bolty58 Posted November 1, 2017 Author Posted November 1, 2017 Some of the allegations made against some tories could be damaging, not know for arty types are the tories The ones against Fallon are laughable - especially taking into account the words of the so called 'victim':- https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4807422/julia-hartley-brewer-jokes-her-knees-are-still-intact-after-michael-fallon-admits-touching-up-the-journalist/ No doubt these witch hunts will continue and it will soon be something else that a scurrilous and salacious media are feeding to the faux outraged masses. Hopefully common sense will prevail otherwise we will end up in such a world of pain with the justice system being completely swamped with 'cases' which should never have been raised (and will be counter productive in delaying or stifling cases which should be played out in court). Julia Harley Brewer should be applauded for her stance on this and before you know who comes on here spouting his holier than thou bollocks, yes - I would wager every one of us on here would be happy to see Weinstein, Saville (if he was still alive), Bill Clinton and any other fucker who has abused a position of power to satisfy their deviant cravings strung up by the bollocks. Quote
only1swanny Posted November 1, 2017 Posted November 1, 2017 Looking at the list in the sun. One of the sex pests... "impregnated a female aid and made her have an abortion, relationships with other staff..." Hardly a pest.. a git over the abortion thing, but hardly anything that doesn't happen up and down the country. Quote
Casino Posted November 1, 2017 Posted November 1, 2017 aye theres one all over radio 2, this morning dear me i can see his wife being a bit grumpy, but fcuking hell and JHB could tell me to keep my hands to myself all day long Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted November 1, 2017 Posted November 1, 2017 Were in danger of being swamped by all this. And yet on the opposite side, a chap on radio five yesterday talking about the pitfalls of tinder, and the freely available sex. No 'chase' or effort, etc. For some its an addiction and apparently blokes are detoxing from it! Quote
madthatter Posted November 1, 2017 Posted November 1, 2017 Were in danger of being swamped by all this. And yet on the opposite side, a chap on radio five yesterday talking about the pitfalls of tinder, and the freely available sex. No 'chase' or effort, etc. For some its an addiction and apparently blokes are detoxing from it! Reminds me of that scene in Bottom where Rich's after a shag and goes on about offering a service to unfulfilled housewives "Nah, I don't feel like dong it tonight, Love, the snookers on . . ." "I could be filling in for them . . . providing a service!" Quote
Zico Posted November 1, 2017 Posted November 1, 2017 https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4807422/julia-hartley-brewer-jokes-her-knees-are-still-intact-after-michael-fallon-admits-touching-up-the-journalist/ they need to get a grip by first being very clear about what is, and isn't acceptable there's some stuff in there that equates to fuck all, e.g. - takes his personal trainer to the cinema - likes to have intercourse with men who are wearing women's perfume - affair - video exists of 3 males urinating on him surely the only ones that should be looked into are the inappropriate behaviour ones, where people are being touched who don't want to be touched the rest looks like consensual shagging with fetishes chucked in, nowt wrong with that I do like how one likes "handsy" so much he's nicknamed "copperfeel" Quote
Youri McAnespie Posted November 1, 2017 Posted November 1, 2017 Yeah, but the one being pissed upon was sat in the Speaker's Chair when it happened - there were also a group of blokes stood around watching and filming and palpating their cocks through their trousers. Quote
madthatter Posted November 1, 2017 Posted November 1, 2017 (edited) they need to get a grip by first being very clear about what is, and isn't acceptable there's some stuff in there that equates to fuck all, e.g. - takes his personal trainer to the cinema - likes to have intercourse with men who are wearing women's perfume - affair - video exists of 3 males urinating on him surely the only ones that should be looked into are the inappropriate behaviour ones, where people are being touched who don't want to be touched the rest looks like consensual shagging with fetishes chucked in, nowt wrong with that I do like how one likes "handsy" so much he's nicknamed "copperfeel" Like you said yesterday it's a bit of bandwagon. I would imagine (hope) only actual inappropriate or abusive reports are taken seriously. Bonking your secretary hardly makes you a rapist or whatever - not exactly professional, mind. I'd even say those who 'bandwagon' may potentially harm the genuine cases that deserve looking into? Edited November 1, 2017 by madthatter Quote
Ani Posted November 1, 2017 Posted November 1, 2017 well, no, me neither unless I was a fruity broadway actor having a party, and I reckon you'd find plenty 14 year sexually active gays who are up for it not that that alone excuses it but end of the day: underage lad goes to party, hangs around in hosts bedroom for a bit, gets a come on, turns it down, leaves it's a bit of a non event for me, but many people seem to want to a make a lot of it sex pest is the new racist Man tries to fuck a 14 year old boy but does not force the boy does not make it a non event for. I get as far as tries to fuck a 14 year old boy and had him down as a cunt. He also can not remember it happening but if I was accused of that my reaction would be !fuck off i woud never do that' . He just can not remember so it might have happened so he is not surprised he was trying to fuck a young kid. Just because in his circle behaviour like that seemingly ok does not mean anyone else should be anything other than disgusted by it. Quote
