. The duopoly would never vote for it though.

The other bloke is simply a shock jock.

[Not in Crawley]

7 hours ago, Ani said:

People want to pay for Private schools because they are 'better' than state schools. But this applies to the range of facilities at the school , so first link below shows Private schools combined have  more swimming  pools than all state schools combined, which if the 7% figure quoted above is right means that 14 times more people attend state school but have lest facilities. 5 hours a week at Private schools dedicated to sport compared to 2 at State School 

The second link is to the 73 schools in the country that have an equestrian department, basically where you can bring your horse to school. I have not checked which are Private but guessing will be nearly all. 
 

So basically schools have been allowed to register as charities to avoid VAT, the fees they have been taking in have not only allowed them to offer 'better' education but they have built other facilities that have very little to do with education. The final link of best boarding schools for golf ! Does anyone really think the cost of running these facilities should be VAT free when state schools are falling down ? 

https://schoolsweek.co.uk/sport-takes-up-more-time-in-independent-schools/

https://www.equestrianindex.com/services/education/schools-with-equestrian-facilities-or-teams

https://www.independenteducationconsultants.co.uk/boarding-school-for-golf

 

Indeed, it's no surprise we have so many 'posh- actors who went to private school. Many of these schools have proper small and well appointed theatres within their facilities. Eton has a couple I believe.

[Not in Crawley]

3 hours ago, bolty58 said:

The question you responded to speaks volumes. His types want to close down all opposition and debate. That's what the Gestapo. KGB and the Stasi did.

Farage is the one politician who is not afraid to speak his mind and won't be tethered by wokism, PC or whatever you want to label all of that pathetic bollocks. Appeals to many and is the perfect reason why we should switch to PR instead of first past the post. The duopoly would never vote for it though.

The other bloke is simply a shock jock.

Again, Bolty misses the point.

Firstly, he's representing a party/Private pressure group he's not standing for, so politican is currently a huge stretch. 

Secondly, no one is saying reform shouldn't have a platform, but Tice has been on recently already and it seems undue weighting towards a fringe party when others struggle to get media coverage.

 

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

It's good to see the Labour Party getting rid of some of the worst of its cohort before the election

[Cheese]

5 hours ago, bolty58 said:

The question you responded to speaks volumes. His types want to close down all opposition and debate. That's what the Gestapo. KGB and the Stasi did.

Farage is the one politician who is not afraid to speak his mind and won't be tethered by wokism, PC or whatever you want to label all of that pathetic bollocks. Appeals to many and is the perfect reason why we should switch to PR instead of first past the post. The duopoly would never vote for it though.

The other bloke is simply a shock jock.

I don't want to "close down all opposition and debate" in the slightest. The ReformUK Company haven't won a single seat in the 5 years since it was founded, and Farage isn't even standing, so the fact he gets almost daily coverage on the BBC is ridiculous.

[only1swanny]

33 minutes ago, Cheese said:

I don't want to "close down all opposition and debate" in the slightest. The ReformUK Company haven't won a single seat in the 5 years since it was founded, and Farage isn't even standing, so the fact he gets almost daily coverage on the BBC is ridiculous.

glorified political commentator? 

He is asking questions and making statements that joe public are thinking though, and we do need that. 

I'm a staunch conservative voter and even I've no idea where to vote now as I can't agree with half the crap they have done over their tenure. Likewise I wouldn't vote labour as I disagree with most of their policies.. 

In my eyes all he's doing is making it clear that neither party has it right. 

[Cheese]

13 minutes ago, only1swanny said:

glorified political commentator? 

He is asking questions and making statements that joe public are thinking though, and we do need that. 

I'm a staunch conservative voter and even I've no idea where to vote now as I can't agree with half the crap they have done over their tenure. Likewise I wouldn't vote labour as I disagree with most of their policies.. 

In my eyes all he's doing is making it clear that neither party has it right. 

Vote for his political company then. 🤷‍♂️

The Green Party have 812 council seats compared to Reform UK's 9, yet barely get a whisper on the BBC. It's bizarre.

[Farrelli]

Farage is a one trick pony. Brexit has been terrible for UK business and there has been no discernible benefit to immigration. Meanwhile he is pals with Trump. Great judge of character 😂He belongs in the bin with Liz Truss.