madthatter Posted November 1, 2017 Posted November 1, 2017 Man tries to fuck a 14 year old boy but does not force the boy does not make it a non event for. I get as far as tries to fuck a 14 year old boy and had him down as a cunt. He also can not remember it happening but if I was accused of that my reaction would be !fuck off i woud never do that' . He just can not remember so it might have happened so he is not surprised he was trying to fuck a young kid. Just because in his circle behaviour like that seemingly ok does not mean anyone else should be anything other than disgusted by it. That post reminded me of this I think i get Zico's point; and fwiw it doesn't disgust me. Disappoints would be a better word but had he taken it any further, and especially had the lad not consented, then yes, cut his balls off and feed them to him. The age of consent is and always will be a shifting morality Quote
Ani Posted November 1, 2017 Posted November 1, 2017 That post reminded me of this I think i get Zico's point; and fwiw it doesn't disgust me. Disappoints would be a better word but had he taken it any further, and especially had the lad not consented, then yes, cut his balls off and feed them to him. The age of consent is and always will be a shifting morality Especially? Quote
tomski Posted November 1, 2017 Posted November 1, 2017 Agree with Ani. Lots of things change in context over time but noncing kids isn't one of them. If he has done ought, deserves what's coming. If not then hopefully it all gets sorted Quote
madthatter Posted November 1, 2017 Posted November 1, 2017 Especially? ? Agree with Ani. Lots of things change in context over time but noncing kids isn't one of them. If he has done ought, deserves what's coming. If not then hopefully it all gets sorted Agree 100% The first bit, although it's a separate point from the current shenanigans, is that where or when someone is a 'kid' changes. we all knew lasses at school who were mature at a similar age as were many lads. Biologically speaking it could be fine. Where we place our morality changes, like fashion. Quote
kent_white Posted November 1, 2017 Posted November 1, 2017 Michael Fallon has resigned. Surely there must be more to come out than him touching someone's knee? Quote
Not in Crawley Posted November 1, 2017 Posted November 1, 2017 The ones against Fallon are laughable - especially taking into account the words of the so called 'victim':- https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4807422/julia-hartley-brewer-jokes-her-knees-are-still-intact-after-michael-fallon-admits-touching-up-the-journalist/ No doubt these witch hunts will continue and it will soon be something else that a scurrilous and salacious media are feeding to the faux outraged masses. Hopefully common sense will prevail otherwise we will end up in such a world of pain with the justice system being completely swamped with 'cases' which should never have been raised (and will be counter productive in delaying or stifling cases which should be played out in court). Julia Harley Brewer should be applauded for her stance on this and before you know who comes on here spouting his holier than thou bollocks, yes - I would wager every one of us on here would be happy to see Weinstein, Saville (if he was still alive), Bill Clinton and any other fucker who has abused a position of power to satisfy their deviant cravings strung up by the bollocks. Yawn. As ever you miss the point by a country fucking mile. Quote
Ani Posted November 1, 2017 Posted November 1, 2017 ? Agree 100% The first bit, although it's a separate point from the current shenanigans, is that where or when someone is a 'kid' changes. we all knew lasses at school who were mature at a similar age as were many lads. Biologically speaking it could be fine. Where we place our morality changes, like fashion. You said he would deserve to get done especially if the kid did not consent. Not sure what role consent plays in child sex cases. Quote
madthatter Posted November 1, 2017 Posted November 1, 2017 You said he would deserve to get done especially if the kid did not consent. Not sure what role consent plays in child sex cases. Well legally it doesn't; but I was saying that him making a pass and then accepting the rebuff is not disgusting to me given the circumstances, which Zico alludes to. Had he, say, been grooming him as a youth coach for a time before said pass was made on a lift home, then that's a bit different, imo. Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted November 1, 2017 Posted November 1, 2017 Michael Fallon has resigned. Surely there must be more to come out than him touching someone's knee? Perhaps he touched it with his cock? Quote
Ani Posted November 1, 2017 Posted November 1, 2017 Well legally it doesn't; but I was saying that him making a pass and then accepting the rebuff is not disgusting to me given the circumstances, which Zico alludes to. Had he, say, been grooming him as a youth coach for a time before said pass was made on a lift home, then that's a bit different, imo. But if the 14 year had either consented or was too afraid to say no....... Quote
e2e4 Posted November 1, 2017 Posted November 1, 2017 The kid from stand by me going "its not Michael Jackson, its [these], I told them this years ago " Sounds like nwo type stuff, or summat. Quote
Not in Crawley Posted November 1, 2017 Posted November 1, 2017 Well legally it doesn't; but I was saying that him making a pass and then accepting the rebuff is not disgusting to me given the circumstances, which Zico alludes to. Had he, say, been grooming him as a youth coach for a time before said pass was made on a lift home, then that's a bit different, imo. So making a pass at any 14 yr old as long as you accept you might be rebuffed is acceptable? Did you say you worked as a teacher? Quote
gonzo Posted November 1, 2017 Posted November 1, 2017 Be interesting to the difference in stance on 14 year old girls actively seeking sexual advances in kebab shops. Quote
tomski Posted November 1, 2017 Posted November 1, 2017 ? Agree 100% The first bit, although it's a separate point from the current shenanigans, is that where or when someone is a 'kid' changes. we all knew lasses at school who were mature at a similar age as were many lads. Biologically speaking it could be fine. Where we place our morality changes, like fashion. Aye it's a point I get. I for one hope it doesn't change anytime soon as it won't increase that age range with a similar age range, I'd suspect it would be young girls with older fellas which again imo benefits nobody Quote
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